Oracle Smacks Google with Lawsuit Over Android Patents
New Business Model-- If your product isn't selling, find someone to sue
Why do these companies not focus on their own sales force instead of their lawyers?
Is there a line on their PNL for litigation winnings under the revenue section?
Is there a line on their PNL for litigation winnings under the revenue section?
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Our system is set up to keep other people from cherrypicking your own intellectual property. So if I spend 5 years coming up with a sophisticated programming language and testing it out, someone else can't see it and copy it in 1/5th that time.
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They bought another company that did, a company that had most of that language under an open license.
Plus, one of the biggest criticisms of Android by developers was that it didn't use standard java, but rather relied on different libraries, etc. I'm not saying that there most definatly wasn't any infringed code, But if Google WAS stealing all this code from SUN, why didn't SUN try suing?
I still find it ironic how you can brush off lawsuits over hardware patents taken by apple by companies like Nokia because "they are no longer relevant." but any lawsuit, no matter how stupid, is somehow justified by you.
Plus, one of the biggest criticisms of Android by developers was that it didn't use standard java, but rather relied on different libraries, etc. I'm not saying that there most definatly wasn't any infringed code, But if Google WAS stealing all this code from SUN, why didn't SUN try suing?
I still find it ironic how you can brush off lawsuits over hardware patents taken by apple by companies like Nokia because "they are no longer relevant." but any lawsuit, no matter how stupid, is somehow justified by you.
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I couldnt of said it better. I dont think the law suite will go anywhere, cause if i read it right google had previously hired out sun to work with them on java, while oracle just accuried those patents..right?
So google wouldn't have stole anything. How long has android been out.. its like 3 years later , and sun never tried suing.
So google wouldn't have stole anything. How long has android been out.. its like 3 years later , and sun never tried suing.
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That's because Sun's CEO was not a long time best friends with Jobs like Oracle CEO Larry Ellison is.
That said, I can see Google making out a seven figure check to Oracle. Even though Oracle did not "write" the code they did purchase Sun along with all their IP which would include any code used in the standard JVM.
Like Blue said, Google knew what they were doing when the hire the ex Sun devs and used them to create Dalvik and bypass Sun’s original licensing terms. So if Dalvik does include any code that could be considered IP of Oracle then they have a pretty good case.
This is a nice read which really breaks it down in layman's terms.
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/08/13/how-google-t ... »...
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That said, I can see Google making out a seven figure check to Oracle. Even though Oracle did not "write" the code they did purchase Sun along with all their IP which would include any code used in the standard JVM.
Like Blue said, Google knew what they were doing when the hire the ex Sun devs and used them to create Dalvik and bypass Sun’s original licensing terms. So if Dalvik does include any code that could be considered IP of Oracle then they have a pretty good case.
This is a nice read which really breaks it down in layman's terms.
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/08/13/how-google-t ... »...
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Apparently Sun's CEO had been shopping the company with the knowledge Google was infringing on their Java patents.
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So? Google didn't come up with Android, they bought another company.
Nokia is suing Apple because Nokia isn't a relevant handset maker anymore, and they want to leech off of Apple's R&D in exchange for some old wireless patents covered by Apple's existing GSM licenses. I have yet to see any evidence otherwise.
Oracle is suing Google on an entirely different level. Google is poaching Java in a manner similar to what HTC did with Apple's heuristics or Palm did with iTunes synchronization- they're trying to weasel out of licensing terms.
So to clarify: Nokia vs. Apple is about splitting hairs over irrelevant wireless patents (which I call BS.) Oracle Vs. Google is about weaseling out of licensing terms. That's why they're different.
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Nokia is suing Apple because Nokia isn't a relevant handset maker anymore, and they want to leech off of Apple's R&D in exchange for some old wireless patents covered by Apple's existing GSM licenses. I have yet to see any evidence otherwise.
Oracle is suing Google on an entirely different level. Google is poaching Java in a manner similar to what HTC did with Apple's heuristics or Palm did with iTunes synchronization- they're trying to weasel out of licensing terms.
So to clarify: Nokia vs. Apple is about splitting hairs over irrelevant wireless patents (which I call BS.) Oracle Vs. Google is about weaseling out of licensing terms. That's why they're different.
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Yes, because antenna designs and hardware configurations are irrelevant, right? They take a lot less to develop than a couple lines of code that make a web page "bounce" if you scroll past the edge of it.. is that what you're saying?
You're the one trying to split hairs to justify your position, not Nokia.
You're the one trying to split hairs to justify your position, not Nokia.
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They think they own touchscreen input and touch gestures. Our system didn't prevent Apple from cherrypicking the majority of their user experience from Palm and HTC.
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Uh what did Apple cherry pick from HTC?
And Palm? Do you remember the precursor to the Palm OS? Something called the Newton? No? Well it's called the Newton.
And Palm? Do you remember the precursor to the Palm OS? Something called the Newton? No? Well it's called the Newton.
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Both HTC and Palm own a number of patents on their respective touch interfaces that existed before the iPhone.
Or are you part of the crowd that believes Apple is God thus they invented the entire universe?
I guess if that is your train of thought then everything is Apple's intellectual property...
Or are you part of the crowd that believes Apple is God thus they invented the entire universe?
I guess if that is your train of thought then everything is Apple's intellectual property...
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