U.S. Gov Wants to Track Pre-Paid Phones
Just one more thing...
1). If you are conducting yourself legally, you have nothing to worry about.
2) This is already done with Postpaid. Why should Prepaid be exempt? If you are postpaid, I would be more upset that your info is tracked and info on prepaid customers is not.
I will be the first to admit that there are some stupid laws in place. This would NOT be one of them.
JB
Theyre not saying they want to be able to trace your phone and know where you are at any moment. But if there is a bomb threat made, they should be able to know who made that call. I watched the WTC fall and I lost some friends there....terrorism is no joke. I have no problem giving up some privacy so that something like that doesnt happen again
edzero said:
finally someone who agrees with me.
Theyre not saying they want to be able to trace your phone and know where you are at any moment. But if there is a bomb threat made, they should be able to know who made that call. I watched the WTC fall and I lost some friends there....terrorism is no joke. I have no problem giving up some privacy so that something like that doesnt happen again
Well there is Cuba and North Korea if you wish to go there.
The government doesn't care about listening to people talking about meaningless mumbo jumbo, they care about listening to people plotting to kill Americans, duh!!!
1. They may have nothing to worry about unless their name sounds funny or looks foreign. In other words this doesn't apply across the board.
2. Its about having options, if you take away the anonymity of prepaid, their is less options and less rights.
ill be glad to show my ID when i buy a phone rather than have people get away with kidnapping my daughter cause we cant track the owner of that phone number who called for ransom.
crammy1 said:
what rights?
ill be glad to show my ID when i buy a phone rather than have people get away with kidnapping my daughter cause we cant track the owner of that phone number who called for ransom.
So people with pre-paid phones are molesters? Always a bunch of fascists willing to give up freedom in the name of the state and safety.
More lives have been saved by wearing seatbelts. I fought for the right to have a choice NOT to wear a seatbelt in fear of enforcing such law would be unconstitutional. That changed when my life and more importantly my Nephew's was spared from certain death by buckling up. The car was totalled beyond recognition. We walked away with minor scratches.
Smoking in a bar or public accessed building forces individuals that do NOT smoke, not to have a choice.
I am realizing most that don't see this logic, are either ignorant or spoiled in having to have things their way all the time.
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Versed said:
it starts as one small gesure, then become far more involved. I don't want to give the government one more inch.
Agreed. It's all baby steps toward their goal of being able to monitor everyone every second of the day. People don't see the big picture. They are OK with it because they don't remember all the baby steps the government has already gone and are oblivious or simply don't care where it leads to.
Notice how every time the privacy/rights of the people in this country takes a hit, it's always for our protection? Shouldn't we have the right to choose what "protections" warrant government intervention and what protection we supply ourselves?
We're not even allowed to vote as...
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JB.
Look at all the government has been taking in the last 5 years. Look at other Marxist and socialist countries. We are loosing it one by one. And for the most part we a GIVING it to them!
Jayshmay said:
People only give up their rights when they committ a crime!
True but the vast majority didn't commit a crime and shouldn't be considered criminals till proven innocent.
What is the big deal?!?
I own a home and I have certain proceedures implemented to secure my home. I have the right to ask who is stepping on my property and why they are there. I have the right to employ the legal means to follow up on getting these answers. America is also my home as well as yours and the government has the right to know is in our home and how they are conducting themselves.
Your weakness to recognize small steps to protect your home, increases the strength for one to execute back door assaults.
As I asked in another post: if yo...
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I talk about the most meaningless mumbo jumbo when I'm on the phone, just passing time.
People only lose rights when they committ a crime.
Slammer said:
You are correct Jay. I like my my privacy and I like my freedom, but we are just talking about a simple rule in order to purchase a prepaid phone. No different than obtaining a postpaid phone.
Wrong, a post paid phone requires a credit check.
You are exhausting an immense amount of energy on something very miniscule.
Sounds good. But where will that stop? If we drop the speed limit to 20 mph. As if it saves just one life????
Come on. Where do the rights that our parents fought for in wars end? You can make any stupid argument about why it "could work" or is a "good idea". But the freedoms go one by one.
Researcher said:
There is the comment people use that reads something like...."if it saves just one life it is worth it"!
Sounds good. But where will that stop? If we drop the speed limit to 20 mph. As if it saves just one life????
Come on. Where do the rights that our parents fought for in wars end? You can make any stupid argument about why it "could work" or is a "good idea". But the freedoms go one by one.
"think of the children" is the other statement used to shove crap down one's throat too. I couldn't agree with you more.
I dont know what your background is in the wireless industry, but I have been selling post paid, and pre paid phones for a long time.
The two of you are making such a huge fuss over something that should have been in effect since the creation of prepaid phones. The government is not asking to run a credit check, nor is it taking any of your freedom away. It is simply making you put your name down when you buy that phone so that you can be identified as the phones owner. Like Slammer stated, its the same thing as buying a gun with cash, or a car without providing proof of insurance. I can not believe how stupid the two of you sound. "Oh its just a small step, soon they will take everything away from us"....
IT ...
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The Government is asking for a simple procedure to make Prepaid an equalization on par with acquiring Postpaid.
There is no need to tread deep waters when shallow waters are present.
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