T-Mobile Clears the Air Over HTC G2 Wi-Fi Software Update
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it was available on my Nexus One.. but I decided to get the G2.. and now I don't have tethering.. Flip Mode, I've gotta bad feeling that you may be right on this one. T-Mobile just FML..
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Or until data is no longer unlimited.
If data on handset is unlimited,there should be an extra fee for tethering (especially wifi tethering). If data is limited, there shouldn't be an extra fee.
If data on handset is unlimited,there should be an extra fee for tethering (especially wifi tethering). If data is limited, there shouldn't be an extra fee.
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Now this I can completely agree with. I understand people want their phones to do this without any additional cost, but they aren't the ones running the network or deploying new network equipment to handle the additional traffic. Stop whining or stop using the feature. Or better yet, root your phone (sorry G2 owners) and go nuts with it.
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i know not everyone will agree with me but the way i see it is that i'm already paying for the privilege of internet on the go, i might as well be given a tmobile rocket usb stick instead of just tether permission if im going to pay twice. judging from past tethering experience and using a laptop stick, i doubt speeds differ all that much to justify paying again 🤨
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Because you're NOT already paying for data like that. You're paying for handset data. Handsets won't consume data as fast as a PC can.
Just some examples:
-Hulu
-Netflix/netflix HD optimized for a 10 inch screen
-Torrents, yes a torrent system exists for Android, but it's nowhere near as potent.
-gaming
What you're paying for is handset data because handset data will be (comparatively) a lot less. So tethering either needs to require an additional fee, or have it offered at no cost but only on tiered data plans so that you can use data however you want.
Just some examples:
-Hulu
-Netflix/netflix HD optimized for a 10 inch screen
-Torrents, yes a torrent system exists for Android, but it's nowhere near as potent.
-gaming
What you're paying for is handset data because handset data will be (comparatively) a lot less. So tethering either needs to require an additional fee, or have it offered at no cost but only on tiered data plans so that you can use data however you want.
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ok that's one way to look at it. yet another way to look at it is. say you're a comcast subscriber doing a cable split, direct tv or uverse subscriber. you have 4 televisions in your home. and you're entitled ONE receiver on ONE TV. now you want to move your receiver to another television in the house. hold on now because direct tv says. nope! sorry you must pay an additional $45/month to tether this receiver to another tv you own because this 72'' tv will consume way more pixels and could cause satellite/network congestion. would you be willing to shell out another $45 a month just for using what you're paying for on another tv? people with disposable income who don't care about cost do not realize this and are like "so what, just pay whate...
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Besides that TV bandwidth is limited.
And with TVs:
-You want to go from SD to HD you either pay more per month, or you have to buy/rent a more expensive box
-If you want more than one TV hooked up, again, you have to pay more per month (with some it is more than 2)
-if you want access to premium content, you have to pay more
In your example your going from consuming TV on one device to consuming it on another. with Tethering, you are going from consuming data on a tiny device to consuming data on 2 or more devices, one of which is a lot larger.
To further your TV metaphor, this is like you getting the basic cable package and then demanding all premium channels for free since you're "paying for cable anyway." With tethering y...
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And with TVs:
-You want to go from SD to HD you either pay more per month, or you have to buy/rent a more expensive box
-If you want more than one TV hooked up, again, you have to pay more per month (with some it is more than 2)
-if you want access to premium content, you have to pay more
In your example your going from consuming TV on one device to consuming it on another. with Tethering, you are going from consuming data on a tiny device to consuming data on 2 or more devices, one of which is a lot larger.
To further your TV metaphor, this is like you getting the basic cable package and then demanding all premium channels for free since you're "paying for cable anyway." With tethering y...
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it doesn't matter. the fact stands that paying MORE MONEY for the same service (data) doesn't make you a good Samaritan, it makes a person a sucker with the exception you have 2 smartphones and both need data.
we could go round and round and round but like i said. shelling out more money does not relieve network congestion. bandwidth is an infinite thing. it's not crude oil. what does it matter where the data is being used or what its being used by?
we're not talking about PPV and premium channels. you obviously missed my point which was the simple fact of using whatever you're paying for on another device. what is the difference. i'm not hacking channels or downloading illegal ringtones hacked from tmobile's network. this is just c...
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we could go round and round and round but like i said. shelling out more money does not relieve network congestion. bandwidth is an infinite thing. it's not crude oil. what does it matter where the data is being used or what its being used by?
we're not talking about PPV and premium channels. you obviously missed my point which was the simple fact of using whatever you're paying for on another device. what is the difference. i'm not hacking channels or downloading illegal ringtones hacked from tmobile's network. this is just c...
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The ONLY way your idea would work is if cellular data is data agnostic. The only way carriers would do this is if there were a limit to the amount of data you consumed (or at least tiers) or you paid a heck of a lot more for unlimited tethering and Data plans.
Tethering your phone is NOT using the same data. Bandwidth is Not infinite. It requires a heck of a lot of money to upkeep and the people who consume more of it should have to pay more to do so or EVERYONE'S prices goes up.
You position isn't pro consumer. It's also anti consumer, pro-me. If tethering was included with basic phone internet then internet would be a heck of a lot more than $30 a month for a smartphone because Bandwidth, especially T-Mobile's inefficient HSPA+ ...
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Tethering your phone is NOT using the same data. Bandwidth is Not infinite. It requires a heck of a lot of money to upkeep and the people who consume more of it should have to pay more to do so or EVERYONE'S prices goes up.
You position isn't pro consumer. It's also anti consumer, pro-me. If tethering was included with basic phone internet then internet would be a heck of a lot more than $30 a month for a smartphone because Bandwidth, especially T-Mobile's inefficient HSPA+ ...
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Are you actually serious?
Ok. You have one Tower, you have a single cell. No problem. you add more cells each consuming the exact same amount of bandwidth. The speed of ALL the cells slows down and eventually no additional phones can connect to the tower.
So you add a second tower, and the speed goes up again because people are spread between them. Eventually the cap is hit.
Eventually you have as many towers in an area as you can get and again you reach mass capacity.
Bandwidth is CAPPED. On top of that you have to get the bandwidth to and from the towers, this requires backhaul which is even more expensive than towers are. Before you reach the theoretical cap (max capacity on max number of fiber lines) you reach the fi...
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Ok. You have one Tower, you have a single cell. No problem. you add more cells each consuming the exact same amount of bandwidth. The speed of ALL the cells slows down and eventually no additional phones can connect to the tower.
So you add a second tower, and the speed goes up again because people are spread between them. Eventually the cap is hit.
Eventually you have as many towers in an area as you can get and again you reach mass capacity.
Bandwidth is CAPPED. On top of that you have to get the bandwidth to and from the towers, this requires backhaul which is even more expensive than towers are. Before you reach the theoretical cap (max capacity on max number of fiber lines) you reach the fi...
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you're still not providing any real evidence to refute that bandwidth is infinite. caps are preset limits NOT evidence of the bandwidth well running dry ðŸ¤
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Because BANDWIDTH DOESNT HAVE A WELL.
Bandwidth is a rate of data transfer, throughput, or bit rate; measured in bits per second.
In plain english this means: It's a measure of how much data can be transfered in a single second.
What you're arguing is that in a Corvette, there is no limit to the number of miles per hour because there's always more miles. But that's missing the point. the question isn't how many miles it can go, but how fast.
No matter HOW much data there is, a given device, a given network can still only provide a certain amount of bites per second. That rate DECREASES with the number of users (and with how fast each user is going) until it comes to a standstill and will not accept any more users.
That is a...
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Bandwidth is a rate of data transfer, throughput, or bit rate; measured in bits per second.
In plain english this means: It's a measure of how much data can be transfered in a single second.
What you're arguing is that in a Corvette, there is no limit to the number of miles per hour because there's always more miles. But that's missing the point. the question isn't how many miles it can go, but how fast.
No matter HOW much data there is, a given device, a given network can still only provide a certain amount of bites per second. That rate DECREASES with the number of users (and with how fast each user is going) until it comes to a standstill and will not accept any more users.
That is a...
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I have to agree with menno on this as sad as it is. Internet is not the the same price across the board.if it was T-mobile wouldn't have an 5gb 50.00 a month plan for broadband.
What your saying is you want to only pay 30.00 for unlimited web on the phone plus unlimited web on your laptop? i wish thats how the world worked. T-mobile is one of the coolest companies for tethering. They take a stance of -we don't support it but if you can figure out how to tether it we wont say anything about it.
What other company does that?
What your saying is you want to only pay 30.00 for unlimited web on the phone plus unlimited web on your laptop? i wish thats how the world worked. T-mobile is one of the coolest companies for tethering. They take a stance of -we don't support it but if you can figure out how to tether it we wont say anything about it.
What other company does that?
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to me its like...get a wifi router from best buy. but comcast says you cant use a wifi router on their network without paying $55/month per device. same idea
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