Nokia Statement Backs Apple's iPhone Defense
Nokia's actual quote is somewhat of a backhanded comment
In general, antenna performance of a mobile device/phone may be affected with a tight grip, depending on how the device is held. That's why Nokia designs our phones to ensure acceptable performance in all real life cases, for example when the phone is held in either hand. Nokia has invested thousands of man hours in studying how people hold their phones and allows for this in designs, for example by having antennas both at the top and bottom of the phone and by careful selection of materials and their use in the mechanical design.
While they agree that a tight grip affects signal strength, they go on to say that Nokia phones attend to these matters by designing around the antenna. In other words, Apple's design o...
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2) You've seen the discussion from people who have been affected by this? There are iPhone 4 users out there who are definitely miffed, although I think the number is a bit blown out of proportion.
3) Have you even used an iPhone 4? I'm willing to guess no.
That's not particularly in line with the antenna behavior that's being reported.
Providing you don't bridge the antenna gap with your finger in low-signal areas, you'll notice a dramatic improvement in low-signal performance. I'm not done testing it yet, but my prediction is that the iPhone 4's antenna performs better in weak signal than any other device currently sold on AT&T's network.
He contemplated a case for it, but felt it was counter-productive to the point. I could not disagree with him.
Providing you don't bridge the antenna gap with your finger in low-signal areas
That comment is basically defending Steve Jobs comment that everyone is holding their phone wrong. The regular way that phones are typically held in the left hand causes the bridge to occur.
It's a major annoyance, and it's not what's expected out of a quality product. Design should be built around usage, and not vice-versa. A product should be built that makes you use the product in a different way than what's most convenient/makes the most sense just to get it to work correctly.
Now, I'll admit, Apple puts out beautiful looking products, and excellent software, but there is no denying the existence of this design flaw.
I shorted the antenna on three of the devices on display. I watched first hand how the signal dropped from full-strength/3G to absolutely no signal whatsoever.
I was actually surprised that the problem happened exactly as described. I was skeptical at first.
I personally live in a major suburb south of St. Louis. Everyone I know lives within a few miles of Major cities, Detroit (scary), Chicago and LA. To be honest all of us live within a few miles of a tower. The only place I have had an issue with the iPhone 4's signal is Los Angeles, but even Steve Jobs blames California for poor coverage not the carriers... bureaucrat.
Some people call it poor engineering but educated individuals call it revolutionary. I would rather have Apple create a new antenna that no one has tried before and find out a way to make it people proof than to stick with what has been done before. When Apple finds a way to make the antenna part of the frame AND have virtually '0' degradation imagine how much b...
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I just wish that rather than insult every single other cell phone manufacturer, Apple would just fess up to the fact that there is a real world flaw in the iPhone 4. They can blame physics all they want, but the loss of signal strength in just about any other phone is nowhere near as present as in the iPhone 4.
For such an expensive phone, people should expect, at minimum, a fully-functional antenna.
2) Apple just stated that the loss in signal strength on any other phone is on par with what's lost on the iPhone 4.
3) Ars Technica confirmed this early on.
4) Apple also acknowledged for some people the antenna design may cause a problem because its sensitivity is different, so they're giving them a case if they're having problems.
5) In most settings, the iPhone 4's antenna outperforms its peers.
But that doesn't mean I can't reproduce the issues elsewhere. Such attenuation only happens in certain areas based on signal strength, position to towers, etc.
You can't say signal is the difference...
They're both connecting to the same damn towers!
How can you honestly say that signal is the difference. Oh, that's right, because Steve Jobs said so. His word is as golden as God himself.
Evo customer's are just upset that they can not color coordinate their phone like you can with the iPhone. smh
Is there not a single iPhone user on this website that can actually think for themselves and form opinions based on facts and research?
All I've been hearing is: "iPhone is the greatest evar and ur just jelous cuz ur phone sux, lol!"
Sigh, I guess that is expecting too much from the iPhone crowd.
Apple sold 3,000,000 products in 3 weeks no other device has sold like that so of course its the only phone that got singled out for that issue
The pictures on the Apple website show that the exact same thing occurs on the Blackberry, and yet in an ATT Store I can death grip the iPhone 4 from full service to no service every single time. The blackberry, no matter how I hold it, doesn't drop to no signal.
Get the facts straight, it has been confirmed by a number of reputable sources that there is a design flaw in the hardware. I have confirmed this as well, first hand.
I'm not downplaying all of the obvious benefits the iPhone has, but what pisses me off is that rather than admit to the flaw they're playing the "we suck, but so does everybody else" card, and that simply is not true. The amount of signal degradation caused by the death touch on the iPhone 4 is nowhere comparable to other handsets.
I own two phones, a Samsung WM and a HTC N1. Neither will drop signal to the ...
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I'm a Nexus One owner.
I'm not going to say my Nexus One is better than the iPhone 4. I'm not even going to say that the drop does not occur. But losing 100% of signal strength on an iPhone 4 is a much more severe drop (proportionally) than going from 5 bars to 4 bars on my nexus one.
100% drop > 20% drop
Or by Apple's fuzzy math
100% drop = 20% drop
But to clear this up- you don't lose 120db of signal strength on an iPhone 4 by holding it with your left hand. It's about a ~20db drop if you're able to reproduce it.
Under the old software, it was showing 4-5 bars where there may be two or three, and a small drop could take you from bar 5 down to bar 1.
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