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iphone for verizon???

imchavez

Mar 29, 2010, 5:28 PM
really, do people really want an iphone on verizon cdma networks?? wasnt the "droid" supposed to be their flagship phone???? perhaps they are having the same reaction i had after seeing wirefly's droid and tmo's hd2 comparison. tmobile is really headed in the right direction, keep up the good work.
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:34 PM
What innovation has the iPhone brought to the market in the last year or two? Better compass support? Copy/Paste? Better obfuscation of their app approval process?

While Google has it's problems, Apple has shaking in their boots at the amount of market share Android is gobbling up.

Unless you consider the loss of talk + data a selling point, this is simply Apple reacting to lost mind-share.
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murmermer

Mar 29, 2010, 5:48 PM
REALLY???? you honestly think the Droid will be Verizon's flagship phone all the way till next Christmas?

talk about beating a dead horse, everyone who wanted the Droid would of already had one. If you notice Apple pays for its own commercials and AT&T has commercials about its other products. I think Verizon will hype the hell out of a CDMA iPhone so they can steal a boatload of AT&T customers that aren't happy with AT&T in major cities.
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I am predicting (IMO) that Verizon will get the iPhone. Verizon will be unprepared for the shear amount of data usage new iPhone users are going to be requesting of the CDMA carriers network and all of the sudden AT&T won't look so bad any more. Verizon's bac...
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trenen

Mar 29, 2010, 5:55 PM
All this sounds like more bunk. Why on Earth would VZW premier an iPhone on their CDMA network when they will begin touting 4G LTE? I believe (and feels logical) that when the iPhone comes to VZW it will be LTE.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 8:21 AM
Because its going to take them several years before they reach saturation, I don't see one tower with LTE right now in the NY Metro, or Philadelphia Metro areas, I doubt if its up anywhere else outside of test sites. Apple and for the most part many other companies upgrade their devices at least once a year. There will be no problems with a CDMA iPhone being sold, and they will sell at least 20 million of them inside a year.
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 2:15 PM
it would actually make sense for them to launch a pre-lte version. That way they can get all the "i need an iphone" people to snap it up and then a year later release an LTE model and get the same people to snap it up again.

and a good chunk of those 20million would come from att iphone users, so it's really false churn.

I'm not denying that the iphone will sell well, and that marketing will push it. but I don't think it will be the "we have the IPHONE (and a couple other ok phones)" like it is for ATT right now. The droid marketing push is the closest VZW's gotten to that, and they still push other phones.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 3:06 PM
I think for the first month or so, they will behave just that way, and I don't blame them. The LTE idea would be a great idea, dunno how it will play out?
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 5:57 PM
Well... alot depends on if Apple actually does anything exciting for the iPhone...

Because by December if it's upgraded Droid vs upgraded iPhone, with the same features on both sides? Droid (or whatever the new phone is called) will still be better, IMO.

6-9 months from now tho, your right... Apple could actually do something to get that top spot back... otherwise, it'll just be the same ignorant sheep following the masses on their quest to Think Differently.

I'm personally hoping your right, about all of it. It's gonna be one of the few fun things to watch for sure.
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bluecoyote

Mar 29, 2010, 6:19 PM
So in your opinion, someone who purchases an iPhone because of something like application quality, faster web browser, better web browser, better on-screen keyboard, multitouch, better user interface, better memory management, better media player, consistent OS improvements, or hell- usablecopy and paste that, is an "ignorant sheep following the masses?"

Is this because Verizon tricked you into buying a "flagship phone" that was made obsolete on its own platform within 40 days of being released? Laughing
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 6:33 PM
I have an iPhone... and can't wait to get rid of it now that there is serious competition.

Application Quality~ Have you used the apps on the app store? 300 fart apps isn't something to be proud of. Droid and Palm have comparable app stores, with fully functional apps comparable to the iPhone store.

Better web browser? Subjective to say the least... I can visit the same websites on a Droid phone, with the same look and feel.

On-Screen Keyboard? Droid, Moment, etc... all have very comparable screens, keyboards PLUS the option of a *REAL* keyboard.

User interface? Best? Seriously? It's a simplified interface that my grandma can use, for sure... but also removes *ALOT* of customization and functionality.

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retrocool

Mar 29, 2010, 9:43 PM
Wow, 300 fart apps? I have GOT to get me one of those!

Laughing
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:16 AM
Do you really own an iPhone? I don't think you do.


1) Really? No offense but if you think Palm has a comparable App store you're delusional- I own AND develop for a Pre and it's downright lonely in there. Same with Android- try to find a decent IM or Twitter client for Android. They're all crap.

2) No it's not subjective. Android's browser is trash. Its javascript performance is downright impotent next to the iPhone's. Palm's is a little better but even my Pre runs into sites it can't manage (CNN.com for that matter.)

3) The on-screen keyboard on Android is near useless, and can't register simultaneous presses. (also hurting is the dumb idea to put silkscreened buttons below it.) Not to start on the inferior keyboard accuracy, but...
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 10:21 AM
I own an iPhone 3GS 32GB. Got it right after they came out.

Palms (and other) app stores don't have as many apps, for sure. BUT all of the 'core' apps are there. I have a droid and a pre at work that I play with, and have no issues with either.

I've also not had issues surfing on either phone. Maybe I'll try a more diverse set of web pages to see... but I've been happy with both - and more than enthusiastic to sell either.

Copy/Paste is only a patch away. That's what iPhone users cried for the 2 years+ it took apple to implement that "easy" feature. *rolls eye*

If I'm surfing, while listening to internet radio I do so at the risk of stuttering. The same applies to if I choose to use Torrent while playing Counter Strike. But at le...
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 2:27 PM
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Twitter: How exactly are Seismic, Hootsuite, and Touiteur crap?
IM: MeeboIM. Connects to all major services, and is a breeze to navigate.

2. my phone has no issues going to CNN, even the desktop version of the site. the only javascript issues I run into are when i get errors on my phone telling me that "javascript is not enabled on my safari browser." meaning those sites were coded for safari specifically.. what would steve say? "lazy developers."

3. Accuracy is fine. Auto correct works wonders for fast typing. True multi-touch keyboard your thing? Get Smart Keyboard Pro. Full multi touch support, and you can even skin it to look like your iphone keyboard.

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murmermer

Mar 30, 2010, 3:16 PM
The iPhones browser is one of the best browsers on the market, not only in speed but in features.

http://www.gsmarena.com/browser_shootout-review-448.php »
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 3:19 PM
They tested Dolphin (multi-touch browser) on a device that does not have the hardware to support multi touch.. I should listen to them why?
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murmermer

Mar 30, 2010, 3:44 PM
LULZ... Embarassed

I may have missed that part, my bad
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Overmann

Mar 30, 2010, 11:49 AM
I'm not the masses following sheep, since I run one of the least popular smartphones out lately...

I'm running Windows Mobile 6.5! DUN DUN DUN

Multitasking? Yes.
Copy-Pate? Yes.
MMS? Yes.
aGPS? Yes!
File Management? Very Yes!
Install apps on your Removable Memory Card? YES!
Download and/or Install whatever the heck you want? Very Yes!
Customize the OS to your liking? You better believe it!
The ability to create Office Documents on the phone without having to buy Documents to Go? Most excellently!

And much more that I haven't listed. Sure, WM has its flaws, but the fact that it can do just about anything, long as you have an app for it, is right by my book.

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revAnDroid

Mar 29, 2010, 6:38 PM
Because it truly would! People buying those devices only do so because it's the in thing to do! I'd just like to point out that there are always going to clever marketing out there for both sides in big competitions. E.g.: AT&T vs. Verizon, iPhone vs. Everything else. People are TOLD that the iPhone is the fastest, best, yadda yadda yadda. I like my rooted G1 better than the iPhone I had. I'm not stuck with the same memory capacity, if my battery goes to crap I don't have to send it in and be without a phone, I could just get a new battery. There are tradeoffs for everything. Just sayin.
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snowbdr89

Mar 29, 2010, 7:13 PM
ill take my hero over n iphone anyday!! oh yeah not to mention the soon to be released htc evo Very Happy
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revAnDroid

Mar 29, 2010, 7:41 PM
Oh yeah. I feel like as time goes along, the Android devices get better and better.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 8:33 AM
And fragmented. Heck there are apps that won't work, or even show up in the market unless you're 1.6 and above.
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 11:07 AM
Blame developers, not Android.
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revAnDroid

Mar 30, 2010, 1:19 PM
Agreed. The Android OS isn't at fault for Dev's putting in faulty apps.
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murmermer

Mar 30, 2010, 3:01 PM
yea, because your 128MB for apps is anywhere comparable to the iPhones 32GB... Laughing Laughing
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revAnDroid

Mar 31, 2010, 2:48 PM
HAHA wow, funny that you have your 32 GB for your iphone, and all my apps are on a memory card which is *gasp* INTERCHANGABLE without the help of Apple. I'll take my Android where I have the option to change battery and memory capacity as I please. Enjoy your lamephone.
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murmermer

Apr 1, 2010, 12:15 AM
You can't load apps on a memory card on Android... So if you hacked your android then you would have to compare it to an unlocked iPhone- that is a whole new bag of hurt for Android
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tbacba

Mar 29, 2010, 7:36 PM
...someone who purchases an iPhone because of something like application quality, faster web browser, better web browser, better on-screen keyboard, multitouch, better user interface, better memory management, better media player..

all true -- circa 2007. Laughing
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 11:09 AM
Oh, but haven't you heard? The copy and paste is amazing! Laughing

Seriously, iPhone's next commercial should center around bluecoyote trying to use anything that isn't an iPhone, screaming, "WHY CAN'T I COPY AND PASTE?!" Angels then descend from above with an iPhone on a pillow. Rolling Eyes
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Kayslay34

Mar 30, 2010, 11:39 AM
bluecoyote said:
So in your opinion, someone who purchases an iPhone because of something like application quality, faster web browser, better web browser, better on-screen keyboard, multitouch, better user interface, better memory management, better media player, consistent OS improvements, blockquote>

What are you talking about, i can name a phone that nest all of that except for applications. Palm Pre, way faster than iphone, Faster browser, Better web browser (flash support) same keyboard and a physical one. What media management, you cant remove your media. Not to mention the old iphone cant do what the new ones can. Also it took 3 years to get copy and paste and picturemail and video recording. Yes most iphone us
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Menno

Mar 29, 2010, 9:37 PM
I'm not saying it doesn't have it's uses, but it's not this dealbreaker that people are pushing.

It can be a deal breaker for some people, but what do you think the average consumer will notice first:

1) that they can't listen to Pandora while browsing facebook and Jimmy with his android/blackberry/WINMOclassic can.
2) That sometime last tuesday they had to wait until they hung up with their mother to go find the location of the gas station.

Seriously, "talk and surf" at the same time wasn't even MENTIONED until Verizon started with their 3g coverage campaign. if it was that ground breaking of a feature, ATT (and tmo) would advertise the crap out of it as soon as they launched their 3g networks.
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retrocool

Mar 29, 2010, 9:46 PM
I agree, talking while surfing is overrated. The waves are usually so loud the other guys can't hear what I'm saying.

I prefer to wait until I'm done, and then share surfing experiences on the beach over a weenie roast. Much, much easier.
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Jayshmay

Mar 29, 2010, 9:49 PM
Dear I ask, what a weenie roast is?
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retrocool

Mar 29, 2010, 9:51 PM
Hot dogs roasting over an open fire on the beach. Longtime beach tradition best enjoyed at night.
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Slammer

Mar 29, 2010, 9:57 PM
It could also describe Tigar Wood's women only party.
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Azeron

Mar 29, 2010, 10:27 PM
Man that was a low blow. Ouch!
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:23 AM
Have you ever been on hold for 20+ minutes?

Have you ever had someone send you an email on the phone and then ask if you got it? Or sent you a PDF proof and asked you what you think over the phone while you're away from your desk? I have.

Ever been on the phone with someone and sent them a picture ("Is this the right one to buy?") I have.

Ever been on the phone and had someone send you directions? I have.

Not even possible on Verizon's network. AT&T might not've mentioned it until Verizon started their 3G wars (Verizon didn't seem to mention their 3G coverage until they lost a lot of smartphone subscribers)

It's totally useful. And if I want to listen to music while browsing facebook I uh... oh right, have an iPod right ther...
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Vipermad

Mar 30, 2010, 5:52 AM
For those who have not had it...it may be overrated...but once you have it and get used to it, you're hooked.
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acculabs

Mar 30, 2010, 7:05 AM
Given the choice of that feature on a crappy nework vs one where phone calls tend not to drop, guess which one I am going to choose?
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 11:56 AM
Should be obvious. Lucky for me, AT&T drops my calls less than Sprint OR Verizon. Oh, their data is about twice as fast.
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murmermer

Mar 30, 2010, 3:09 PM
Crappy network? Last I check Verizon had a worse network than AT&T...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/189592/atandt_roars_b ... »
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 1:16 PM
1. yes, It's called a magazine. Typically when I call a place I'm being put on hold I'm either at my house or at some place with other people. Both places do not require me to doodle on my phone. Oh, but if I really wanted to, I could boot up a game and play that.

2. No, they say "I'm sending you a file, let me know if you've gotten it." If it's vitally important I get it, I'm near a computer.

3. Nope. Never had a reason to. See, how it works is I get a call to pick up something, then I go to the place and either call them up to confirm or send them the picture to confirm

4. It's not possible on ATT's network either. Here's the rub, I don't live in a city. I don't live in the country either, but I'm in an area that ATT do...
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 4:12 PM
1. Oh awesome, is the Magazine strapped to your Droid? Rolling Eyes

2. Hey why the need for mobile email? You've got a computer. Rolling Eyes .

3. So in other words, you need to make two phone calls and wait for a picture to send to do what an iPhone user can do with one. Rolling Eyes

4. I live in a small town and I have full ATT 3G coverage. So do all the nearby small towns. Maybe it's not possible for you, but it is for me.


You might've been better off and just not replied. Laughing
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 4:43 PM
I'm replying with the same quality as you blue. instead of using anything rational, I am using my own opinion... kinda like how you write off anything android can do as "not really needed." For me, talk and surf is overrated, as it is for most people. I asked 10 different people who have iphones how often they use it. only 4 knew what I was talking about (before the new ad campaign) and of those, only 2 used it with any frequency.


1. no, I have an ebook reader on my phone. and as I said, 90% of the time I'm on hold I'm somewhere with other distractions. I try not to call customer service when I'm sitting in a park. think of the last 5 times you were on hold. For me it was:
1. at home
2. at home
3. at work
4. in the car
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mkl4466

Mar 30, 2010, 8:54 PM
For the average American cell phone user talk plus surf is unnecessary. We don't have enough attention span for those two activities simultaneously, considering we are usually doing something else while we talk anyway. Surfing the web would be task number three.
Plus there's still a negative stigma surrounding anyone self important enough to carry on a conversation in public with a Bluetooth or heaven forbid on speaker, which are about the only two ways you could see your screen while talking on the phone. I think most of us still think hands free belongs in the car, and we definitely don't need to be browsing the web while talking while driving.
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Azeron

Mar 30, 2010, 8:42 PM
Here's the thing... Laughing at your own jokes does not make them funny. CREATING an alter ego to laugh at your own jokes doesn't cut it either. We'll be the judge of whether you are funny or not and for the record...you're not.
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Jayshmay

Mar 30, 2010, 5:17 PM
Check it out fellow Droider!!! I certainly hope that if you already knew this you would have told me.

It's OFFICIAL, no more waiting!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/30/verizon-to-start- ... »
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 5:20 PM
I saw that. Still not going back to stock until I know that it doesn't cripple rooting.

How are you handling android Jay? Any questions? comments?
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Jayshmay

Mar 30, 2010, 5:45 PM
As you may know, this is my first touchscreen phone. Well the touchscreen has had me pissed off recently!!!

I hit the home button, or the back button, and it launches an app! I gave up on the lock pattern b/c the touchscreen was misreading my pattern entries, so I use the slide lock instead.

These touchscreen misreads are really frustrating! And this guy I spoke with @ a Vzn store told me there isn't any calibration option with Android which is really strange.
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 5:49 PM
hitting the home key launches an app?

Did you have a tech look at it and confirm it.. it shouldn't do that. I would have them look. if it is an issue with the phone, you should be able to get a new one shipped from amazon
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Jayshmay

Mar 30, 2010, 5:59 PM
I kinda wonder if the blue snap-on case that I put on effected the touchscreens sensitivity.

I recall you saying that the only thing the 2.1 update will effect is shortcuts on my homescreen , but what about all the apps I've downloaded thus far? I certainly hope I don't have to re-d/l a bunch of stuff!

Live wallpapers will be cool!
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 6:03 PM
if you wait for the Official OTA nothing should be lost.. possibly not even your shortcuts.

covers can effect sensitivity because it changes the angle you hit those bottom buttons at.
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bluecoyote

Mar 29, 2010, 6:07 PM
Hint: none.

Oh yeah, speaking of Copy+Paste- the iPhone's actually good at it. Droid isn't.
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WernerCD

Mar 29, 2010, 7:14 PM
Turn by Turn directions via Google Maps... that you *DON'T* have to purchase as an add/seperate program/monthly fee.

Multi-tasking beyond the OS supplied stuff (Granted, this is done by pretty much everyone but Apple...)

Ability to get apps WITHOUT having to get parents permission (Aka App store approval process).

Plus other stuff... that may not be "innovations" per-se... But other than fragmentation (Android 1.0, 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1... ) Android has a solid lineup of options, carriers and choices beyond "newest, older, oldest". They have a very valid option to what was the top dog. Palm does as well...

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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:48 AM
Name an Android handset on the market today that you think surpasses the iPhone and I'll happily explain to you why a phone with lower specs handily beats it. Android is a platform of 50 bad answers up against a platform of one good answer.

As proof- every single Android "answer" to a problem with the iPhone's platform is a problem in and of itself.

Android allows 3rd party apps to run in the background, but application performance and battery life noticeably decreases. They allow 3rd party apps to manage multiple apps- many of which interfere with vital OS functions. Oops.

They offer 4 times the pixel count of the iPhone's screen... only to display the same information density but requiring the processor to work 4 times as hard...
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bp3dots1

Mar 30, 2010, 7:17 AM
The Samsung Moment covers all of those. As far as I'm concerned the HTC Hero does as well. The problem with discussing it with you is that you are so blinded by your love of the iPhone, that you can't speak objectively about other platforms. When It comes down to it, there are things that both OS's do better than the other, so people need to find which offers more benefits for them.
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 12:02 PM
And yet I own a competing handset to the iPhone and develop for it as well? In fact, I've made a significant investment in a competing platform.

If you actually read my arguments instead of dismissing them as the work of an "Apple fanboi" your reply would be a little less ridiculosu.
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bp3dots1

Mar 30, 2010, 12:36 PM
I have read your arguments. Too many times. You say about about what you FEEL and not much about facts, and even the things other people feel are important, you dismiss because they contradict with your personal opinion. As someone who owns and develops for other platforms, I would expect more unbiased opinions of them, but you prove over and over that you really only like iPhone's OS. And whenever anyone disagrees with you, or points out facts that contradict your opinions, you cliam they're calling you a "fanboy."

I can understand you having the opinion that iPhone is best, but that is an opinion.
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Slammer

Mar 30, 2010, 8:45 AM
Blue, What's with the persistent crusade for Apple? The undeniable stability and quality of Apple's product line is widely known and generally never questioned. But what market share of the world favors the alternative? Most of my colleagues as well as other people in this world, DO NOT hate Apple's products, but rather Apple itself. Steve Jobs' dictation and control to become the most powerful person in the world, is only interested in building revenue by creating a cult of followers. Why else would they purposely lock down their devices only to open a few more new items with every additional issue? Smart? Yes definitely.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 9:16 AM
You can be a multibillionare with high share profits for your corporation with 60 billion or so in the bank, with 6% of a large market.
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WernerCD

Mar 30, 2010, 11:56 AM
Bingo. My feelings exactly. They had the greatest phone out last year... *LAST* year...

Now the competition has caught up, and in various ways (depending on platform) surpassed the iPhone.

I'll buy the best product. Sometimes even if I dislike the company that sells it.

Other companies have better offers, in my not so humble opinion.
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 12:09 PM
Actually, my job is to correct such dumb statements as:

" Steve Jobs' dictation and control to become the most powerful person in the world, is only interested in building revenue by creating a cult of followers. "

The platform I'm most invested in isn't the iPhone- it's the Palm Pre. But at the same time I'm not dumb enough to buy into a lot of the crap the iPhone's detractors have claimed. I'm rather miffed that it's the ONLY viable mobile development platform- Android is still in "beta" until they actually come up with a decent SDK, and Palm doesn't have the revenue to compete.

But rather than dismiss Apple's actions as simply monopolistic or solely profit driven, you need to understand the smartphone landscape. Apple is addressi...
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murmermer

Mar 30, 2010, 3:23 PM
Agreed, it sounds more like they are trying to talk themselves into their devices than it is to sell us on Android... besides Mapquest offers free TbyT directions that are comparable to google maps.

What kills me is that if you look at the Nexus one
the screen resolution is a meager 653 x 392. Even though the resolution is higher it still has lower quality than the iPhone- look at side by sides of the devices both inside AND outside. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/s ecrets-of-the-nexus-ones-screen-science-color -and-hacks.ars/

Camera- No matter how many pixels they cram into an Android device they still come out off color and washed out.

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WernerCD

Mar 31, 2010, 9:47 AM
Apple phones *ARE* good quality. When I got mine last year, it was the best phone by a clear mile.

I'm not saying Apple makes a bad phone *BUT* I dislike Apple as a company and their policies almost unanimously.

I don't buy Sony for the same reasons. They make good quality products. But they have done stuff, as a company, that I disagree with. They have lost my money - as long as their is competitor with a reasonable item. TV, Console, etc etc.

The only reason I got the iPhone was... because there was nothing close to it. Nothing. A few decent WinMo phones were okay, but nothing even came close.

This year is different. While it can be argued that Apple is better than this, that or the other - the package as a whole is, even if be...
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Menno

Mar 29, 2010, 9:30 PM
1. OS level Voice search, search online, search the phone, search within an app.
2. OS level Voice to Text in.. pretty much everything.
3. "shopper" apps that let you take a picture of an item and find it online
4. OS level Google Talk integration, allowing you to automatically use your GV number without having to go into the app itself.
5. For that matter, allowing apps to completely replace core parts of the OS so that you can further customize the device to your specifications.
6. Free GPS navigation.
7. Enforcing a 24hr "test period" for app store purchases, allowing you to try out an app before committing to it.
8. Making OTA syncing a standard, and not charging $100 for it.
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:31 AM
1.2.3. - None of which offer any benefits to the platform vs. 3rd party apps. Pathetic.

4. Still of no significance.

5. Not a Droid innovation, something it even does well, or offers support for. Call me when it does at least one of them.

6. Already done (Blackberry for sure)

7. Already done (Palm gets the credit here) though theirs was not mandatory, their refund policy allowed it.

8. RIM did it before, only without the massive privacy violations.

9. If it's fragmented than it's a moot point. You advertise Android a single platform because it still isn't. And that's not even an Android thing- WinMo stunk at it long before Android.
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justfinethanku

Mar 30, 2010, 10:15 AM
I love my iPhone to death, but I miss my Android for one reason and one reason only, its google sync.

I used to be able to add a calendar event on my phone and have it automatically sync with my computer, my girlfriends phone and anyone else who was linked to my calendar. I could update from my computer, my phone, my girl could add events and it all just synced.

Also, the online storage of contacts was nice.

Is there an app that does that on iPhone?
because I want that app!!!!
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 12:10 PM
MobileMe does that! It's $100.00/yr . It's not free, but Apple also won't publish your contact list randomly.
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justfinethanku

Mar 30, 2010, 5:23 PM
Will it do the calendar sync thing though????? specifically google calendar, I love it.
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 1:08 PM
1,2,3.. yes, because being able to hit a button in ANY app and transcribe or search for something is TOTALLY THE SAME THING as having to go into an app, talking what you want at it, and then copying it, going into the app you want to use it in, and pasting it. Pathetic.

4. You have no idea what you're talking about with this one. Please read up on Google talk and even better: Look up reviews by Iphone users switching to android that mention it. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM lists it as one of their favorite features.

5. Actually it does it very well. I don't use my default messaging app at all.

6. No it's not. Blackberry's navigation was a glorified Mapquest. ANdroid's navigation is a GPS system with audible turn by turn direc...
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Azeron

Mar 30, 2010, 8:24 PM
Technical knock out.

I'm going to call you the next time he slips out of his leash.

Nice job.
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Azeron

Mar 29, 2010, 10:05 PM
Seriously. You are pathetic. Do you have to snipe at every device that is not an iphone ALL the time? It is getting tiresome.
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iDontcare

Mar 29, 2010, 10:10 PM
LOL are u serious? There's like a 500/1 hate/praise ratio for the iPhone on this site. If anything I'd like to see it the other way around. If the iPhone is such garbage why do the haters have to constantly reference it?
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Menno

Mar 29, 2010, 10:16 PM
Azeron was referencing one poster. Not posters in general.

Reading = Comprehension

-Sent from my Droid
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phonegnome

Mar 29, 2010, 10:21 PM
There is sufficient evidence that you are bluecoyote with a name change. The resemblance is uncanny.
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Azeron

Mar 29, 2010, 10:41 PM
Wow! That explains the man love! I looked at his profile and it is five days old and there is a post defending bluecoyote? Hmmmmmmm...
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phonegnome

Mar 29, 2010, 10:52 PM
There can be no doubt. When one becomes out numbered, they fabricate an illusion of gang membership.
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Azeron

Mar 29, 2010, 10:34 PM
You are barking up the wrong tree. I absolutely LOVE the iphone. I had a number of posts clamoring for the iphone on Verizon. It is not about iphone hate, but rather bluecoyote and his never ending crusade against every other carrier and every other device. Who are you anyway? His big brother?

Speaking of which...

Anyone seen Scott? He is probably on cloud nine somewhere...
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bluecoyote

Mar 30, 2010, 1:34 AM
What the hell are you talking about?

As one of the few members of phone scoop with an IQ and credit score in the triple digits it's my job to set the record straight on crap.

I defend good products and bash crappy products. It's as simple as that.
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 11:21 AM
Yes, because IQ and credit score are key indentifiers as to how knowledgeable someone is about technology. There's a little something called common sense that I've seen plenty of "intelligent" (in the IQ sense) people lacking.
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Menno

Mar 31, 2010, 10:17 AM
So was it your triple digit credit score or IQ that led you to reference articles to back up your claim that say opposite what you imply.

Oh, and Credit Score goes from 350-850 (FICO), 330-830 (Experian), 501-990 (Vantagescore), which would make everyone's score above three digits, no?

And average IQ is 100 (three digits)so statistically, you're hardly the only one with a three digit IQ either.
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Versed

Mar 30, 2010, 8:28 AM
Werner,
I happen to own an Nexus One, and I will say this, the day VZW starts selling iPhones, you will walk into one of their stores with their sales force in goofy looking polo shirts with Apple and VZW logo's on them, there will be posters and internal iPhone kiosks in the store, if you wish an android or whatever device you will have to walk past it. And I'm not even going to talk about the barrage of tv, web and other media ads starting weeks or months prior.

This is reality. Has nothing to do with what you or I like. VZW will sell at least 20 million iPhones. I even predict they will come close to or out selling first weeks sales of what AT&T has done.
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Slammer

Mar 30, 2010, 8:57 AM
I just posted this same message to Bluecoyote:

The undeniable stability and quality of Apple's product line is widely known and generally never questioned. But what market share of the world favors the alternative? Most of my colleagues as well as other people in this world, DO NOT hate Apple's products, but rather Apple itself. Steve Jobs' dictation and control to become the most powerful person in the world, is only interested in building revenue by creating a cult of followers. Why else would they purposely lock down their devices only to open a few more new items with every additional issue? Smart? Yes definitely.
But here's the problem. Apple has successfully built an iphone craze. Locked into one carrier, has kept the interest em...
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Disrespect

Mar 30, 2010, 10:38 AM
But even in the PC vs Mac world, mac is gaining market share there as well.

Mac is not this evil cult that people make it seem to be. Lets not all forget all company's are out to make money. Bill Gates was doing the same thing with Microsoft, locking it down and monopolizing software. Google is flooding the market and buying up to eliminate competition.

So I say at the end of the day, just get what ever you want, but remember that none of these company's will be free and they all want money. To get the most money from a person is to be nice to that person so they will spend all their money continuously with you rather then screw them out of a large or medium size one time payment.

Sorry for the ramble.
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Menno

Mar 30, 2010, 1:24 PM
Yes, every company wants money. but very FEW companies lock down their device so that commonly requested features cannot be had, only to release them bit by bit once a year (when people sign 2 year contracts) to sucker you into buying a device that is a "little" bit better, with a "few" more features.

Their upgrade path mimics that of a feature phone line (like the EnV's) more than smartphones, where every new release is an undeniable upgrade from the one the previous year.

And apple's marketshare is growing slowly, but nowhere near what it would need to overtake the other players
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mont345

Mar 31, 2010, 12:55 AM
i cant imagine how much verizon is gonna charge to use the i phone.. Paranoid
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kevinski

Mar 31, 2010, 8:19 AM
Erm...probably the same as other smartphones.
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Versed

Mar 31, 2010, 12:38 PM
They will charge what they charge for any android, bb or pda phone device, no different then what AT&T does and you can check those prices out right now.
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trey1475

Mar 29, 2010, 10:04 PM
imchavez said:
really, do people really want an iphone on verizon cdma networks?? wasnt the "droid" supposed to be their flagship phone???? perhaps they are having the same reaction i had after seeing wirefly's droid and tmo's hd2 comparison. tmobile is really headed in the right direction, keep up the good work.


What the hell are you talking about? The Moto Droid came out 5 and a half months ago. Of course newer phones are going to be better overtime like the HD2. But in my opinion the Droid hold its own. Especially when the new update gets patched to all Droids which will give it all the new functions of the HD2.

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waldorfsalad

Mar 29, 2010, 10:14 PM
NO. People love the Apple Network. The iphone is Perfection in carnate. To put one anywhere else than the Apple Network would be sacreligous. (whew) So, how'd I do? Does that sound like I drank the cool aid? lol Laughing
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 11:23 AM
You forgot to rave about the copy and paste, but - overall - good job. XD
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SprintCC

Mar 30, 2010, 5:07 PM
I don't care about copy and paste. Heck, I'm the oddest one of all- I love AT&T but hate my iPhone. If someone had a Bold they wanted to trade I'm sure it could be worked out.

I got talked into drinking to kool aid, and I regret it. The iPhone is a good phone for some people, OK for others, and subpar for some. Same as any other phone. I found out the hard way that there are better choices for me. Sadly- it looks like many Verizon customers are going to go through the same thing.
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kevinski

Mar 30, 2010, 9:54 PM
The copy and paste thing was sarcasm, for the record. Razz
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SprintCC

Mar 30, 2010, 9:59 PM
Yeah, I caught it. Mine was as well. It is somewhat useful, but I would have never have thought that in all the threads on all the forums on the web that it would be mentioned as many times as it has been here.
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Slammer

Mar 31, 2010, 7:19 AM
I am rather confused here. You love ATT and want a bold. Yet, you sport "SprintCC" as your ID. Which do you work for and which one do you support?
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iamajim

Mar 30, 2010, 2:26 PM
I think your right Menno; this is basically a market driven move on both Vz and Apple; the first rule of busineds, dollars drive everything. This is just another arrow in Vz's quiver. With an Apple product they'll be in a position to not only retain their customers that would/are jumping to ATT but attract new ones. Att will need to really get their game on or else risk being an also-ran.
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