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ajac09

Oct 10, 2010, 6:40 PM
4g is coming up and allows Data + voice at sametime. Why bother investing in this? No phone currently supports it and new phones have to be made to support this new SVDO CDMA. Not worth it waiste of money when your moving past 3g anyway.
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trenen

Oct 10, 2010, 7:00 PM
It will be many years before 4G completely saturates the market. In the mean time, it's good to invest and perfect the current infrastructure. Just because 4G is available, doesn't mean that consumers are going to jump on the bandwagon right away. Besides, since the 3G network will live along the 4G one, wouldn't it be wise for VZW to allow people to seamlessly "talk and surf" at any given time? Doing this also takes away an 'upper-hand' from AT&T.
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ajac09

Oct 10, 2010, 7:05 PM
this isnt just automatically turned on technology they have to uppgrade EACH tower for this to work why bother just upgrade them to 4g
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trenen

Oct 10, 2010, 7:07 PM
I don't know...I guess you should ask the multi-billion $$ company how they will pay for this?
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ajac09

Oct 10, 2010, 7:31 PM
I like to know from them why bother. Theyh ave to do it at each tower why not time the time assets and money and just use it for 4g. This is most likely just a rumor. I can see small cell companies doing it but sprint already said they wont and Verizon probably will to
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Azeron

Oct 12, 2010, 6:24 AM
'Speaking to the Wall Street Journal, Verizon Wireless spokesperson Brian Higgins said that the company is working on a way to alter its CDMA network to allow for surfing the web and making voice calls at the same time. Higgins said, "I think there are fringe cases where something like that could be important. For a vast majority of customers, I don't think it's a terribly important use case." Higgins didn't provide any specifics on how the technology might work nor whether or not it would be backward compatible with older phones.'

Maybe someone should tell the VZW spokesmen to shut his pie hole?
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Jayshmay

Oct 10, 2010, 11:51 PM
Many years away til LTE saturates the market, you say?

Well April of 2012 doesn't seem like "many" years away to me.

Verizon ains to cover 75%of the country by April 2012

http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-android-leaked ... »
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ajac09

Oct 10, 2010, 11:57 PM
and see this is why I say to late. SVDO should have came out in 2009 I could have see nit making sense then but 2011? its like we went from dial up to DSL and then ISDN came out and said look at me over here I am almost as good as DSL but still a reminder of the dialup.
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Ghosthendrikson

Oct 11, 2010, 3:07 AM
I don't think 75% of the country counts as "Saturation". That memo I assume means 75% geographically. So while 75% of the United States will have access to LTE, it does not in fact mean that 75% of the population of either the United States or Verizon Wireless customers will be using LTE.
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Azeron

Oct 12, 2010, 6:20 AM
I think you have it back-wards, but only time will tell. I believe they are going to have coverage maps which are sparser than even T-Mobile's maps. They will have the big Metro areas covered but medium and smaller areas...forget about it.
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Azeron

Oct 12, 2010, 6:15 AM
Not even close. They gave AT&T hell in those commercials. How the worm turns, eh?
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Azeron

Oct 12, 2010, 6:12 AM
Exactly! Verizon made a big deal about AT&T's 3G network not covering a lot of land mass. I can't wait to see them spin why their LTE covers even less.
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CellStudent

Oct 11, 2010, 1:51 AM
ajac09 said:
No phone currently supports it and new phones have to be made to support this new SVDO CDMA.


I've done a bit more reading and it looks like odds are that most high-end revA handsets only need a software upgrade to use SVDO. I know the original Motorola Droid supported EVRC-B which is the only mandated feature at the handset level. Handsets won't be the problem.

The problem is that, after further investigation, it appears that this is not simply a software upgrade on the base station side. There is hardware that needs to be updated to make this thing go, and that will probably kill its North American deployment prospects for VZW or Sprint.

Qualcomm's marketeers are trying to pitch th...
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ajac09

Oct 11, 2010, 9:05 AM
not sure where your reading that from but going by the orginal annoucement earlier this year and talking to a few people close to SVDO it will require brand new handsets to work.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Oct 12, 2010, 3:59 PM
There are not 100,000 towers between Verizon and Sprint combined. Thinking on this forum seems to be a bit muddled about the role of 4G be it LTE or WIMAX.
CDMA based products will be around for a long time to come for things like voice and SMS. Many rural markets may not see 4G for years if ever. 4G is for data. There is a huge opportunity for wireless companies to take cable internet subscribers.
It is a worthwhile investment to upgrade CDMA as far as possible until 4G products can adequately replace it.
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Azeron

Oct 12, 2010, 6:10 AM
If it is too late then why is this pointy-headed *Bleep*er wasting our time talking about it? Do YOU know how they are going to accomplish Voice over LTE? I sure don't. If they are going to go with One Voice then bye-bye voice calling plans (which is one of the ways they make so much cake with very little cost to them. I still shake my head when I think about my store manager giggling that "we sell air and people actually pay a premium for it!" Remember the 4000 minute Am Choice rate plan for $149.99? They are going straight to hell for that.

I digress.

The point is: If they actually only use LTE for data but continue to use CDMA for voice then this might be necessary. It is way beyond me. I'm sure Cell Student or someone ha...
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