Droid X Owners Will Get Android FroYo Tomorrow
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Yeah have fun with it. 🙄 Froyo 2.2 pretty much crapped my Moto Droid. Matter of fact, it made it suck so much I deactivated mine. I use a regular flip phone now. When I get enough money I'm switching and getting an iPhone.
Be ready for:
-More force closings
-Sluggish speed
-YouTube glitches
-Data not connecting
-Pinch zoom loosing quality
-Battery drains faster
-Home screen having to load after exiting an app
-Flash 10.1 which means more load time for websites due to Flash advertisements.
For those who's seen my past posts will know I was Android "fanboy" but this is the experience I've had with mine and I couldn't take it anymore. I'm back to using a dumbphone and using my iPod Touch for all my smartphone needs. ...
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Be ready for:
-More force closings
-Sluggish speed
-YouTube glitches
-Data not connecting
-Pinch zoom loosing quality
-Battery drains faster
-Home screen having to load after exiting an app
-Flash 10.1 which means more load time for websites due to Flash advertisements.
For those who's seen my past posts will know I was Android "fanboy" but this is the experience I've had with mine and I couldn't take it anymore. I'm back to using a dumbphone and using my iPod Touch for all my smartphone needs. ...
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-Force closing: Did you ever have a task killer on your phone? This is why your get force closing
-speed: See aboce
-in the youtube app or the website? m.youtube.com is so great now, built in app kinda pointless imo
-Flash can be set to load "On demand" which speeds up website loading considerably.
Have you tried a full factory reset on the phone? You're not using it at the moment, so it can't hurt, especially if you ran a task killer.
-speed: See aboce
-in the youtube app or the website? m.youtube.com is so great now, built in app kinda pointless imo
-Flash can be set to load "On demand" which speeds up website loading considerably.
Have you tried a full factory reset on the phone? You're not using it at the moment, so it can't hurt, especially if you ran a task killer.
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Yes I used Task Killer constantly. For a long time it worked great but ever since 2.2 the apps kept turning themselves back on no matter how many times I killed them.
As for the factory reset I don't feel like having to go back and redownload everything and get all my setting back again. I shouldn't have to do that anyway. Whenever I had to reset my iPod I just synced it with iTunes and it was back the way I had it, with Android if I reset it I have to go back and do it all over again. That's like formatting a PC, waste of time.
What I'm merely pointing out is within a year of having a Droid it turned into junk with the constant updates. This is poor quality control. Just because it's a Android device doesn't mean it's awsome. I...
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As for the factory reset I don't feel like having to go back and redownload everything and get all my setting back again. I shouldn't have to do that anyway. Whenever I had to reset my iPod I just synced it with iTunes and it was back the way I had it, with Android if I reset it I have to go back and do it all over again. That's like formatting a PC, waste of time.
What I'm merely pointing out is within a year of having a Droid it turned into junk with the constant updates. This is poor quality control. Just because it's a Android device doesn't mean it's awsome. I...
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Using the task killer was your first problem. What menno is saying is that using a task killer on an android device can create more problems than it solves. Android is meant to run without one.
Personally I question the decision to allow froyo in general and flash specifically on the original Droid. It just doesn't have the specs for it. Apple won't allow ios4 on anything below a 3gs and for good reason. At least Verizon gave you the option.
Froyo on my evo absolutely kicks ass and I suspect it might be even better on the dx.
Personally I question the decision to allow froyo in general and flash specifically on the original Droid. It just doesn't have the specs for it. Apple won't allow ios4 on anything below a 3gs and for good reason. At least Verizon gave you the option.
Froyo on my evo absolutely kicks ass and I suspect it might be even better on the dx.
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Flash runs alright, but it does struggle with video more than my brother's D2 does.
Hardware wise, it flies with Froyo.
Hardware wise, it flies with Froyo.
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That makes me happy to hear. I'm happy that Motorola did not abandon support on that phone.
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I dont know what this fool is talking about. I have none of those problems on my droid 1 running froyo! Flash runs great. Websites still load up faster than my sister's iphone. I rarely have any force closes. Pinch to zoom still works great! Dont blame Android because you foolishly decided to run a task killer which is causing majority of your problems!
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Just because my device crapped out on me doesn't make me foolish! I actually had these problems. If your device works great then good for you. And if Task Killer really does cause probems then maybe there should be a notice going around about this. If I was in charge of Android development and knew Task Killer was bad for the device I would alert users.
And when I told Verizon that my battery was running down too fast even Verizon said to use Task Killer! I'm not a mind reader, I can't tell what Task Killer does till someone tells me. I wish people would quit hating on me because I voice out about problem I've had. Nobody said anything when I talked about how great Android was when I first got it. But by golly when I say something...
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And when I told Verizon that my battery was running down too fast even Verizon said to use Task Killer! I'm not a mind reader, I can't tell what Task Killer does till someone tells me. I wish people would quit hating on me because I voice out about problem I've had. Nobody said anything when I talked about how great Android was when I first got it. But by golly when I say something...
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I agree with what you're saying totally... but,
You didn't do yourself any favors by comparing it to an apple product... and in a way that incinuated that it was superior
Its easy for people to get defensive when you do that and even easier when people can point to a 3rd party program as a probably (although no confirmed) culprit.
You didn't do yourself any favors by comparing it to an apple product... and in a way that incinuated that it was superior
Its easy for people to get defensive when you do that and even easier when people can point to a 3rd party program as a probably (although no confirmed) culprit.
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-k ... »
Decent article with information straight from the developers of Android on why that program is not the best to run.
My take on the scenario is this: OpenOffice is pretty awesome, as is GIMP, Audacity is great for making ringtones loud as hell and trimming them. Those are all free, and cause no problems.
If I were to try to install Norton, or McAfee it is guaranteed to cause some problems and I would be just as liable to get a virus if I start searching for pr0n. Because they are TERRIBLE programs.
So are all the third party applications used by computer manufacturers to control WiFi (Windows does it natively). So why have that software?
After 2.1, you coul...
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Decent article with information straight from the developers of Android on why that program is not the best to run.
My take on the scenario is this: OpenOffice is pretty awesome, as is GIMP, Audacity is great for making ringtones loud as hell and trimming them. Those are all free, and cause no problems.
If I were to try to install Norton, or McAfee it is guaranteed to cause some problems and I would be just as liable to get a virus if I start searching for pr0n. Because they are TERRIBLE programs.
So are all the third party applications used by computer manufacturers to control WiFi (Windows does it natively). So why have that software?
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The biggest problem with this is the lack of any ability to close out apps in the app itself. Some apps let you close them down with Menu-> Exit. This should be a standard in EVERY app you make for Androids! We wouldn't need to use a task manager to close running apps if programmers would add such a menu option!
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Task killer DESTROYS your phone's OS. if you understand android, it's not that bad, but "using it a lot" will start ruining the .apk's of applications, corrupting them which is causing the issues you see now. Using a task killer is like intentionally downloading malware onto your device.
This is why Google blocked the API's used by these programs so that they CANNOT work anymore (this is why it seems broken in Froyo, this is intentional) So you're not killing them, you're just telling them to restart. task killers are seriously that Bad.
Once you're sitting on 2.2 for awhile, whenever you do a reset, your entire phone will redownload once you sync your email after a wipe. This is built into the OS now.
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This is why Google blocked the API's used by these programs so that they CANNOT work anymore (this is why it seems broken in Froyo, this is intentional) So you're not killing them, you're just telling them to restart. task killers are seriously that Bad.
Once you're sitting on 2.2 for awhile, whenever you do a reset, your entire phone will redownload once you sync your email after a wipe. This is built into the OS now.
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If Task Killer is so bad then why is it still on the market? Doesn't the Android developers even try to defend the quality of their OS by at least checking into the apps people are downloading?
Whether you agree with me or not (anyone here) you have to admit something, there shouldn't be this kind of drama with the device. I'm saying this with complete honesty, and because I know alot of iPhone users. But they say they rarely have OS problems. They also say the iPhone isn't perfect but when something messes up Apple jumps in and fixes it. Some have had their iPhone for over 2 years and love it. Why is it that I have a device that worked great when I first got it, even with Task Killer, but now it works like garbage?
I'm not being...
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Whether you agree with me or not (anyone here) you have to admit something, there shouldn't be this kind of drama with the device. I'm saying this with complete honesty, and because I know alot of iPhone users. But they say they rarely have OS problems. They also say the iPhone isn't perfect but when something messes up Apple jumps in and fixes it. Some have had their iPhone for over 2 years and love it. Why is it that I have a device that worked great when I first got it, even with Task Killer, but now it works like garbage?
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It's still on the market because original android devices (those stuck on 1.5 and 1.6) need something to help free up memory. These things were built with very small RAM allotments and their versions of android didn't have as aggressive a task manager. Used Properly (aka, not using the kill all button all the time) they can benefit these devices, but 2.0 and up, there is no reason for them, and if you don't use them the right way, you harm your device. And Google is doing something, they totally BLOCKED the API for Froyo and above devices. They can't remove it entirely because used properly it won't have the effects you're seeing.
What you're doing (blaming android) is like someone who sets his video card on his computer to run at max...
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What you're doing (blaming android) is like someone who sets his video card on his computer to run at max...
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Yes I used Task Killer constantly. For a long time it worked great but ever since 2.2 the apps kept turning themselves back on no matter how many times I killed them.Unistall the Task Killer
As for the factory reset I don't feel like having to go back and redownload everythingThe apps ARE the problem. Deleting them and starting over is the ONLY way to pull yourself out of the grave you've dug for yourself.
This is poor quality control.You can thank Google for the lack of quality control IN THE ANDROID MARKETPLACE because it's downloading tons of free apps written by novice, garbage programmers that broke your phone, not Froyo. Start opening your wallet and gett...
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Google wants to convince us Apple's ecosystem is inferior to theirs.
Apple's isn't perfect, but I can't name a single way in which the Android ecosystem could be worse. There's a lockdown on access to applications but none of the quality control on a platform trying to branch out to every cell phone sold.
Apple's isn't perfect, but I can't name a single way in which the Android ecosystem could be worse. There's a lockdown on access to applications but none of the quality control on a platform trying to branch out to every cell phone sold.
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Lockdown on app access?
No, there is a lockdown on access to the Market, apps themselves are not restricted (unless the developer chooses to do so)
Heck, Gameloft keeps most of their titles OFF the market.
No, there is a lockdown on access to the Market, apps themselves are not restricted (unless the developer chooses to do so)
Heck, Gameloft keeps most of their titles OFF the market.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the "walled garden" marketplace. If they want to have an open market cool, but I don't want part of that. I what just the good apps that are programmed to work on the device. I don't want apps created by some high school drop out that lives in his moms basement that plays World of Warcraft when he isn't making cut and paste crap apps.
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Nowhere near a computer, I can hard reset my EVO and within a matter of 10 minutes have my contacts back, whatever applications I work with (yes, some are bad, those that I have found to be "good" are worth the dollar or two, and those are saved under the "Downloaded" section, so easy to reinstall), UI Changes, you name it.
I have hard reset twice due to shiesty apps, which sucks, but I don't have to have anything special to get my phone back into working order, no apps, no computer syncing. Just have to sit down and do it.
I have hard reset twice due to shiesty apps, which sucks, but I don't have to have anything special to get my phone back into working order, no apps, no computer syncing. Just have to sit down and do it.
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Thats the only reason I won't do a factory reset. I don't want to have to sit for a time getting my stuff back. Yes the contacts can be resynced but that all. Everything else has to be redownloaded. And even as minor as it sounds I have some games that I spent alot of time one and gained some heavy ground, I don't want to loose my progress. And its not just game saves, it settings and saves on my other apps. It's just alot of info to have to replace. And worst of all some have told me that it's not a guarantee fix. Even Verizon did a system check on my device and said everything was fine and when I told them my problems they said they didn't know what to do about it. 🙄
I used to think iTunes was just stupid but now that I ...
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I've seen it take hours to restore an iPhone to a previous state. 10 minutes is a friggan *bargain* in comparison.
2.2 allows applications to be saved to the memory card. The games/apps that I have on my phone are all backed up to memory card, and the progress saved there, as well as user settings for my remote desktop software.
2.2 allows applications to be saved to the memory card. The games/apps that I have on my phone are all backed up to memory card, and the progress saved there, as well as user settings for my remote desktop software.
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