Adobe Intros Flash Player 10.1 Pre-Beta for Android
I can't think of a single valid reason to put this on...
2) What is that playing at, 8fps? And you have to navigate away from the page to stop the video?
Ridiculous.
3 This is on a Nexus One, which features hardware acceleration. Its video quality performance is worse than an HTC Hero decoding H.264 video, *and* it's worse than an original iPhone, both of which have significantly less processing power under the hood but are running a far more optimized codec.
Quite honestly the feature I hope they introduce first is the ability to turn Flash off.
devilsmafia said:
Anything that you do on a smartphone murders your battery. 🤣
Whoa! Let's not talk so rationally, okay?
We all know it's only Flash which kills a phone's battery.
bluecoyote said:
is right around the corner. 🤣
Let us all know when it gets there. Eventually.
Lock up randomly.
Crash when loading CNN.com
Suffer memory leaks.
Get ridiculously hot when trying to watch an episode of "The Office"
Pity me. 🤣
bluecoyote said:
Drain its battery dry in 2 hours.
Lock up randomly.
Crash when loading CNN.com
Suffer memory leaks.
Get ridiculously hot when trying to watch an episode of "The Office"
Pity me. 🤣
The iPhone I used locked up while loading Phonescoop. It did it once. So I just KNOW all iPhones are POS.
But damn it I want the choice to do it. If I want to visit my favorite sites I should, I know it will drain my battery faster I don't care I have a charger. If I step on the gas so I can drive faster I should, it shouldn't slow down so it will save me gas. If I turn on my surround sound, my 41" HDTV, and have the microwave make me popcorn I should do it, I shouldn't be locked out of the entertainment to potentially save me a high electric bill.
Every choice has a consequence, good or bad. But I want those choices, and I know what it will cost. ...
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haha sorry that is spanish, but I just could not avoid posting because that is very popular in Mexico 🙂
All that does is:
1) Screw over developers by wasting resources on legacy platforms that won't ever work right.
2) Screw over users by telling them a solution is "good enough" for the time being, who have to endure 2 hour battery life if they want to watch YouTube.
That's the attitude behind Flash, is that it's "good enough for now" It's not about someone telling you what you can and can't do on your phone, it's about providing developers with a clear roadmap for what makes up the mobile experience.
bluecoyote said:
I'm not against choice. I'm against the justification for accepting half-ass quality development as being "open" and "about choice."
All that does is:
1) Screw over developers by wasting resources on legacy platforms that won't ever work right.
2) Screw over users by telling them a solution is "good enough" for the time being, who have to endure 2 hour battery life if they want to watch YouTube.
That's the attitude behind Flash, is that it's "good enough for now" It's not about someone telling you what you can and can't do on your phone, it's about providing developers with a clear roadmap for what makes up the mobile experience.
Okay, so it'...
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bluecoyote said:
As someone familiar with their track record, I think Adobe's definition of "Good Enough" is "Half Assed."
Right. You 'don't think they will'.
But you're not an software programmer. Hell, you're not even much of a poster.
Here's a helpful time-saving hint:
When you disagree with me, you're likely wrong.
bluecoyote said:
I am a software programmer.
Here's a helpful time-saving hint:
When you disagree with me, you're likely wrong.
And I'm James Tiberius Kirk.
You preach of how well Apple does things better. This maybe quite true and many won't dispute your beliefs, but historically, it hasn't mattered. Easy accessibilty without restrictions has always dominated over Apple's product focus. Now history is almost about to repeat itself once again. I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand this. Apple w...
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Anyway, here, read this and be educated!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-andy-rubin-it ... »
Second off, what Andy Rubin is saying is exactly why I'm saying Android is garbage- apparently phones are "Legacy" the minute they're sold. Hardware grows old, but that's why you plan for a product lifecycle, which he's essentially admitting they aren't doing very well for the device portfolio.
Apple's giving their phones a 1yr window and a 3yr development cycle. Looks like Android will be 12 months -at best- .
(On a side note, I think any guy who loves tech and is signing a contract (or at most over a one year contract) is doing it stupid. Even the iPhone updates at once a year, so you're re-signing anyway. Sign a 12 month contract, or go unsubsidized if you're someone who really cares about having the latest and greatest)
(I mean hell there still isn't a decent IM program for AIM)
It's also why there are far more iPhone developers seeing success with the platform (despite the supposed limits of Apple's curation) - it's easy to reach the entire iPhone platform, and development cycles are easily timed.
bluecoyote said:
1) Sites like Hulu (much of whose content is elsewhere on the web like at NBC and ABC, etc.) is insanely slow.
2) What is that playing at, 8fps? And you have to navigate away from the page to stop the video?
Ridiculous.
3 This is on a Nexus One, which features hardware acceleration. Its video quality performance is worse than an HTC Hero decoding H.264 video, *and* it's worse than an original iPhone, both of which have significantly less processing power under the hood but are running a far more optimized codec.
Quite honestly the feature I hope they introduce first is the ability to turn Flash off.
Apparently you haven't read Eric Zeman's review of Flash on ...
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bluecoyote said:
It's on his video. Go watch it sometime before posting some ridiculously off comment.
What? That you can't control the in-browser video because the buttons are too small? You don't think this will be addressed in the non-beta?
Get off your high horse.
I suspect you have no idea what you are talking about at all.
Flash supports the H.264 codec, however it's a wrapper format. That means rather than the OS natively decoding H.264, it's decoded by the Flash software acting as the middleman.
Yes Flash supports H.264. Most video content you see with the Flash wrapper is H.264. The issue is Flash as a Wrapper, which cuts battery life by about 70% from the Android demos compared to the same videos played natively.
http://www.24worldnews.com/adobe-flash-10-1-for-andr ... »
Is this entire argument over your head? Do you not even know what a wrapper format is? 🙄
It is equipped with hardware acceleration with H.264 video decoding
That is the line in the first article I linked you... notice the use of complex statements like "hardware acceleration with H.264"...
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player_10 ... »
H.264 video hardware decoding
Flash Player 10.1 introduces hardware-based H.264 video decoding to deliver smooth, high quality video with minimal overhead across mobile devices and PCs. Using available hardware to decode video offloads tasks from the CPU, improving video playback performance, reducing system resource utilization, and preserving battery life.
That is directly from Adobe them self.
Do you w...
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