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The difference between Google and Apple. . .

Jayshmay

Jun 9, 2010, 2:34 PM
Even Google allows other advertisers on Android, they were demonstrating some new advertising on future versions of Android, and they said even other advertisers can advertise here.

Not the case with Apple.
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 2:36 PM
Just not ones owned by competitors.
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Jayshmay

Jun 9, 2010, 2:39 PM
Umm, I guess you didn't see the demonstration @ Google I/O where they show this new advertising. It is by competitors, if they choose to put in their own advertisement.

Watch the video, it's on YouTube.
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 2:44 PM
I'm not sure which word you omitted reading my prior reply. Apple isn't banning 3rd party advertisers outright. Apple is entirely cool if someone else decides to sell ads.

They're banning Google and Microsoft from advertising on their platform because ads from both Google and Microsoft supporting Apple's developers are a conflict of interest in Apple's eyes.
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Jayshmay

Jun 9, 2010, 2:55 PM
Ohh, I get what your saying.
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RockTripod

Jun 10, 2010, 5:57 AM
It still reeks of Apple sleaziness. Its another one of those situations where I kinda get where Apple is coming from, but they are just jerks. Its another example of them stifling competition. I hope this bites them in the end.
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Menno

Jun 10, 2010, 4:22 PM
They're banning google and microsoft using analytics (track data) on ads that they display on the iphone.

And by blocking analytics, you're pretty much blocking advertising. Google sells ads per click, not like billboards.
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SellPhones82

Jun 9, 2010, 2:59 PM
Wouldn’t every mobile ad company be competition since Apple now has iAd?

Apple doesn’t make money if any other third party ad company is used in an app.

I think they are just starting to really feel the heat from Google and will try anything to slow them down.
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diggitydogg76

Jun 9, 2010, 3:48 PM
Thats about it right there!
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 4:23 PM
the answer to your question is right there in the language.

But to summarize: no. They're not talking about competing ad networks. They're talking about competing OS platforms.
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diggitydogg76

Jun 9, 2010, 5:49 PM
again ... for now
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 6:19 PM
👀
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Menno

Jun 10, 2010, 4:55 PM
Kind of like how apple revised their policy on what was acceptable for the app store.

Or how, at launch, itunes synced with other MP3 players and then suddenly couldn't.

Or how they changed their stance on cross compilers.

There is a precedent here.

And even for competing ad firms, apple controls WHAT they can get from their own ads. So if they don't want ad company a to know how many people clicked on their ad while playing farmville, APPLE, not the app maker (or ad maker) can decide that.
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dshearn

Jun 9, 2010, 5:20 PM
Yes

Its a conflict...... Since apple is in the add bussiness...

But its not a threat.....

Its a conflict for Apple to help google get ANY LARGER , since that they are rivals for market share.


I like this move by apple.


Would even be Funnier if Google did the same thing....

and took Apple Products Right out of the Google search Engine....
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 5:21 PM
They did with negative BP Publicity? 🤣
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dshearn

Jun 9, 2010, 5:25 PM
Did not know that....


Weird to think how a company can basically CONTROL information the way Google could be able to.
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VZW_insider

Jun 10, 2010, 1:23 AM
Just as an fyi off topic,

Google didn't remove negative BP publicity from it's search engine, BP BOUGHT all the top search criteria to link to their propaganda.

And before anyone says how evil Google is for allowing it, it's just business, BP paid the cash for the ad space, Google sold it. You can bet that if Steve Jobs thought selling the souls of the 5 year old malayasian kids who assemble his Iphones would make him more money he would, but then he would no one to build his phones.
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Menno

Jun 10, 2010, 4:36 PM
As stated, BP bought all the relative ad space for google search terms.

If you type in "oil spill" NONE of the results seem to be pro BP propoganda.

Maybe you should... google something before you try and make claims about what google shows?
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Mentat

Jun 9, 2010, 5:26 PM
If you read the terms it says

"3.3.9 You and Your Applications may not collect, use, or disclose to any third party, user or device data without prior user consent, and then only under the following conditions:"
- The collection, use or disclosure is necessary in order to provide a service or function that is directly relevant to the use of the Application. For example, without Apple's prior written consent, You may not use third party analytics software in Your Application to collect and send device data to a third party for aggregation, processing, or analysis.

- The collection, use or disclosure is for the purpose of serving advertising to Your Application; is provided to an independent advertising service provider whose primary...
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SellPhones82

Jun 9, 2010, 7:45 PM
What makes the info Greystipe collects from their ads (or iAd for that matter) any different or any safer than AdMod?

The funny part about Apple allowing Greystripe is that they use Adobe Flash along with HTML5 for their ads and Apple will continue to allow them to do so. So the iphone and ipad will kinda get Flash but only for ads 😢

I would love to hear Steve's reasoning for allowing "bad" Flash-ads on iOS but not "good" Flash like games and videos. When hes's getting paid Flash ads must not hurt battery life all of the sudden...crazy how that happens.

http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100607/adobe-tries ... »
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bluecoyote

Jun 9, 2010, 11:18 PM
1) That's the difference, and that's the only reason AdMob isn't allowed.

2) We're talking about in-app ads, not the web.

3) No the iPhone and iPod/iPad will not get Flash. The ads are shown with the frameworks built in to the iPhone/iPad OS but are not compiled to platform-specific code. That's no different than someone exporting a Flash file to MPEG-4. (That article is trying really hard but no this is nothing new.)
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Mentat

Jun 15, 2010, 11:24 AM
the reason Admob is denied is because they track personal information while you are within the apps, they aren't a "commercial" or "pop-up ad".
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