Apple Sues HTC Over Patents
All aspects target Android implementations
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues-htc-fo ... »
These are all legitimate patents Apple applied for while developing the iPhone- they're the real deal, folks.
The '331 Patent, entitled "Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States," was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The '949 Patent, entitled "Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics," was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the '949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The '381 Patent, entitled "List Scrolling And Doc...
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These are all legitimate patents Apple applied for while developing the iPhone- they're the real deal, folks.
The '331 Patent, entitled "Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States," was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
The '949 Patent, entitled "Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics," was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the '949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
The '381 Patent, entitled "List Scrolling And Doc...
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They target ANY touchscreen implementation (Android, WEBOS, SYMBIAN, WINMO, Blackberry, Bada, heck, even Dumbphone OS)
Apple is basically saying that only they are allowed to make Touchscreen phones, which is idiotic. You shouldn't be able to patent "using gestures to unlock the device." This is one of the few things I agree with the EU on. Software patents like this are stupid. Unless it's a direct copy, it shouldn't be sued, and Apple has done their own share of software copying.
Apple is basically saying that only they are allowed to make Touchscreen phones, which is idiotic. You shouldn't be able to patent "using gestures to unlock the device." This is one of the few things I agree with the EU on. Software patents like this are stupid. Unless it's a direct copy, it shouldn't be sued, and Apple has done their own share of software copying.
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So you're saying nobody should really do squat in terms of developing user interfaces or efficient memory usage- that instead all work should be free.
Do you know how well free software works? Try Ubuntu Netbook Remix sometime and watch as it sucks up twice the power of Windows-friggin-7. Compare GIMP to Photoshop. Compare Wordpress to Movable Type, etc.
Free software has its place and CAN push things forward, but it's not the final answer.
Do you know how well free software works? Try Ubuntu Netbook Remix sometime and watch as it sucks up twice the power of Windows-friggin-7. Compare GIMP to Photoshop. Compare Wordpress to Movable Type, etc.
Free software has its place and CAN push things forward, but it's not the final answer.
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We're not talking about specific applications, we're talking about GESTURES like "using a touchscreen to unlock"
Yes, Apple spent some RD but Why are they going after HTC now?
If they thought these patents were valid they would be suing EVERY PHONE COMPANY, Every os maker. but they're not. They're suing HTC.. why? because HTC is known for making the best Android and WINMO phones (your bias aside) and Apple seeks to block competition rather than directly compete against it. If Blackberry touch screens catch on, Apple will sue them too.
They're not suing because of "infringment" they're suing because they don't like the competition. (again, look at some of the patents like "using gestures to unlock" that existed WELL before Apple...
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Yes, Apple spent some RD but Why are they going after HTC now?
If they thought these patents were valid they would be suing EVERY PHONE COMPANY, Every os maker. but they're not. They're suing HTC.. why? because HTC is known for making the best Android and WINMO phones (your bias aside) and Apple seeks to block competition rather than directly compete against it. If Blackberry touch screens catch on, Apple will sue them too.
They're not suing because of "infringment" they're suing because they don't like the competition. (again, look at some of the patents like "using gestures to unlock" that existed WELL before Apple...
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I don't think HTC is going to be the last company sued by Apple. They're likely going to go after every Android handset maker, and likely Palm as well.
That's what they get for ripping off Apple. I mean, did any other company prior to Apple actually use touch-screen gestures to unlock a phone? Didn't think so.
That's what they get for ripping off Apple. I mean, did any other company prior to Apple actually use touch-screen gestures to unlock a phone? Didn't think so.
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Ripping off Aple, yet Apple rips off others. As Menno and myself pointed out Steve Jobs said "We are shameless when it comes to stealing ideas!" The do it and it's fine, someone does it to them and they want to sue.
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actually a lot did.
and the patent was awarded THIS YEAR (last month actually)
And Apple has no qualms of stealing ideas from others, but when it comes to others using their ideas, suddenly they are all about IP?
It's a petty lawsuit that will take YEARS to clarify.
Please explain to me how else a phone that is all touch screen would be unlocked? please.. I'm waiting.
that is why this lawsuit is stupid. It's like Exxon suing BP over octane levels in Gasoline.
and the patent was awarded THIS YEAR (last month actually)
And Apple has no qualms of stealing ideas from others, but when it comes to others using their ideas, suddenly they are all about IP?
It's a petty lawsuit that will take YEARS to clarify.
Please explain to me how else a phone that is all touch screen would be unlocked? please.. I'm waiting.
that is why this lawsuit is stupid. It's like Exxon suing BP over octane levels in Gasoline.
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No, it'd be like Exxon suing BP over designing a pump system that can be activated by selecting a button to specify octane level after they introduce it and advertises it as their competitive advantage.
Then BP comes along and does the SAME thing.
And then Exxon sues them, saying "Look we did all of the R&D into how the button activates the pump reliably and activates only after someone pays for gas etc. etc."
and Menno comes along and says "IT'S A BUTTON YOU CANT PATENT A BUTTON"
Then BP comes along and does the SAME thing.
And then Exxon sues them, saying "Look we did all of the R&D into how the button activates the pump reliably and activates only after someone pays for gas etc. etc."
and Menno comes along and says "IT'S A BUTTON YOU CANT PATENT A BUTTON"
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No, that would depend on how the button was used.
Again, apple has stolen things and you're fine with it (because apparently Hardware Patents don't count?) but if anyone makes anything similar to the way iphones do things, somehow it is a huge violation.
Steve Jobs admitted that they are proud of stealing great ideas.. but they hate it when someone does that to them
http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/top-10-features-a ... »
Again, apple has stolen things and you're fine with it (because apparently Hardware Patents don't count?) but if anyone makes anything similar to the way iphones do things, somehow it is a huge violation.
Steve Jobs admitted that they are proud of stealing great ideas.. but they hate it when someone does that to them
http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/top-10-features-a ... »
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That article claims "Timer Machine" is a ripoff of Windows Backup and Restore.
Despite the fact that beyond the fact one backs up files incrementally on an external drive providing time-based navigation while the other caches system configuration files on an internal disk (until it becomes a virus-harborer).
Do you not understand the difference? 🙄 I mean seriously, do you not? because understanding the difference between how these two things are different and how swiping up vs. to the right are considered the same is crucial to this topic of discussion.
That article claims "Timer Machine" is a ripoff of Windows Backup and Restore.
Despite the fact that beyond the fact one backs up files incrementally on an external drive providing time-based navigation while the other caches system configuration files on an internal disk (until it becomes a virus-harborer).
Do you not understand the difference? 🙄 I mean seriously, do you not? because understanding the difference between how these two things are different and how swiping up vs. to the right are considered the same is crucial to this topic of discussion.
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The concept is "backing up of data to prevent loss in the event of corruption."
I love it how everything under the sun is stealing from apple if it is even similar, but if apple does something, it's completely different because they make it pretty.
I'm done. When you're capable of an independant thought and you've stopped suckling on Steve Jobs' Teet maybe you're worth responding to. Until then you're nothing more than some guy parroting Cupertino's Articles of Faith.
I love it how everything under the sun is stealing from apple if it is even similar, but if apple does something, it's completely different because they make it pretty.
I'm done. When you're capable of an independant thought and you've stopped suckling on Steve Jobs' Teet maybe you're worth responding to. Until then you're nothing more than some guy parroting Cupertino's Articles of Faith.
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Nice, you keep switching the example. If the concept of "backing up data to prevent data loss" was the topic, it'd be analogous to Apple suing HTC over the very presence of an on-screen keyboard.
They're not suing over its presence, they're suing over how it works.
Got it? It's pretty clear.
They're not suing over its presence, they're suing over how it works.
Got it? It's pretty clear.
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Why yes, I do know how free software works. It gets stolen, used and nothing gets contributed to it by those that are using it. Just like the Linux BSD distro that is running underneath your pretty OSX GUI.
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There's no such thing 🤣
Unless you're referring to Darwin (which uh, is not Linux), which you may want to learn about here:
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html »
Unless you're referring to Darwin (which uh, is not Linux), which you may want to learn about here:
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html »
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