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iDONT WANT IT

KMFS1

Mar 29, 2010, 5:24 PM
I don't really want one, but I am sure the fact that it is coming to Verizon will attract a lot of new customers and I will sell a ton of these. The only thing At&t has going for it now is the fact that they will have a new one first. People don't like to wait.
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:31 PM
I'm glad that they are FINALLY going elsewhere.

Now we can see if the poor performance truely is AT&T or if it's the actual phone.

The sad part is... they are finally going to Verizon now that Apple is losing mind-share. I have an iPhone and will get something else when my upgrade is due.
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Disrespect

Mar 29, 2010, 5:37 PM
I think this will be a good move for apple. Because some apple lovers have divorced their Iphone because of AT&T... I'm not saying that AT&T is bad but we all know you can't please every customer. So for those customers they can go fall back in love with their Iphone again but this time with AT&T. Knowing apple they were probably all along working to get all the "Apps" to transfer to the CDMA network with a either easy tool or just convert them themselves.

More people with a apple product. I think it will be good move for apple.

They will need to add something to this Iphone that will make it different then the AT&T version. Since the AT&T version can surf the web and be on a phone call at the sametime, the verizon version will have to...
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:44 PM
It'll be the same phone with a different antenna. Bet a solid nickle the only difference will be VZW at the top, and *MAYBE* VZW app section in the store.

I know Apple wants more customers. They see what the other phone makers are doing and can't be happy to see Android, Palm, 7, Blackberry, etc...

I got an iPhone last year because it was hands down the best phone out (Android on T-Mobile? Yeah... no thank you...). This year? 5 solid phone OS's to choose from.

Without doing *SOMETHING*, Apple is on a track to become stale and niche. What better way than to *FINALLY* open up to other carriers?

Still... good too see it happen... will be an interesting battlefield.
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bluecoyote

Mar 29, 2010, 6:04 PM
Are you talking about the one from the manufacturer that is about to go bankrupt?

Or the one without a decent web browser and a ridiculously out of date OS that has virtually no developer support?

Or the one that is SUPPOSED to be updated soon...er...eventually.... sort of... but only for some of the devices that run it and suffers from extensive fragmentation, poor application quality, second-rate hardware, and chronic unreliability?

Or the one that's getting phased out for an all-new OS that is copying from the iPhone's playbook?

And I don't know of a 5th....
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 6:42 PM
Palm~ Good OS. I'd think of getting it if it was on AT&T (Which I think I read it will be ths fall?). Their main problem was exclusive release on #3.

Android~ Chronic unrelaiblity? lol. I have one at work and have yet to have issues with it. I've seen ONE issue with a droid I've sold. Fragmentation IS a serious issue. I talk to people all day long both on and off work who love their droid/eric/moment/hero/etc...

7~ Yeah... I'm holding my breath... Alot depends on how Microsoft does it. Someone trying to out Apple Apple might be good or bad... can't know until it's released. Until then its conjecture and empty promises. Still competition tho.

Blackberry~ Meh on that one... still a major player although it's mainly for buisnesses. Sti...
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ShoopDaWoop

Mar 29, 2010, 7:02 PM
😲


I think blue got pwnt.
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Jayshmay

Mar 29, 2010, 11:15 PM
What was that one issue with a Droid you sold? THE Droid, or the Droid Eris?
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 9:38 AM
Guy brought back a Droid because it had an issue with constant rebooting. Just did a swap because it wasn't physically damaged or anything.
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 10:53 AM
The Moto Droid has some of the weirdest issues that I've ever seen. Some woman I was speaking with the other day had an issue with hers during which audio playback would speed up and slow down at random, for example. They don't happen too often, but they're weird when they do happen, from my experience.
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Jonathanlc2005

Mar 30, 2010, 12:38 AM
GOOD JOB.

yeah, i played alittle with the droid and i liked it. but i played with it to see what the evo is gunna be like.
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 9:49 AM
I'm on AT&T... so I'm waiting to see what other Droid phones come out this summer. Hopefully they aren't the bastardized versions like the Backflip otherwise I'll be a saaaaaad panda (and I'll have to out right buy a Nexus One or similar)
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:02 AM
There's about 100,000 + exciting things that have been happening on the iPhone if you've been paying attention.

I don't know about you, but slapping on a crappy keyboard isn't exciting. Adding features for the sake of adding features isn't exciting either.

Doubling a device's already class-leading speed is exciting. A copy+paste feature that actually works, can copy formatting, works consistently across applications is rather delightful as well. It's a big deal too- none of the platforms above offer any such solution.
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 10:08 AM
Keeping the same features with minor improvements isn't exciting.

Copy Paste is nice, but not world shattering. I've yet to have problems with it personally on the Droid (granted I don't use it day to day). *AND* Every... single... iPhone fanb, er, user... cried about how unimportant copy/paste was AND that "it's only a patch away". no difference on any of the other platforms. Better copy/paste is only a patch away on android/7/palm/bb...

Doubling the speed of the engine is nothing exciting. It's the same reason why the Wii is winning - speed isn't everything.

Apple refusing exciting applications (Skype, GMobile, Slingbox, etc) isn't exciting, it's crap.

Apple continuing to not be clear and concise on the app approval process i...
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 10:57 AM
Very well said. I'll never understand why so many people still insist on an iPhone. It's not as though it's YOUR phone. You're so locked down in terms of what you can do with it, unless you jailbreak it. I like being able to swap out virtual keyboards, replace stock apps with other ones, etc. If you don't like something about Android, then you can replace it. You don't have that freedom on iPhone.
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Azeron

Mar 30, 2010, 7:34 PM
It takes two fools to argue...
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 12:01 PM
Skype and Slingbox are approved by the way. Apple's approval process isn't perfect, but neither is Android's, and Apple's way closer to getting it right.

My sentiments about the Droid's keyboard are echoed in Engadget, Gizmodo, and Phone Scoop's reviews... for starters. Safe to say it's crap.

However you seem to think everyone who purchases an iPhone is just a "sheep." Hell, I actually own its biggest competitor, but I know the difference between a real benefit and a BS feature.

My guess is you'll own another iPhone once whatever platform you move to eventually fails.
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 12:30 PM
App store approval process right? How? Obscure rules that no one but Apple knows? Not allowing better options to the all holy apple options be made?

Skype and Slingbox were approved how long after the initial apps were submitted? What about GVMobile? Other apps that have been denied for little or no reason?

I like the Droid keyboard... and the onscreen keyboard. *AND* for those who don't like it... they have two more options: Eris and Devour. (or Moment, hero, G1, MyTouch, Evo, etc).

Options for iPhone? New. older. oldest. Don't like those options? Too bad... daddy jobs says that's whats trendy. The faster processor and bigger hard drive and the new copy/paste feature are good enough for you.

I believe that most people are sheep....
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 12:34 PM
"I like the Droid keyboard... and the onscreen keyboard. *AND* for those who don't like it... they have two more options: Eris and Devour. (or Moment, hero, G1, MyTouch, Evo, etc)."

Not only that...if the amazing HTC virtual keyboards aren't good enough, then there are plenty of downloadable keyboards for Android devices. 🙂
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 2:13 PM
Sentiments on Droid keyboard:

Engadget:
We're happy to report, however, that after a short adjustment period, typing on the DROID is a reasonable experience. It's not as slick or comfortable as a nice, portrait-oriented Tour or (better yet) Bold layout, though it bests the CLIQ, and holds its own against other landscape contenders like the Moment.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/motorola-droid-re ... »

Phonescoop:
Didn't like the keyboard. 1 outa three isn't terrible I guess.

Gizmodo:
The keyboard is okay. I liked it a lot more on Day 1 than I do today, and that's because I never got any faster. The problem is that the key landscape is too flat and homogenous—a necessary sacrifice for Droid's remarkable skinnines...
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 10:51 AM
To be fair, fragmentation on Android is primarily an issue due to developers. You'll still find too many applications that either don't include support for certain hardware or make the mistake of only supporting certain hardward. For instance, some apps require a hardware keyboard.

Google's done a pretty good job of making most of its applications available on 1.6 and 2.x, so it's really in the hands of the manufacturers of the devices to not release anything that has 1.5 (or older) running on it. I honestly just wish that certain hardware manufacturers would make it easier to root phones. I'm still waiting for my Eris to be rootable. Not that I won't wait patiently for the official 2.1 release, but it'd be nice to be able to update it on...
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SpaceMonkeyzrus

Mar 29, 2010, 5:33 PM
I work for at&t retention. This move of carriers (if its for real) is going to make my job so much more difficult
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murmermer

Mar 29, 2010, 5:34 PM
BWAhahaha, I have a few friends that work for AT&T mobility telesales. I bet your Job SUCKS!!!!
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:36 PM
well... if anything, you can talk about how much better the network is now that a part of the Apple Network Hogs have moved to Verizon (and most likely Sprint as well via Unlock/Jailbreak).

You can also point out that Verizon sill has no Talk+Data (unless they are seriously pushing LTE by the end of the year like they said they would).
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KMFS1

Mar 29, 2010, 5:44 PM
Talk+Data comes in handy maybe %2 of the time. I don't really think that this will be a driving factor in making a decision on carriers. Who knows though, Apple maybe making a CDMA phone for the first Verizon LTE phone. If you read the WSJ article then you will see they are just making the phones in Sept, it gives no release date.
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:49 PM
would be the *ONLY* thing that would actually give me pause enough to think of staying with an iPhone.

Granted... my neck of the woods would be last in line for LTE, and I would also hold out for a jailbreak as a personal requirement...

Otherwise... meh. What's to be excited about with an iPhone? How have they changed in the last 3 years?
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iDontcare

Mar 29, 2010, 10:02 PM
The funny thing is they haven't changed much in the past 3 years, yet it's still the number one phone to be imitated or mimic'ed as a model for other manufacturers.
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 10:10 AM
The iPhone is a solid phone. Success breads copy-cats.

But it's also... stale. Without customization (this side of jail-breaking).

*BUT* The competition *HAS* paid attention and everyone has stepped up their game. Everyone is making good stuff. Each with strengths and weaknesses for sure, but it's all fairly good quality.

God bless good competition.
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Azeron

Mar 30, 2010, 7:36 PM
Great post.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 9:36 AM
talk-data is great, I use it when I'm on the irc and talking.
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