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Windows Phone 7 Won't Support MicroSD Cards, Multitasking

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Kudos to them

bluecoyote

Mar 15, 2010, 9:58 PM
1) MicroSD cards cause more problems than they solve. Every phone I've owned with a MicroSD card runs into issues reading it after about 6 months when dirt/grime gets underneath. "Where are my MP3's? Hold on, let me take the card out and blow on it"

Was a big issue with Legacy WinMo when I'd go to launch an app and the card reader lost contact with it. Just give the phone 16GB+ of Flash memory.


2) Kudos to Microsoft for realizing the way WinMo multitasks is worse than no multitasking at all. The downside is- Palm already figured out decent multitasking, and I'm sure Apple's working on something.
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Jayshmay

Mar 15, 2010, 10:38 PM
I swear to me this whole article had MS sucks written all over it. Oh and by the way, I know your anti Maemo, but that's another OS that has multitasking *MASTERED*. I read a review of the Nokia N900 and the review said something like they had 30+ apps open at the same time!!!
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bluecoyote

Mar 15, 2010, 11:05 PM
My 6680 and 3650 both encountered issues, though not as severe. Long story short, it's not necessary if you've got 16GB of flash memory on the phone.

Why would you want 30+ apps open at the same time? That's pointless and just sucks your battery dry. The only OS that even makes a decent case for multitasking is WebOS. The rest of it boils down more to background audio playback (nice) and location based services (nice as well.)
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Jayshmay

Mar 15, 2010, 11:13 PM
I don't get this stuff about apps running in the background using up battery power, if an app isn't being USED, and it's just sitting idle then how can it use battery power???

And what exactly is so unique about how WebOS handles multitasking compared to Maemo???
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bluecoyote

Mar 15, 2010, 11:55 PM
Because apps run background and idle processes much of the time. Most apps do. It's especially bad on Maemo (if you watch the video look how long Maps takes to load!)
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Jayshmay

Mar 16, 2010, 12:08 AM
If they run idle then how is it they are using battery power?
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bluecoyote

Mar 16, 2010, 1:35 AM
Increased CPU Usage = More Power = Less Battery life.
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Jayshmay

Mar 16, 2010, 2:10 AM
Why is the cpu beinp used on an app that is -idle-? Cpu should ONLY be used on the app that is currently being used.
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bluecoyote

Mar 16, 2010, 3:45 PM
Reallocating memory, and depending on the other app it may have a monitor that keeps running in the background.

The other option is to just cache an application's state in memory when it is sent into the background (which is what the iPhone does btw)
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WernerCD

Mar 16, 2010, 4:30 PM
Your car, on idle, uses gas.

Your computer, when a program is idle, still has to use power to maintain that idle power. The power to do that may not be much, but it will add up to a shorter battery life.

Back onto the car using gas... One engine idling won't use much gas. You put 10 engines idling on that same "tank" of gas, and you'll run out of gas sooner.

Not exactly rocket science once you realize that idle does NOT mean zero cpu use.
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Jayshmay

Mar 16, 2010, 11:14 PM
Here, more proof that MS is going out of their way to say WE SUCK! ! !

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/windows-phone-7-s ... »
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rwalford79

Mar 15, 2010, 11:09 PM
1. Never had issues with my Memory cards. Maybe if you stopped removing them all the time, they would still work.

2. No Multitasking on a Windows phone? Are they looking for teenagers who only do one thing, or business users who care to not be productive.

Just wondering.
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bluecoyote

Mar 15, 2010, 11:45 PM
1. If I'm not going to remove them, what's the point? It opens up another point of failure- better to build it in. It's better from a developer's standpoint too to know that all phones have to have a certain amount of memory.

2. Plenty of business users use iPhones (literally ALL of my clients do) and don't seem to have an issue. Somehow I don't think too many professionals desire to open up a task manager. Just saying.
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iamajim

Mar 15, 2010, 11:45 PM
ya, the whole 'no multitasking' think sounds like their taking a page from crApple and going to lock down the user experience to just MS. remember, didn't the istore just sell something like 10 billion whatevers; at at least .99 each thats a lot of bananas and i'm bettign MS thinks they can get some of that kind of loot. that leaves Android as the only mass available (for now, Nokia isn't widely available in the states) that allows you a choice, not to mention multitasking (at least i think it does, feel free to correct me-lol).
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bluecoyote

Mar 15, 2010, 11:52 PM
They don't want it to be a giant pile of crap like Android or Maemo.
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phatmanxxl

Mar 16, 2010, 1:15 AM
I can see Android winning over winmo with the choices they are making. Ive used apps2sd and yes im one of those people that like to have no limit on how much crap i can load onto my phone. I never had any problems with sd cards. I also think by your argumengs your just biased.
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bluecoyote

Mar 16, 2010, 1:29 AM
Yeah they're biased, I'm speaking from someone who's seen the mess that is the existing WinMo development platform, and is a Palm (both Legacy and WebOS) developer.
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trey1475

Mar 16, 2010, 1:48 AM
phatmanxxl said:
I can see Android winning over winmo with the choices they are making. Ive used apps2sd and yes im one of those people that like to have no limit on how much crap i can load onto my phone. I never had any problems with sd cards. I also think by your argumengs your just biased.


This dude does not know what he is talking about. Ive own 2 blackberries, touchpro II, Moto Droid, Voyager, and a Treo... I've never had any problems with any of my sd card. I think Microsoft is going in the wrong direction. And this is coming from someone who actually is a fan of a few windows mobile phones.

Firstly, Windows Mobile is generally geared towards business users. Multitasking is very necessary to rem...
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bluecoyote

Mar 16, 2010, 2:00 AM
I can tell you now it's a common occurrence.

Multitasking isn't necessary as much as memory and resource management is. That's why no professional carriers around a WinMo phone nowadays.
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trey1475

Mar 16, 2010, 3:52 PM
bluecoyote said:
I can tell you now it's a common occurrence.

Multitasking isn't necessary as much as memory and resource management is. That's why no professional carriers around a WinMo phone nowadays.


Sure cause all the business users are doing work on their Iphones. Are you ****in kidding me. Most business users are using either a blackberry or a windows mobile platform phone. Infact the Touch Pro II which run on windows mobile was rated (by business users) as the best business phone of 2009. As a matter of fact most corporations or firm's IT department only support Blackberry or Windows Mobile.

If I don't want multitasking then I will go with a dumbphone. I expect all smartphones to be able to ...
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rascallic81

Mar 18, 2010, 9:06 AM
trey1475 said:

Firstly, Windows Mobile is generally geared towards business users. Multitasking is very necessary to remain productive in a mobile world. I would like to see someone try to create a email using data from a spreadsheet and a word document on the fly without multitasking.


... and by the way, there will be no copy-and-paste. It is quoted that business users use copy-and-paste.
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rascallic81

Mar 18, 2010, 9:07 AM
rascallic81 said:


... and by the way, there will be no copy-and-paste. It is quoted that business users DON'T use copy-and-paste.
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