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Wimax vs Hspa+

DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2010, 6:01 PM
On paper wimax is superior to hspa+. Wimax has the highest max speeds even tops Lte!

Wimax 128mbs down 56mbs up
Lte: 100mbs down 50mbs up
Hspa+ 56mbs down 22mbs up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax#Comparison »

Wimax has lower overhead cost to mantain then hspa+ and takes up less space to build then a 3g cell cite. Hspa+ is expensive and not a cost effective solution in the long term its more of a patch or temporary fix by tmobile until better technology comes along! Which is why att is planning a lte network because they know hspa+ is a short term solution! Tmobile's network will become very expensive to operate and customers will be left with the bill. Notice how both att and tmobile have horrible data plans. Soon they will ne...
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justfinethanku

Oct 28, 2010, 6:25 PM
On paper wimax is superior to hspa+.


On paper, wait, do I actually need to argue this?

Hspa+ is expensive and not a cost effective solution in the long term


HSPA+ is not quite as expensive as you make it out to be, and certainly not the money pit WiMax has PROVEN to be. Anyone with a 3G enabled phone on T-Mobile gains an advantage in speed with HSPA+ weather it's compatible with the higher (up to 21MBS real-time) speeds or not. They are able to modify current 3G sites saving TONS of money and maintenance is the same as a 3G cell.

Notice how both att and tmobile have horrible data plans


Really now?

AT&T has a slightly more budget-minded pricing sc...
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SublimeDavid

Oct 28, 2010, 7:08 PM
lol.....DiamondPro you need to read the whole 4g post we did....
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DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2010, 9:47 PM
We? ๐Ÿคฃ
I knew justfinethanku couldn't post that response to me all by himself lmao! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Good job! ๐Ÿ˜‰
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justfinethanku

Oct 29, 2010, 11:11 AM
I think he's talking about Phonescoop.
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DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2010, 9:35 PM
[quote]HSPA+ is not quite as expensive as you make it out to be, and certainly not the money pit WiMax has PROVEN to be.[/quote]

Yes it is! hspa+ cost 450$ per new subscriber compared to 350$ Lte per new subscriber!

http://www.tmcnet.com/voip/features/articles/108474- ... »
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DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2010, 9:42 PM
Anyone with a 3G enabled phone on T-Mobile gains an advantage in speed with HSPA+ weather it's compatible with the higher (up to 21MBS real-time) speeds or not.


lmao t mobile for a long time didn't even have 3g enable devices. (up to 21mbps real time) ๐Ÿคฃ that is not tmobiles real world speeds!

Those are those on paper speeds you said you didn't need to argue but yet u are quoting them like the sheep tmobile is trying to make u out to be. ๐Ÿคฃ Go to tmobile website and u will see its theoretical not real world! ๐Ÿ˜‰

They are able to modify current 3G sites saving TONS of money and maintenance is the same as a 3G cell.


Thats because tmobile is cheap! Ever wonder why tmobil...
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ells2187

Oct 29, 2010, 7:34 AM
no negativity here diamond as a fellow sprint lover, i just dont take it to the degree you do. its quite simple actually...
100mps down=4G anything else, by definition is not. is Wimax faster than 3G? yes. is it 4G speeds? no.
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justfinethanku

Oct 29, 2010, 11:10 AM
believe it or not... I love Sprint too.
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DiamondPro

Oct 29, 2010, 9:13 PM
Im sorry I miss judge u... Especially since your profile says Sprint who? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

And you are trying to take tmobile into the the 3rd rank among US carriers moving Sprint into number 4
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floex831

Oct 30, 2010, 1:30 PM
Technically, they're right HSPA+ and LTE are technically 3.5G technologies. So "real 4G" as horrible as it sounds, it's correct.
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CellStudent

Oct 28, 2010, 8:21 PM

On paper wimax is superior to hspa+. Wimax has the highest max speeds even tops Lte!
Irrelevant. Paper is cheap. And usually overstated to woo the investors.

Wimax has lower overhead cost to mantain then hspa+ and takes up less space to build then a 3g cell cite.
Irrelevant AND wrong. AWS bands are superior to 2.5 GHz bands for radio wave propagation. They both suck, but AWS is the prettier pig.

Hspa+ is expensive and not a cost effective solution in the long term its more of a patch or temporary fix by tmobile until better technology comes along!
Irrelevant the price or long term viability of the product has NO IMPACT on HSPA+ Mbps performance.

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CellStudent

Oct 28, 2010, 8:33 PM
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=37 ... »

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/04/data-speed-show ... »

http://gigaom.com/mobile/t-mobile-webconnect-rocket- ... »

HSPA+ easily matches the 3-6 Mbps that Clear/Sprint/Verizon are classifying as 4G-like speeds.

THAT is relevant. The rest of your drivel belongs in internal propaganda memos.
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DiamondPro

Oct 28, 2010, 10:20 PM
Irrelevant. Paper is cheap. And usually overstated to woo the investors.


Im glad you said that because thats exactly what tmobile is doing. Tmobile doesn't go by real world speeds only theoritical which is 21mbps Vs Sprints 70mbps as u can see if Sprint did that the numbers would be much higher then tmobiles! Come on Mr. scientist. ๐Ÿคฃ

Irrelevant the price or long term viability of the product has NO IMPACT on HSPA+ Mbps performance.


When did I say it was only about the mbps? Your argument is a mute point because other factors come into play when comparing the 2 networks. If it was only about the mbps Wimax would win hands down! Do not even considering the amount of bandwidth Spri...
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CellStudent

Oct 29, 2010, 1:36 PM
DiamondPro said:

When did I say it was only about the mbps?


In the original post. Here:

On paper wimax is superior to hspa+. Wimax has the highest max speeds even tops Lte!

Wimax 128mbs down 56mbs up
Lte: 100mbs down 50mbs up
Hspa+ 56mbs down 22mbs up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax#Comparison » รƒโ€šร‚ยป


Excuuuuuuuuuuuuse ME for trying to respond to the question you asked rather than the topic all of us were supposed to presume you meant to speak of when you wrote that out...

I'll get to work right away brushing up on my ESP.

Until then, please try to keep your thought processes at least a little more coherent than... well, I'd better not say it.
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DiamondPro

Oct 29, 2010, 2:24 PM
But that was only the first part of my post. The other points are factors that must be consider for the advancement in the tech which u are trying to omit. Im not changing the subject tmobile only focuses on paper results Sprint is using real world speeds. So on paper tmobile loses and in the real world tmobile loses
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CellStudent

Oct 29, 2010, 9:11 PM
DiamondPro said:
But that was only the first part of my post. The other points are factors that must be consider for the advancement in the tech...



NO. They're not!

They're factors to consider when choosing between Sprint and T-mobile.

Only.

Answer this question for me: How do you think Vodafone's HSPA+ network stacks up against WiMAX?

{DiamondPro goes off on some rant about how it doesn't matter because they're not competitors in the same market.}

Your perception of the basis for this thread is the fundamentally flawed premise that T-mobile IS HSPA+ and that Sprint IS WiMAX and that is simply not the case.

Marketing, business model, pricing plans ...
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ells2187

Oct 29, 2010, 7:38 AM
lol, I like your points but for the love of god. learn a new synonym for irrelevant. i would put you on the same level as the valley girls and the word "like". as in " i was like walking down the down and then i was like omg i forgot my phone!"
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DiamondPro

Oct 29, 2010, 1:58 PM
Lmao thats what I thought when I read it...
But I read in the voice of a robot
Irrelevant. Errrr
Irrelevant. Uhh
Irrelevant!
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
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furyx639

Oct 29, 2010, 4:51 PM
CellStudent said:Irrelevant the price or long term viability of the product has NO IMPACT on HSPA+ Mbps performance.


What price and long term viability does affect is T-Mobile's competitive edge in an industry where they are already in last place.

In terms of customers, they are trailing behind AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. And now, they continue to be behind in reliability, pricing and technology.

So, while HSPA+ may be comparable in the short-term, their decisions right now will influence whether or not they exist in the upcoming years.
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