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Hmmm...

tjobrien21

Dec 6, 2010, 12:48 PM
I think I'll pass, two main reasons:

1. Samsung's recent (pseudo)handling of their GPS issues doesn't make them look that great.

2. When I bought an N1, I ended up with problems with 3G switching to Edge and back, and calls dropping. Google and T-Mobile just pointed the finger at each other about where the problem was. I was stuck in the middle with a $530 phone that didn't work as well as my old RAZR.

I absolutely LOVE Android, and still use it. It just seems that the only way to ensure good support is for the phone to come from the carrier. Hopefully that'll be the case this time.
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SublimeDavid

Dec 6, 2010, 12:51 PM
So basically you're saying it's the carriers fault that the manufacturer came up with a phone that could not utilize the network properly when other Android phones were doing just fine at the time... 😳
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CellStudent

Dec 6, 2010, 1:05 PM
SublimeDavid said:
So basically you're saying it's the carriers fault that the manufacturer came up with a phone that could not utilize the network properly when other Android phones were doing just fine at the time... 😳


No, he's saying the carrier, hardware maker and software maker were both unable to fix a major problem with the device and unwilling to give a straight answer as to why the problem existed.
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SublimeDavid

Dec 6, 2010, 5:31 PM
do you guys forget that tmobile never officially carried the nexus as its own? it was all controlled by google and htc.. so how is that tmobiles fault?
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Iknownothing

Dec 6, 2010, 8:39 PM
Good God, reading comprehension.....

What he's saying is that BECAUSE tmo never officially carried the phone it never received any carrier support. And because it did not receive that support the software and hardware manufacturer were able to just point fingers at each other. He's blaming Google and HTC while saying that the only way for the end user to make sure he avoids that problem is to buy a phone directly supported by a carrier... so that way there is a direct chain of accountability.
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Omagus

Dec 6, 2010, 5:50 PM
CellStudent said:
No, he's saying the carrier, hardware maker and software maker were both unable to fix a major problem with the device and unwilling to give a straight answer as to why the problem existed.


Which is a fair point except: 1) Samsung was not the hardware manufacturer of the Nexus One, HTC was; and 2) the Nexus One was not carried through T-Mobile.

Those are two pretty significant differences.
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tjobrien21

Dec 6, 2010, 1:08 PM
Nope. I'm saying, regardless of whose fault it was, that buying a phone from one entity and using it on the network of another ended badly for me. I spent $530 and ended up with a phone that didn't work well and couldn't get any meaningful help.

Getting rid of the N1 and going with a carrier-supplied phone fixed all problems - and when one did pop up, it was fixed immediately.

Basically, when your hardware and service come from the same company, there's no "weasel" room. If there's a problem and it's the network, they fix it. If it's your new phone, they fix it.

The point of my post was be careful; if your Nexus phone doesn't work well once you get it, you may or may not be able to get help. That's what happened to me, and it was...
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Black_Beard

Dec 6, 2010, 1:11 PM
1: you have a buyers remorse period

2: The 3g/edge issue with the nexus one got fixed
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tjobrien21

Dec 6, 2010, 2:54 PM
Yep. I missed the "remorse" period, I didn't mess with the phone enough at first to notice the problems, and where I worked the signal was always questionable anyway.

And I got rid of it after it seemed like they were never going to fix the 3G issue. In fact, I'm not sure they did, I remember seeing articles that they were going to stop trying. For instance:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/google-no-longer- ... »

http://phandroid.com/2010/04/22/google-halts-develop ... »
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Black_Beard

Dec 6, 2010, 4:19 PM
I have three friend with the N1 that i work with and there saying its fixed too. Go look over at xda-developers. Id post links but im at work....which is limited to phonescoop.
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tjobrien21

Dec 6, 2010, 5:06 PM
Excellent - I don't have mine anymore, but I have a buddy who is still having problems. I'll let him know to check that out! 🙂 Thanks!
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