Motorola and Nokia Agree to License 4G Tech

I've seen that article before. It doesn't matter to what I said.

the band sprint uses is superior for speed, but vastly inferior when it comes to building penetration, efficiency (can't handle as many users at the same time) and tower coverage.

Wimax is great for dense urban areas, but it will be prohibitively expensive to expand past that point. This means wimax will pretty much ALWAYS be a city technology

This is why Clearwire, sprint, etc all clearly keep the option to switch to LTE open.

It can support a lot of users what are u talking about? You just made yourself sound dumb. Its good for dense urban areas (lots of users) but beyond that point expensive. The city's Clear/Sprint covers has lots of 4g users and Clear has people using 4g as there dedicated home internet connection for there home "computers"{laptops and desktops"} which consume way more data then cell phones. I have yet to experience a network outages like all the other carriers on 3g. So 4g can handle the load and has the speeds to back it up. Let see how verizons lte does when they finally decide to join the party. And how much big red is charging by the gb! Till then Ill stick with my UNLIMITED 4G NETWORK! 😎

It's not going to remain unlimited. Both Dan Hesse and Clearwire stated that they're looking at tiered data plans.

It's limited in traffic it can handle per site, which is why it can't work outside of cities. Towers get overloaded too fast, and it's too expensive to put them anywhere where they WONT be constantly near capacity.

If you read any reviews of the network you'd see this. Once the network is up for awhile, speeds slow down signifigantly, and coverage is unpredictable indoors even if you never move (it's great some days, non-existant others.

My brother HAS a clear modem as his primary internet. It works decently for him, and it's cheaper than cable, but it's had a lot more outages than his cellphone has.

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Haha 🤣 that's what u got from that statement? 🙄 Did he say Sprint or Clear will be moving to tier data plans like verizon did? Or roll out tiered data plans like att? No! Did he give a time frame of when these plans would be realesed? 🤨 No! So how did you come to this conclusion? Certainly not from facts. 😉 Please use facts to back up your statements. Until Clearwire releases tiered data plans its UNLIMITED unlike there competitors. And this applies to existing customers as well as new customers it will remain that way until the plans change. Even then those who are already grandfather in or already have the service will get to keep there unlimited access. So now is the best time to buy. 😎

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Please do at least a LITTLE research that you don't get from internal documents before posting again.

Verizon is launching in 38+ markets and 62+ airports. This will cover 110 Million pops at launch.

I can't find recent numbers, but as of July First, Sprint had 44 markets that covered 51 million POPS.
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=6240 »

last time I checked 110>55

We're not talking just number of markets, but where these markets are. Verizon's also very agressive in their rollout, meaning their current 3g footprint will be their 4g footprint in 3 years. Again, the NUMBER of markets only matters if markets all have equal pops, they don't.

What's sprint's rollout plan?

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I'm a Sprint fan, too. I just hate when fans of ANY carrier get all "We" this and "We" that. *Bleep is *Bleeping* insufferable.

Why are you here again? You were almost objective in your first post, but this has quickly degenerated into a troll pissing contest. Re-read your original post and stick with that story. No matter how excellent Wi-Max is or isn't compared to LTE, it will not matter in the grand scheme. Some customers are going to maintain loyalty to their carrier of choice. You certainly can't badger any PhoneScoopers into switching. Live and let live and let's move on.

I'm here to inform my fellow customers from all the rep bs these forums are filled with. Im tired of company paid employees make tons of false statements and posting them all over the forums. Wow really? So your telling me people will walk away from a better product? People are basically sheep and will do whatever there carrier tells them if they are already a customer? Im not trying to badger anyone but the truth needs to be told. If Sprint has good coverage in your area they beat Verizon hands down so do yourself a favor go check and see. 😎

He has. and sprint sucks for him.

I'm glad I have Sprint makes Verizon look like on big rip off. Verizon cripples there phones has poor coverage in the major cites charges extra for navigation, tv, and will have tiered data pricing. Sprint does it all! 😎

Verizon IS a big rip off, but as a truck river I am limited to either them or AT&T. I love to see Sprint make hay though. Don't make me regret cheering for them with all this mud slinging.

Menno said:
the band sprint uses is superior for speed, but vastly inferior when it comes to building penetration, efficiency (can't handle as many users at the same time) and tower coverage.

This is why Clearwire, sprint, etc all clearly keep the option to switch to LTE open.

Not quite true, but close. It doesn't matter if Clearwire moves to LTE, WiMAX 2, 5G, 6G or whatever.

They still have primarily 2.4+ GHz spectrum to deal with, and it's going to have propagation and building penetration problems regardless of what technology they choose to broadcast over those wavelengths.

The only benefit Clearwire would see from moving to LTE would be scale-related cost saving from being able to pur...
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"My bet is they'll dump iDEN and re-purpose those bands to 4G, but it will take them about 10 years to do it."

They never should have acquired it in the first place. I know they gained a lot of spectrum from Nextel, but I will NEVER believe that it was worth all the headaches. I suppose in ten years they'll have bled all those IDEN subscribers away? Nothing beats Direct Connect for what it does though. You will always have companies that refuse to abandon it.

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I know they gained a lot of spectrum from Nextel, but I will NEVER believe that it was worth all the headaches. I suppose in ten years they'll have bled all those IDEN subscribers away? Nothing beats Direct Connect for what it does though. You will always have companies that refuse to abandon it.

True, but there is no reason to believe that iDEN is the only technology capable of Direct Connect features. TDD-LTE should be able to support handset-to-handset, non-cellular communications in any frequency band under the sun.

Once they can get non-iDEN Direct Connect up and running, there is no reason to have an iDEN network at all.