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So is this really a benefit to Android, or is this something you're adding for the sake of it.

bluecoyote

Apr 28, 2010, 1:34 AM
Here's my cynical take on it:

I think it's stupid. I think Andy Rubin is stupid. This seems like it was done for the sole purpose to try and frame Apple's decision to not allow a proprietary 3rd party platform with a miserable track record in virtually every conceivable metric as an "evil" decision rather than actually make Android any better.

It reminds me of the people who called Apple evil for not supporting interchangeable audio DRM (it'd be a lot more 'open' if we used PlaysForSure!) instead of just thinking long term and I don't know... abolishing it.

I don't think anyone on the Android development team sees Flash as a viable platform for mobile content. (It ain't.) If they do it's a little ironic.

And uh Andy- Android is ...
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WernerCD

Apr 28, 2010, 1:22 PM
And guess what? Add something *VERY* popular to your phone and it makes it easier to develop for your phone.

I agree that certain aspects of flash aren't mobile-viable (Mouse-over interactions for example)... but there is *TONS* of flash stuff out there.

Like Hulu, mentioned in the article I think.

Add something that, with minor tweaking, can add *TONS* of features to your platform? They'd be stupid not too.

Or they'd be hypocritical like Apple.
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RockTripod

Apr 28, 2010, 3:19 PM
Werner, all this is true, but you forgot the most important part. bluecoyote doesn't like it. Therefore, it should not exist.
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WernerCD

Apr 28, 2010, 4:48 PM
Blue is not popular, so he should not exist?

I like where this is going...
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muchdrama

Apr 28, 2010, 9:40 PM
RockTripod said:
Werner, all this is true, but you forgot the most important part. bluecoyote doesn't like it. Therefore, it should not exist.


lol--Exactly. Bluecoyote: self-proclaimed Emperor of Mobile Technologies.
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bluecoyote

Apr 28, 2010, 5:07 PM
And In the mobile world Flash isn't popular at all.

Hulu's content is all H.264. They're already releasing H.264 versions of it. NBC, as a matter of fact, already has.
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WernerCD

Apr 28, 2010, 8:38 PM
is bigger than the Mobile world tho... and from a business perspective - it makes a *LOT* of sense to take something that's popular and add it to your product.

Guess what? Now those developers you have that *ALREADY* know how to program in flash? Wow... they now almost auto-magically know how to program for Android 2.2.

Guess what happened when C++ came out? It was a lot easier to learn for those who knew C.

Gee. Who would have thought it?

Add to that the ability to make minor changes to existing code and BAM! it works on the phone.

Minor changes = cheap = cost effective = *Gasp* Something businesses love.

But... I guess your right. No reason what so ever to use flash *rolls eyes*
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muchdrama

Apr 28, 2010, 9:42 PM
bluecoyote said:
And In the mobile world Flash isn't popular at all.

Hulu's content is all H.264. They're already releasing H.264 versions of it. NBC, as a matter of fact, already has.


When and if HTML5 arrives en masse, then we'll all evaluate it and bow down in reverence. Till then, Flash is king.
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muchdrama

Apr 28, 2010, 9:38 PM
WernerCD said:
And guess what? Add something *VERY* popular to your phone and it makes it easier to develop for your phone.

I agree that certain aspects of flash aren't mobile-viable (Mouse-over interactions for example)... but there is *TONS* of flash stuff out there.

Like Hulu, mentioned in the article I think.

Add something that, with minor tweaking, can add *TONS* of features to your platform? They'd be stupid not too.

Or they'd be hypocritical like Apple.


Oh, thank God for Werner. I was beginning to think rational thought had died on these forums.
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WernerCD

Apr 29, 2010, 2:33 AM
I graduate with my AA in computer programming real soon...

One of the *BIGGEST* things harped on is code re-usability and language adaptation.

Why is C/C++ still popular? Because you can use it *A N Y W H E R E* and get a good program.

umpteen years after it was old, it's still a cornerstone.

Learn it here... and when you learn it over there ----> you simply have to adjust minor things (normally) and BAM! success.

To think that the Mobile market should be left out of a large chunk of the internet IS stupid... and that a large chunk of trained programmers wouldn't benefit in a HUGE way by having the same language on a new platform...

You have to be very dense not to see the benefits.
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muchdrama

Apr 29, 2010, 8:51 PM
WernerCD said:


You have to be very dense not to see the benefits.



Unfortunately, we've got a few density issues on this forum.
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waldorfsalad

Apr 28, 2010, 5:49 PM
That must be why nobody wants an Android phone. Oh, wait... 😉
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muchdrama

Apr 28, 2010, 9:37 PM
bluecoyote said:
Here's my cynical take on it:

I think it's stupid. I think Andy Rubin is stupid. This seems like it was done for the sole purpose to try and frame Apple's decision to not allow a proprietary 3rd party platform with a miserable track record in virtually every conceivable metric as an "evil" decision rather than actually make Android any better.

It reminds me of the people who called Apple evil for not supporting interchangeable audio DRM (it'd be a lot more 'open' if we used PlaysForSure!) instead of just thinking long term and I don't know... abolishing it.

I don't think anyone on the Android development team sees Flash as a viable platform for mobile content. (It ain't.) If they do it's a little
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RockTripod

Apr 29, 2010, 10:07 AM
BTW, your profile is wrong. It should read "I always think I'm right."
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