Obama Commits to Auctioning Off 500MHz of Spectrum

Yeah, I agree w/u about every president not caring about the border. But I don't lnow if you noticed or not, but it seems as though the issue of the border is getting to a boiling point. Very possibly this Gov. Of Arizona Vs. Obama thing will reach the Supreme Court. She's right, the federal government has failed!!!

I totally agree with you. The feds have failed at this. This could be an easy fix IMO. I dont think most want to be a US citizen, I think the majority wants to support their families and they cannot do it in Mexico. I think Bush 2's guest worker program was the right way to go but his own party shut him down. I think thats the only logical way to go and put more manpower (border agents NOT marines) and technology on the border. Thats my 2 cents Jay.

Ohhhkay,...I can go along with that! Also put more *pressure* on the mexican government to handle all the crazzzy gangs on *their* side of the border! 🤨

I hear you. The drug cartels are out of control and while the Calderon administration has turned up the pressure, it just has not been that effective. There are also many social issues that come into play as well. For too long in Mexico, the wealthy and political elite have ran the country and held on to the country's wealth with a vice grip. The opportunity to be successful no matter where you come from is not a reality like it is here. If you want to steer people away from that activity, then the opportunity to better yourself and living situation has to be there. Judging by the flight north boldly shows you that that is not the case.

Perhaps the people of mexico need to have a revolution!
Supposedly mexico is a democracy. People need to take control of their government.

The question is; does the Mexican constitution allow for that? Ours is the only one that I know of that is the people limiting government and not the government dispensing rights and their version of justice.

Never say never. Look at the mess FDR made and he was re-elected.

What? Try to clean up the mess that he was handed by Hoover (Republican)? Or winning World War 2? Creation of the FDIC, SEC, Fair Labor Standards Act, and Social Security System? Some of his other initiatives were far reaching and those that were struck down by the supreme court but FDR left a lasting legacy. Sorry dude 🙂

We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not going to go into too many details on this one but here's my stance.

WWII - Not the biggest fan, but at least they constitutionally declared it.
FDIC - Against
SEC - Against
Fair Labor Standards Act - Against
Social Security - Against. World largest Ponzi scheme run by(you guessed it) the government

-Repeal of the gold standard. BTW Breton Woods is NOT a gold standard.
-TVA and various other New Deal projects.
and the list goes on.

I also never said the Republicans were any better. Sadly, most of our presidents in the 20th century have been more on the authoritarian side than champions of freedom.

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One thing FDR did during the great depression is put people to work doing public works projects. This is where the US Highway system and most of our hydroelectric power came from.
His policies did not end the depression but he gave people a sense of hope and the dignity to work. This is why he was re elected. President Obama's response to the recession is to blame others and then spend money we do not have on projects that do not create anything.

WE AMERICANS COULD CHANGE THAT IF WE WONT TO DAM LAZY TO TAKE THE JOBS THE MEXICANS DO!THEY ARE TAKING THE JOBS WE ARE TO LAZY TO DO.THATS THE BIG PROBLEM HERE... THIS COUNTRY HAS GOT FAT AND LAZY AND EVERYONE THINKS THEY ARE INTITLED TO SOMETHING!

people told them no on what ?

the actully polls state that everyone was against "obamacare" as you put it but the problem is thouse same polls showed that when people were asked about the parts of the Health care reform an overwelming majority were in favor of each of the parts. all that goes to show is the misinformation and lack of true info out there.

the Truth is Americans don't know what they want until the pundits tell them.

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people told them no on what ?


the Truth is Americans don't know what they want until the pundits tell them.

I wrote and emailed my Senator (TX) not to vote for it.


To that last sentence, I believe you are unfortunately correct about the masses thinking. Too few think for themselves. This is the epic fail and exactly why government 'Can' get bigger. It is thinking micro managing the lazy and helpless majority.

let me ask you this why did you not want it ? in detail please, if you can.

and just so you know I'm an independent i think both sides make good point and i think both sides have bad points. that being said if you caould answer my question.

Things not reformed:
Couple of sticking points for me. The base problem not covered is tort reform, suing the doctors for malpractice. This is necessary to get current costs down. Since they didn't cover it. The other thing not covered is the amount of bureacracy insurance companies and government make doctors fill out. Both of these make doctors not want to do their job.

Obamacare:
My intitial problems include: 1) the funding of said Obamacare. Using my tax dollars to put more under the government (which they claim is more jobs). 1a) Requiring insurance is not democratic, they constitution says the government cannot require its citizens to buy anything. 1b) Also requiring businesses to have to pay for insurance is counter productive to...
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ok then let me ask you is something better then nothing or is nothing better then something ?

1) your tax dollers are already in the governments hands. a lot of the money is coming from programs that are being cut, and yes some of it is coming from new taxes mainly on the upper 1% of the population, if i was a millionare i would be pissed also but i'm not.

1a) your right i don't agree with that but in all honesty that is a republican Idea that was incorporated. Now they are using that as a sticking point to piss people off. Think about this Mitt Romney healthcare 2006 look it up if you don't know.

1b) thats not the full truth, small busniess which are the back bone of our country are going to be reciving tax breaks to allow them t...
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Supermajority of 1? When you are in the majority, you have the right to push through your agenda. Thats how our democratic system works. Also, Obama is guilty of bailing out some companies but the GOP also voted to bailout companies. TARP was signed by a republican president and had good GOP support.
As for Obamacare, many people did not like it but it is one of a many reasons they are getting put out. Hell, even republicans that did not vote for it are on the hot seat. Obamacare whether you like it or not was passed democratically. The bill sucks and they could have done better but it went through our system fair and square. To repeal the bill, we are going to have to elect people to push this agenda through Congress. Thats a democracy dud...
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i'm going to ask you to, what is wrong with the bill ?

Kaztro said:
i'm going to ask you to, what is wrong with the bill ?

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Also I didn't mention, but you may already know, that in countries that have universal healthcare (Canada, Britain) the tax rate is around 40%. Personally last year I was peaved at the 8% I gave up.

China, North Korea, Russia, etc. communist government run healthcare, which in a perfect society we all pull together and work for the common good sounds fine, are all extrememly bad.

The ideal Obama wants is noble, to all work towards one societal goal, but it is not rational where humans naturally compete and want more - the natural free market approach allows for s...
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I was asking him what he see as the problems ha ha.....

sorry 🙂

ygbhen any reply?

Lol! No prob. I am against the bill b/c of the prescription drug or lack there of part. I think buying some drugs from Canada and other developed nations with like standards would save a lot of money. Obama decided to cave in to the pharmaceutical lobbyists and omit that provision. He lost me there.

ha ha seriously ?

OK so because some concessions had to be made in-order to lay the frame work for a comprehensive health-care reform you against the whole bill?

you seem like a bright guy so I'm sure your aware that in framing the constitution of this country that slavery was brought up and left for later generations to deal with. Simply put you have to pick your fights.

also lets keep in mind......

OBAMA DID NOT CREATE THE BILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a number of house members and senators created it and he approved it......concessions had to be made to get the votes to pass it.

I understand your angle but comparing health care in France, Canada, Britain, and other western democracies is a more fair comparison. Our soceity, govt, economy, and poverty level situation is much more different than whats going on in China, NK, and Russia.
As for the market approach, that sounds good but the people who hold all the cards (health care providers) are not playing fair. We are paying skyrocketing premiums and deductibles and each year we get less and less and pay more and more. And lets be serious, TORT reform will only garner minimal savings so this problem is more than about abuse from the consumer side. The people who basically makes all the decisions have time and time again shown that its all about money. Capitalism is ...
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The supermajority is a result of the republicans abusing their power. The people responded and the democrats with more power are pushing things the people didn't vote them in to do. I didn't say the GOP did something right. Quite the opposite I said that the president is controlling too much power. This is one thing that needs to be fixed.

The government is too big and the people need to rise up, work hard and take back our self governing day to day. The bureaucracy is taking over. Authoritian (Mr. President I'm looking at you) rule gets closer with every massive life changing (literally requiring insurance or tax dollars to pay for it) new legislation.

Once again exaggerations. I wish many of you were this outraged before the Patriot Act passed.

ha ha touche

I believe in our security systems (CIA, NSA, .. yes there are unfortunate abuses, see that youtube where the cop hit that girl). The patriot act emboldened our security forces, people do disagree with me including a former air force network engineer professor I had in college, but I give the benefit of the doubt this time.

every read 1984 ? ever read or see V for vendetta ?

I think the two party system is the real problem

What would you prefer? One?

Last time I checked, we did not have a two-party system. (green, libertarian, constitution, the list goes on and on...)

really we have more then two parties ? so whats the name of the Green Party member of congress ? What is the name of the libertarian running in your disrict this November ? I forget maybe you could remind me who was the last Consitiution President ?

So your problem isn't the number of parties, but rather their sizes?? Not my fault if their nominees can't get elected.

I'm afraid you'll have to take that one up with the American General Public.

thats what i'm saying again two parties, the parties are decide by the public. if the public is only nominating two parties guess what we have a two party system......a first year PolySci student could tell you that.

Well apparently you're telling me that too.

Unfortunately, I must disagree with you and all those students. Just because two parties make up the majority doesn't make it a two party system. (yes, I'm a fairly literal kind of girl.)

not majority....entirety, but to each his/her own, just a quick question if two parties make up and entirety of the system and they have for the better part of 150 years or so. How do we literaly not have a two party system ?

How can you completely deny the possibility of those smaller parties growing in strength and popularity?

Seriously, don't say to each his/her own unless you mean it. 😛

Ah, I say how it works is when a majority of the American voting public gets pist off at whichever party is currently majority, then they vote them out, and vote the other party in. Which is likely what's gonna happen in November, people are pissed @ the dems cause of the rapidly growing deficit, and the immense lack of job growth, so they'll vote republicans in, and give them a chance.

Besides, Obama is way, way, way tooooooo partisan, and too polarising. I think America should force the President to work with congress, and right now he doesn't have to because most of congress is the same damn party.

Too much of one party isn't good for the country,...I think.

I'd have to agree. So as the smaller parties speak up, and gain more and more members, it's better for everyone.

but see thats the problem we don't give them a chance, when the republicans win back some seats in november then all we'll here for the next few years is how the President is not working with them, when for the last two years they have been asked for ideas and they don't give any. the problem is we are in a now generation and if you really think in a year and 5 months that Obama was going to fix this country your need your brian checked, it took Bush 8 years to destroy it and we want it fixed in a day. if you watch the voting patternd you'll see that when the repblicans can they allow thing like the healthcare bill, the recovery act, and any other thing to pass and if you watch really closly they every throw in a few votes if need to allow i...
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no i do but i am like the cat and george, curious....

Me too. Have been told on numerous occasions that I ask too many questions!

Its not as simple as you would like to put it. Money and politics is the reason. The two dominant parties use everything at their disposal and only allow for one of these candidates to grace our eyes when they need a 3rd man to steal votes from the other party. Check out what happened here in Texas where a group with ties to Republican party donated large sums of money to the Green Party so that there candidate would run to try to split the Democratic vote for the next governorship. The Dems went to court and won. Funny thing is that the GOP even paid for the Green Party's lawyers during the ordeal. This works both ways and this is why you will not see a real third party candidate.

Yet. We haven't seen a real "third party" candidate YET.

Those third party members DO exist, and I have a feeling as the Big 2 make more mistakes, they'll continue to lose ground.

Heck, to me y'all sound like the people a couple hundred years ago who thought we'd always bow to Royalty in England!

No i don't see it as that way, which is why i said the two party system is the problem, and currently thats what we have. look at it this way....the TEA party as much as they don't want to admit it is just another wing of the republican party. They are lossing ground yes but to conformist in there own part. All that's going on right now is a reconstruction of the same big two.......two bring it back to phones like AT&T and Verizon

Well I work for Sprint.

Nuff said.

lol

The two party cell phone system will be a worldwide phenomenon: Vodafone and at&t.

ok not yet, but some day the international will all come together.

And that will be the day I drop off the map, and live in a wigwam on a mountain like my little brother.

...or maybe a log cabin. the wigwam is a little too far off the map, even for me. ;)

Technically *ALL* Presidents *should* be Consitutional Presidents! ! ! Hense the vow they take when taking office.

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*should* but they still represent only 1 party, and its not the whigs.

Bipartisanship from a President? I'm not a history major so I can't think about any circumstances where they pulled together... hmmm world wars? 9/11 kind of? Can anybody name any bipartisanship?

I was only a kid in the 80s, so wtf do I know, but wasn't Reagan considered to be bipartisan?

He did work well from what I understand across the aisle, didn't they call him the great negotiator? but yes I was a kid too.

Did you know most people had insane interest rates in the 80s? My parents house was around 18%.

It all ebbs and flows, Reagan was probably scared and so was everyone else because a president had just been impeached.

See, there, kicks somebodies tail and they will behave. Guess we need to regulate on some structures of govt - Rich Brome for President representing the PhoneScoop party.

Ooh that's a great idea!! 😁