Verizon Wireless and Motorola Launch Droid X
Verizon's answer to the iPhone 4...
So after going through the incredibly boring presentation, Verizon's answer is a giant brick of a handset that looks like a giant turd.
Let's be honest, this thing is no Nexus One or Droid Incredible (or even HTC Evo)... let alone iPhone 4. The original Droid hardware was pretty shoddy, this looks bad too. What happened to Motorola's awesome ID department?
Won't ship with Froyo , perhaps the brightest news of the Android world.... so they're launching a new phone with obsolete software. Nice going guys. I've had Froyo on my N1 for 2 months now.
Flash? Flash still isn't ready? Oh goodie. Speaking of Flash, did anyone catch that Palm said Adobe (despite wanting Flash everywhere) is leaving them out in the cold? So...
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Let's be honest, this thing is no Nexus One or Droid Incredible (or even HTC Evo)... let alone iPhone 4. The original Droid hardware was pretty shoddy, this looks bad too. What happened to Motorola's awesome ID department?
Won't ship with Froyo , perhaps the brightest news of the Android world.... so they're launching a new phone with obsolete software. Nice going guys. I've had Froyo on my N1 for 2 months now.
Flash? Flash still isn't ready? Oh goodie. Speaking of Flash, did anyone catch that Palm said Adobe (despite wanting Flash everywhere) is leaving them out in the cold? So...
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You do realize the process that has to be gone through to get a software update pushed right?
Google has to finish it and send it to Motorola who has to tweak it to their hardware and send it to Verizon, who has to tweak it and then push it back to the others to make sure nothing got broke.
As for flash, it is ready. I have flash on my 2.2 Rooted Droid, it's just waiting for 2.2 to hit the handsets. Considering this isn't shipping until mid-July, it won't be that long of a wait until 2.2 hits.
I'm with you on the bloatware, but once the phone gets rooted it will be really easy to clean that stuff up.
As far as cosmetics, I'm not a fan of the non-keyboard phones as it is, but I do like the huge screen. To each his own in that dep...
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Google has to finish it and send it to Motorola who has to tweak it to their hardware and send it to Verizon, who has to tweak it and then push it back to the others to make sure nothing got broke.
As for flash, it is ready. I have flash on my 2.2 Rooted Droid, it's just waiting for 2.2 to hit the handsets. Considering this isn't shipping until mid-July, it won't be that long of a wait until 2.2 hits.
I'm with you on the bloatware, but once the phone gets rooted it will be really easy to clean that stuff up.
As far as cosmetics, I'm not a fan of the non-keyboard phones as it is, but I do like the huge screen. To each his own in that dep...
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Like we've been saying every time you brought up this stupid excuse.
Froyo is NOT OUT ON ANY DEVICE YET OFFICIALLY. and the Source code (what motorola needs to develop their os) was just released today. Pretty sure that it takes more than 15days to code a new OS/
Flash ships with Froyo. That's the reason they don't have it yet. Why doesn't it have flash? See above.
There are a lot of people who like vcast actually. It's great for keeping kids entertained (Disney is one of the more than 40 options you can choose to watch) not to mention live sporting events (such as the world cup). And it's not delaying froyo because, see above, froyo was JUST launched.
And more than likely this phone was in the works before anything about...
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Froyo is NOT OUT ON ANY DEVICE YET OFFICIALLY. and the Source code (what motorola needs to develop their os) was just released today. Pretty sure that it takes more than 15days to code a new OS/
Flash ships with Froyo. That's the reason they don't have it yet. Why doesn't it have flash? See above.
There are a lot of people who like vcast actually. It's great for keeping kids entertained (Disney is one of the more than 40 options you can choose to watch) not to mention live sporting events (such as the world cup). And it's not delaying froyo because, see above, froyo was JUST launched.
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Nobody uses VCast unless you're a VZW salesman or you subscribed to it accidentally. I repeat: nobody.
And Froyo was made available to developers and hardware partners awhile back. In other words, a 2 month delay from today is pathetic. They're a hardware partner and Google is "open" (sarcasm alert) - you don't seriously mean to tell me Motorola developed this in the dark do you?
And I can tell you this much- nobody at the launch event even referenced the Evo's existence, but they knew whose shadow they were in.
And Froyo was made available to developers and hardware partners awhile back. In other words, a 2 month delay from today is pathetic. They're a hardware partner and Google is "open" (sarcasm alert) - you don't seriously mean to tell me Motorola developed this in the dark do you?
And I can tell you this much- nobody at the launch event even referenced the Evo's existence, but they knew whose shadow they were in.
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You really are just a major troll, aren't you? Froyo has only JUST been released to developers, the "release" you keep talking about is an official-unnoficial preview that they pushed out to press units that was alter leaked to the public. Google did not release this code to the manufacturers until today or damn near it. And who cares what the competition for the droid X is on other carriers? it's still a great phone and something a lot of people want.
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The final version has been released, but developers have had over a month of access to Froyo. That's like saying iOS4 was just released and it's ridiculous to expect hardware/software for it so soon.
So far the Droid X doesn't look like a good phone. Doesn't mean people won't buy it- People bought the original Droid and that phone is a giant hunk of crap.
So far the Droid X doesn't look like a good phone. Doesn't mean people won't buy it- People bought the original Droid and that phone is a giant hunk of crap.
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And that right there is why your comments aren't even close to valid. the droid is, and continues to be a huge seller for verizon, and for a reason, it's a great phone. Did you miss all of the tech news sites and various other media outlets naming the original droid as the gadget of the year for 2009? or maybe you're so full of crap that you can't be bothered to read anything. And yeah, you're right. iOS4 sure has been available to hardware manufacturers months before it was released.
Froyo *just* went gold, thats why they released it as source TODAY, or are you not familiar with the open source development model?
Froyo *just* went gold, thats why they released it as source TODAY, or are you not familiar with the open source development model?
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bluecoyote said:
Nobody uses VCast unless you're a VZW salesman or you subscribed to it accidentally. I repeat: nobody.
Obviously someone never took any kind of logic/speech/debate class because using absolute terms like "nobody uses item X" (unless you have empirical evidence that it, in fact, nobody uses it) only weakens your argument.
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Show me empirical evidence that states:
1) VCast is a desirable service consumers ask for and use on a regular basis.
2) Show me any evidence that VCast's user base even registers on the map of mobile content distribution audiences.
1) VCast is a desirable service consumers ask for and use on a regular basis.
2) Show me any evidence that VCast's user base even registers on the map of mobile content distribution audiences.
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Lol
You're the one making wild claims that absolutely no one, with the exception of VZW salesmen, uses VCast.
You're the one making wild claims that absolutely no one, with the exception of VZW salesmen, uses VCast.
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How about you dredge up the numbers pointing otherwise.
Verizon is offering the service, they continue to do so (and pay royalties to companies to host their content) They wouldn't do this is someone wasn't paying for it.
the burden of proof is on YOU to provide data that shows that no one uses it.
Verizon is offering the service, they continue to do so (and pay royalties to companies to host their content) They wouldn't do this is someone wasn't paying for it.
the burden of proof is on YOU to provide data that shows that no one uses it.
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I'm saying it, and I'll make this easy- I'm citing the fact that on this forum I'm almost always right. Prove me wrong.
I'll go out on a limb here and state nobody's buying a Kin either.
I'll go out on a limb here and state nobody's buying a Kin either.
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You're "right" because you can't see past your own reflection.
But even if you WERE always right when you spoke on this forum, you're posts are about palm, android, and apple, NOT about software features offered by a carrier that is not your primary carrier, so any past correct assumptions have NO weight on the current discussion
And my aunt uses vcast to keep her kids entertained with Disney shows on the road. That is another customer (non-verizon employee) who uses vcast. so blue, since you said NO ONE uses vcast, that makes you WRONG.
But even if you WERE always right when you spoke on this forum, you're posts are about palm, android, and apple, NOT about software features offered by a carrier that is not your primary carrier, so any past correct assumptions have NO weight on the current discussion
And my aunt uses vcast to keep her kids entertained with Disney shows on the road. That is another customer (non-verizon employee) who uses vcast. so blue, since you said NO ONE uses vcast, that makes you WRONG.
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what in the world does the kin have to do with this? those are low end, socially based phones.
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he just throws out everything he can, hoping to hit a target somewhere.
Kind of like blowing up a field to get an ant hill.
all bluster, no real purpose
Kind of like blowing up a field to get an ant hill.
all bluster, no real purpose
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He's like an Ork trying to shoot something. Relying on the old tactic of "More Dakka". Just fire a hailstorm of bullets in the general direction of the enemy and maybe one might hit. Accuracy be dammed!
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Well, I know for a fact at least a couple people have bought the kin. Despite pleading on the part of myself and other reps to look at a different phone lol
So now you're wrong. All of your statements are now invalid. Thank you (see, I can use hyperbole and absolute statements not backed up with facts too).
So now you're wrong. All of your statements are now invalid. Thank you (see, I can use hyperbole and absolute statements not backed up with facts too).
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iOS 4 was announced when? The actual download was available when? Were those two days back to back?
You've been talking about how delayed 2.2 is since it was announced. By that logic, apple's release is also PATHETIC.
Google hasn't released 2.2 on their Nexus One (aka their dev phone) officially yet, why do you expect handset makers who have to follow carrier approval in ADDITION to their own to be faster than google, who coded the software and can release it at will?
Motorola most likely had an early build of the OS that they've been working with, but the final (aka RC) build just came out today, and that is the build their device has to match.
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You've been talking about how delayed 2.2 is since it was announced. By that logic, apple's release is also PATHETIC.
Google hasn't released 2.2 on their Nexus One (aka their dev phone) officially yet, why do you expect handset makers who have to follow carrier approval in ADDITION to their own to be faster than google, who coded the software and can release it at will?
Motorola most likely had an early build of the OS that they've been working with, but the final (aka RC) build just came out today, and that is the build their device has to match.
They didn't mention the Evo because they were at a VERIZON (not sprint) con...
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I'm *honestly* having a hard time buying the fact that bluecoyote is NOT hatedone from engadget, they have the same logic capabilities, the same obvious bias against android and any developer that ISN'T apple, and the constant insistance that they do in fact own and use a nexus one...There's no way two people like them could exist!
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regardless, you still troll every android post on here. I've yet to find one useful post by you regarding android. I wont say to know everything you've posted but to date, you're constantly posting about how terrible android is and will continue to be; do you even read the articles?
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My step sister uses VCast. All. The. Time. As she is one person, and neither VZW Salesperson nor an accidental subscriber. That renders your argument that NOBODY uses it invalid.
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Mostly music. Does it make sense? Not a bit, but have you ever tried to get a 17 year old girl to stop doing something she wanted to do? 🙄
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Read up blue, you've missed some Froyo and Flash news over the last two days.
Maybe take a break from Android bashing for a day or two and catch up on this.
Google JUST released the source code to Froyo TODAY to devs and manufactures, and here is their press release to prove it. PhoneScoop also posted this is the story above this one.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/celebrating-a ... »
Here is the Adobe press release from yesterday stating 10.1 is done and has been sent to the OEM's
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressrelea ... »
Also that’s great you hav...
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Maybe take a break from Android bashing for a day or two and catch up on this.
Google JUST released the source code to Froyo TODAY to devs and manufactures, and here is their press release to prove it. PhoneScoop also posted this is the story above this one.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/celebrating-a ... »
Here is the Adobe press release from yesterday stating 10.1 is done and has been sent to the OEM's
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressrelea ... »
Also that’s great you hav...
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The N1 is easy to load custom ROMs on, I don't know about the Droid X. The HTC Droid Incredible is monumentally difficult.
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It all depends on how difficult they make the boot loader.
If it's like the Droid, it should be pretty simple. As long as Cyanogen/Koush get ahold of a model, they should make a version of Rom Manager for it, and then custom roms are cake
If it's like the Droid, it should be pretty simple. As long as Cyanogen/Koush get ahold of a model, they should make a version of Rom Manager for it, and then custom roms are cake
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Hey! I know one thing it does better than iphone4...MAKE PHONE CALLS! hahahahahah...guess youll have to wait for YOUR update. hahahahahahah or go buy an iphone glove
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