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AT&T Purchases FLO Spectrum from Qualcomm

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Tmobile should have been all over this

ygbhen

Dec 20, 2010, 1:12 PM
Looks like TMobile let a perfect opportunity slip by them to obtain the spectrum needed for their 4th generation network. HSPA+ is cool but from my personal experience it has been very unreliable even in great coverage areas. Plus the benefits from LTE and WiMax are just too numerous to point out. Oh well, at least my phone bill will be pretty reasonable 🤨
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tmorep03

Dec 20, 2010, 2:40 PM
well the government is going to be auctioning off some 700mhz in july soo they should be all over that, maybe they thought they would get it cheaper then.
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WiWavelength

Dec 20, 2010, 4:04 PM
tmorep03 said:
well the government is going to be auctioning off some 700mhz in july soo they should be all over that, maybe they thought they would get it cheaper then.


Nope, not even close, unless North Dakota & Puerto Rico are central to T-Mobile's 4G strategy.

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/201 ... »

AJ
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tmorep03

Dec 20, 2010, 4:56 PM
hey you never know mayb they want to improve coverage in north dakota
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Azeron

Dec 20, 2010, 10:38 PM
That would certainly be a departure from their past strategy.
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Azeron

Dec 20, 2010, 9:42 PM
T-Mobile has allowed merger opportunities to slip through their fingers over the years. What is particularly annoying is their insistence on only using 1900mHz spectrum for the longest time and NOW look at them dependent upon that bastardized AWS spectrum for 3G...err...pseudo 4g and they still obtained some 850mHz from SunCom (East) along the way.
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ygbhen

Dec 20, 2010, 11:00 PM
Tmobile should have been all over this one. This would have gave them spectrum to cover all the major metro areas and then some. As for waiting for the next auction, do you think VZ and ATT are going to sit on the sidelines? Not so, they are going to bring their parent companies big wallets and gobble up just about every attractive option as usual. It just does not make sense to me at all. HSPA+ is decent if you are in a stable area but the cost benefits and capacity benefits for moving to LTE far outweigh and outperform what they have now.
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Azeron

Dec 21, 2010, 12:13 AM
I'm not sure why this response is directed at me. I never disagreed with your initial posting. I merely pointed out that T-Mobile has always been missing when opportunities such as this one have presented themselves. This comes as no surprise. Their leadership is quite dull.
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WiWavelength

Dec 21, 2010, 12:18 PM
ygbhen said:
Tmobile should have been all over this one. This would have gave them spectrum to cover all the major metro areas and then some.


No. Unless T-Mobile were to deploy TDD LTE (while nearly all other carriers deploy FDD LTE), the Lower 700 MHz D & E licenses that AT&T is acquiring from Qualcomm would be worthless to T-Mobile. To understand, view the Lower 700 MHz band plan:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/bandplans/700l ... »

The Lower 700 MHz D & E blocks are unpaired. Compare them to the Lower 700 MHz A, B, and C blocks -- note how those blocks consist of paired spectrum.

In paired spectrum, the uplink (mobile -> base station) operates in the lower frequency half of the block...
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Azeron

Dec 21, 2010, 1:14 PM
Uh...let me get my dictionary out and I'll get back to you. It is always good to have you around. Were you vacationing on Howards Forums by chance?
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WiWavelength

Dec 21, 2010, 3:40 PM
Azeron said:
Uh...let me get my dictionary out and I'll get back to you. It is always good to have you around. Were you vacationing on Howards Forums by chance?


More accurately, the other way around. I was very active at HowardForums until two or three years ago. But the ill informed, juvenile arguments and mindless carrier cheerleading tend to raise my ire a bit too much. So, I try to temper my forum participation in general.

To provide a simple analogy to my previous post, the spectrum that AT&T is buying from Qualcomm is akin to a one lane road. AT&T already owns a two lane highway, so AT&T can add that extra lane to one side of its highway for greater capacity. T-Mobile does not own a two lan...
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Azeron

Dec 21, 2010, 11:55 PM
Nice. I asked about Howards Forum because a lot of posters over there appear to be very deep in the wireless game. Miles and miles deep...
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CellStudent

Dec 23, 2010, 12:58 AM
WiWavelength said:
To provide a simple analogy to my previous post, the spectrum that AT&T is buying from Qualcomm is akin to a one lane road. AT&T already owns a two lane highway, so AT&T can add that extra lane to one side of its highway for greater capacity. T-Mobile does not own a two lane highway (at least not in the Lower 700 MHz band), so the one lane road would not help T-Mobile.


That's quite possibly the best "bringing it to the masses" dumb-down I've ever seen. Great analogy.

However, would it really be impossible for T-mobile to run FDD using their (currently 2G) PCS spectrum for the uplink and do the downlink in the unpaired 700 MHz bands?

I know that could cause some consumer confus...
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