T-Mobile USA Calls WiMax 'Niche,' Prefers LTE
Ummm.....Not So Fast Mr. Ray.
While you may prefer LTE, the fact remains that you do not have enough spectrum to build out a successful LTE 4G network. ATT will not help you and and Verizon most certainly will want you out of the wireless business. So who is there to offer assistance? Relying on HSPA + may buy you some time, but as the demand for higher speeds increases, HSPA+ will fail to deliver the speeds necessary to compete with LTE and WiMAX in their advanced progressions.
You need Spectrum and Sprint has plenty to give. You were pigheaded in purchasing spectrum, now you want to short change your subscribers in the long term.
So while you may see WiMAX as a "Niche" , 4G in the form of LTE OR WiMAX, is much more of a reality in faster speeds with advancement...
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You need Spectrum and Sprint has plenty to give. You were pigheaded in purchasing spectrum, now you want to short change your subscribers in the long term.
So while you may see WiMAX as a "Niche" , 4G in the form of LTE OR WiMAX, is much more of a reality in faster speeds with advancement...
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ummm im a little confused.
How do you know how much spectrum t-mobile has?
How do you even know how much spectrum you need to build out a lte network?
T-mobile doesnt need to build LTE yet...verizon does. Why? because their network has been upgraded to its max and tapped out at 3mbps. Sprint same story which is why wi-max came into the picture....Same with at&t. Hspa+ uses the same 3g spectrum(so deploying it doesnt take anymore resorces then what their currently using) all they do is add a little upgrade to their 3g towers; giving faster speed than current "4g" speeds. It is easier to deploy which is why t-mobiles hspa + is already covering more areas and more customers than wi-max .Plus hspa+ can even be upgraded to 42mbps. Verizo...
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How do you know how much spectrum t-mobile has?
How do you even know how much spectrum you need to build out a lte network?
T-mobile doesnt need to build LTE yet...verizon does. Why? because their network has been upgraded to its max and tapped out at 3mbps. Sprint same story which is why wi-max came into the picture....Same with at&t. Hspa+ uses the same 3g spectrum(so deploying it doesnt take anymore resorces then what their currently using) all they do is add a little upgrade to their 3g towers; giving faster speed than current "4g" speeds. It is easier to deploy which is why t-mobiles hspa + is already covering more areas and more customers than wi-max .Plus hspa+ can even be upgraded to 42mbps. Verizo...
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Maybe in a lab HSPA+++ or whatever it's called can reach those amazing speeds, but how much in the real world with all type of obstacles and structures in the way? And also what applications do you need 42mbps to run properly?. And with data caps becoming more and more a reality for every carrier you'll just max out your caps just alot faster. I currently average 5-7Mbps with sprint wimax on my evo, and sometimes 9-11mbps if I'm less than 5 blocks from a tower which is more than enough bandwidth for any app to work just fine. I still can't even see within the next 3 years why a person would need a 42mbps connection with their cellphone. The majority of smartphone users just check e-mail and browse the web and download some apps here and ther...
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riiiight, speeds is what people care about 'hearing' even though they dont really need it I agree so what would it matter if TMO waited out their LTE so that it was the BEST like currently their speed ARE the BEST, and still so much cheaper, Im in a HSPA+ area right now, loving it, and in 4 mths moving to an awesome edge area, but still gunna keep TMO because I dont wanna pay more and i heart my phone
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I just know that its possible for hspa+ to be upgraded to 42mbps...i dont know if theyll upgrade it to that.... maybe they'll deploy LTE befor that? Who on this site knows?... none of us. 🙂 its all just our best guesses. I just personaly think t-mobile is maybe playing the game a little smarter.The only reason why LTE and wimax are been deployed is because their current networks were all ready tapped out.....basically they have to depoy it. So who know whats in the future?
And i fully agree with you too.. in an hspa+ with a regular 3g phone( samsung galexy s) i get 6mbps which is stupid fast on a phone and thats not even an hspa+ device. i Have no idea what you need 42mbps for on tierd data plans...i could think of some pretty good uses...
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And i fully agree with you too.. in an hspa+ with a regular 3g phone( samsung galexy s) i get 6mbps which is stupid fast on a phone and thats not even an hspa+ device. i Have no idea what you need 42mbps for on tierd data plans...i could think of some pretty good uses...
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How do data caps for HSPA+ differ from data caps for LTE or WiMax? Is your argument that no one needs data access that is that fast? If so, I half-heartedly agree with you. It seems a lot of this "Nation's fastest network" is more about bragging rights than anything the end-user cares about.
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Unfortunately, that is what the industry wants you to be. confused.
For the moment, Tmo is in fairly good shape. But here's the problem.
Available spectrum left to be acquired, is very rare. Any spectrum reserved for 4G, has pretty much been bought by the other carriers. Tmo can't say we will offer HSPA now and buy more spectrum for LTE later. There won't be any.
HSPA+ is the last segment I'm 3G where as WiMAX and LTE are the beginning of a new advanced technology. To compare speeds at this point is fair, but also preclusive.
What Tmo is doing is a technological bandaid. It's like coupling a Drag racing rear end to a stock drive train then saying here you go, have fun. Eventually, it will stop working.
HSPA is fast, but th...
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For the moment, Tmo is in fairly good shape. But here's the problem.
Available spectrum left to be acquired, is very rare. Any spectrum reserved for 4G, has pretty much been bought by the other carriers. Tmo can't say we will offer HSPA now and buy more spectrum for LTE later. There won't be any.
HSPA+ is the last segment I'm 3G where as WiMAX and LTE are the beginning of a new advanced technology. To compare speeds at this point is fair, but also preclusive.
What Tmo is doing is a technological bandaid. It's like coupling a Drag racing rear end to a stock drive train then saying here you go, have fun. Eventually, it will stop working.
HSPA is fast, but th...
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Yah i definatly see your points too but i dont think t-mobile is stupid and i think they have a bigger plan then just hspa+. Especially since they have their big(euro) brother watching over them. lol
My questions were also legit, i wasnt being sacastic. What spectrum has everyone agreed on for LTE or even will everyone use the same spectrum ?
How much does t-mobile have and how much do they need?
I just didnt think any standards have really been set for LTE yet.
My questions were also legit, i wasnt being sacastic. What spectrum has everyone agreed on for LTE or even will everyone use the same spectrum ?
How much does t-mobile have and how much do they need?
I just didnt think any standards have really been set for LTE yet.
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Exactly! Wimax is here now and wimax 2 is right around the corner which will deliver much faster speeds and Sprint is also going to upgrade there 3g cdma towers. Tmobile's footprint is small and soon that hspa network will get expensive and tmobile customer will be left to cover the bill! 😎
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