T-Mobile App Keeps Android Phones Running Smoothly
This is a problem and it illustrates what I consider to be the reason Android won't last...
The problem with Android's development model is that the hardware and software is not on the same page, nor can it ever expect to be. Honestly, Developing for Android successfully is far harder than on any modern mobile platform, and T-Mobile's struggles already show it.
Let me break it down like this:
T-Mobile is looking to enhance the user experience for their Android customers , but by doing so they're installing software that is going beyond its necessary functionality and providing useful tools that modify system behavior. (Honestly, folks, iOS4 and WebOS 1.4 don't need this kind of crap... and I think no decent mobile OS should.)
The problem is that T-Mobile isn't a software provider- they're...
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Let me break it down like this:
T-Mobile is looking to enhance the user experience for their Android customers , but by doing so they're installing software that is going beyond its necessary functionality and providing useful tools that modify system behavior. (Honestly, folks, iOS4 and WebOS 1.4 don't need this kind of crap... and I think no decent mobile OS should.)
The problem is that T-Mobile isn't a software provider- they're...
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2.1 is not obsolete, neither is 1.6 and some phones still run 1.5. Most apps will run on all these versions. And we dont need to compare Apple to Android that argument is soooo old. I personally like to pick and choose what apps I want to run in the background and ones I do not, ones I like to keep open so I dont have to restart the app every time I want to use it. Its not a flaw or a setback, more of an advantage and more control. Its all about customizing.
Just because there is a built in task manager dosent mean you have to use it either, some people dont use one at all and say the phone and battery run just fine without it.
Just because there is a built in task manager dosent mean you have to use it either, some people dont use one at all and say the phone and battery run just fine without it.
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Quite honestly, this "choosing to run a task manager" bullcrap sounds to me like "choosing to run which Antivirus software" on your PC. It's very much a flaw and setback.
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the *only* time you need a task manager in android is when an app crashes and fails, that is the ONLY time. anyone who says otherwise hasn't used the handset for more than a week.
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I use my task manager all the time ... mostly to stop those pesky programs that start on their own ... like TeleNav (GRRRR) and crap like that. Otherwise you dont even need a task manager, theres an app manager built into android that lets you force close.
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You never cease to amaze with your knowledge (lack thereof?) of android.
First, Android doesn't need this software, most people who use it are misinformed and are likely to cause issues on their phones by forcing applications to close.
Second, The reason Android 2.2 is not supported by this software is that google hasn't officially released the OS(This includes the source), they released the SDK which is great for people who want to get a jump start on writing apps and testing them in the emulator. The fact that it exists outside of google and handset developers was because google released an early promo build for press units *only*, of course that was leaked.
Moving on, Android is and will continue to be a successful OS no matter ...
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First, Android doesn't need this software, most people who use it are misinformed and are likely to cause issues on their phones by forcing applications to close.
Second, The reason Android 2.2 is not supported by this software is that google hasn't officially released the OS(This includes the source), they released the SDK which is great for people who want to get a jump start on writing apps and testing them in the emulator. The fact that it exists outside of google and handset developers was because google released an early promo build for press units *only*, of course that was leaked.
Moving on, Android is and will continue to be a successful OS no matter ...
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First, I'm an owner of a Nexus One, and I think a task manager is (sadly) necessary with moderate usage, although I don't use it frequently. I think having to "force" applications to close is BS too.
Second, Android 2.2 is out. Here. Now. Google has already begun rolling it out officially.
Third, at least AT&T's app isn't going to become busted with when iOS 4 arrives. But before you whine about the "Jobs certified playpen" , why don't you stroll through the Android Marketplace and marvel at the crapplications. that make up Android's library. If there's iOS or even WebOS-grade developments, they aren't there. And AT&T's network (which by the way works great here, sorry to break you the news) is what my Nexus One run...
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Second, Android 2.2 is out. Here. Now. Google has already begun rolling it out officially.
Third, at least AT&T's app isn't going to become busted with when iOS 4 arrives. But before you whine about the "Jobs certified playpen" , why don't you stroll through the Android Marketplace and marvel at the crapplications. that make up Android's library. If there's iOS or even WebOS-grade developments, they aren't there. And AT&T's network (which by the way works great here, sorry to break you the news) is what my Nexus One run...
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again, froyo has not been OFFICIALLY rolled out to anyone other than owners of PRESS nexus one units. if you can show me one article giving proof of nexus one rolling out to a nexus one that isn't a press unit, and I will shut up; until then your argument is invalid.
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1. I never run a task killer on my "crappy" droid and I have no issues. I know countless people who are the same way.
2. It was released to several select press devices, and people can manually install it using an update.zip or from a rooted rom. It's not an offcial rollout, and more importantly, the stock source is NOT released, so HTC and Moto and the like don't officially have their hands on the source code (though we know they do have it)
You know, kind of how iOS4 was announced WELL before it's official release?
3. 2.2 isn't out yet. They've most likely been working on this app since BEFORE 2.2 was announced. They wanted the app out now, and will most likely have the 2.2 app prepped once 2.2 is out.
2. It was released to several select press devices, and people can manually install it using an update.zip or from a rooted rom. It's not an offcial rollout, and more importantly, the stock source is NOT released, so HTC and Moto and the like don't officially have their hands on the source code (though we know they do have it)
You know, kind of how iOS4 was announced WELL before it's official release?
3. 2.2 isn't out yet. They've most likely been working on this app since BEFORE 2.2 was announced. They wanted the app out now, and will most likely have the 2.2 app prepped once 2.2 is out.
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iDeNoh said:...
You never cease to amaze with your knowledge (lack thereof?) of android.
First, Android doesn't need this software, most people who use it are misinformed and are likely to cause issues on their phones by forcing applications to close.
Second, The reason Android 2.2 is not supported by this software is that google hasn't officially released the OS(This includes the source), they released the SDK which is great for people who want to get a jump start on writing apps and testing them in the emulator. The fact that it exists outside of google and handset developers was because google released an early promo build for press units *only*, of course that was leaked.
Moving on, Android is and will continue
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I still like my 2 year old G-1. The battery life sucks but the task killer makes it much better. The Nexus and Incredible are great but I'm going to keep using my G-1 until T-mobile comes up with something better. Hopefully by the end of the year. I want something better now but it seems like so much tech is so spread out that it all has to come together soon. This is my first post so thanks to the rest of you for teaching me stuff.
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1. It's lame, but iPhones were not all compatible with all updates, and this is ONE application. I recall that one "update" actually killed some people's unlocked phones.
2. If a 2.2 version comes out next week...? My guess is you will invent another argument.
3. Anyone who doesn't want their phone "going beyond its necessary functionality" probably wouldn't buy an Android phone.
4. "users must choose to either stick with obsolete software or not use this program" contradicts your previous assertion that software should not go "beyond its necessary functionality". Why do you dismiss this particular application, but express sympathy that someone might only have v2.1 instead of 2.2?
2. If a 2.2 version comes out next week...? My guess is you will invent another argument.
3. Anyone who doesn't want their phone "going beyond its necessary functionality" probably wouldn't buy an Android phone.
4. "users must choose to either stick with obsolete software or not use this program" contradicts your previous assertion that software should not go "beyond its necessary functionality". Why do you dismiss this particular application, but express sympathy that someone might only have v2.1 instead of 2.2?
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bluecoyote said:...
The problem with Android's development model is that the hardware and software is not on the same page, nor can it ever expect to be. Honestly, Developing for Android successfully is far harder than on any modern mobile platform, and T-Mobile's struggles already show it.
Let me break it down like this:
T-Mobile is looking to enhance the user experience for their Android customers , but by doing so they're installing software that is going beyond its necessary functionality and providing useful tools that modify system behavior. (Honestly, folks, iOS4 and WebOS 1.4 don't need this kind of crap... and I think no decent mobile OS should.)
The problem is that T-Mobi
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The problem here lies with the way this is being described in the article - THIS IS A BETA TEST for this piece of software. It is an attatchment only for the My Account application for t-mobile accounts, so other providers are of no concern here. As 2.2 is not available for general release on any T-Mobile branded handset, there is no reason to enable functionality - and the Nexus One is NOT a T-Mobile handset.
This program serves one singular purpose, to shut down applications that are not being used and have not been properly closed. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many call I get about system slowness that are resolved by educating the customer on closing applications. The average phone user has NO IDEA what to do with a smartphon...
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This program serves one singular purpose, to shut down applications that are not being used and have not been properly closed. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many call I get about system slowness that are resolved by educating the customer on closing applications. The average phone user has NO IDEA what to do with a smartphon...
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I'm not sure if that one does it. I use Taskiller myself. This one is just designed to be preinstalled for Joe Schmoe who has no clue what he's doing with the phone, and doesn't properly exit out of apps when he's done using them. This is the guy who calls us complaining that his phone is slow, when he just doesn't understand how he's supposed to use it. It'll hopefully keep the lines open for the calls that actually need to come in to tech care. I *really* wish this app enhancement would be put out for blackberry as well.
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If it's not out yet. Which it's not. Heck, the official "RC" release for the Nexus One isn't even out yet, let alone the source code for handset makers to work into sense/blur/touchwiz. So no, 2.2 isn't 2 months old, it's not even "born" yet. 2.2 was released over the air to a select few N1 users, not a general release.
You know, kind of how Steve announced OS4.0 before he announced the first phone to carry it, or before it's released to any existing device.
So tmobile isn't "Behind" on 2.2. No one is. Unless apple is behind on OS4 because it wasn't on devices the DAY it was announced.
You know, kind of how Steve announced OS4.0 before he announced the first phone to carry it, or before it's released to any existing device.
So tmobile isn't "Behind" on 2.2. No one is. Unless apple is behind on OS4 because it wasn't on devices the DAY it was announced.
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