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So good

Tmo Slave

Feb 11, 2010, 6:00 PM
Skyfire is the best browser out there. They precache webpages for you on their servers so its really fast. Not to mention flash and silverlight. Finally can watch Hulu on my phone. Sucks for iphone users, haha.
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Jayshmay

Feb 11, 2010, 6:04 PM
I know, apple has a really effed up attiude about flash.
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RockTripod

Feb 13, 2010, 10:37 AM
So does bluecoyote.
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Jayshmay

Feb 13, 2010, 2:30 PM
I read an article that said that Apple might be favoring HTML 5, which is an alternative to Adobe Flash, HTML 5 is built right into the browser and web pages, rather than being some sort of plug-in like Adobe is.
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bluecoyote

Feb 11, 2010, 7:52 PM
Can just go to the H.264 Video site NBC set up and view videos at something higher than 3 FPS!
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kevinski

Feb 11, 2010, 8:14 PM
The site that you're referring to works on my HTC Droid Eris. Your point?
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bluecoyote

Feb 11, 2010, 8:25 PM
No, you need to go view it in Flash because it's so awesome! 🙄
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kevinski

Feb 11, 2010, 8:35 PM
I *could* view Flash content on my Eris, but video's best handled in the device's media player. I expect that most other Android devices can do the same. Just because a site is designed with iPhone users in mind doesn't mean that users of other mobile platforms can't view it.
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bluecoyote

Feb 11, 2010, 9:30 PM
Well, that's kind of the entire idea behind the web and open standards! I can go to the site on my desktop too! And my Pre!

Rather my point was that sites like NBC's iPhone site that stream in the excellent H.264 format exist because a certain phone manufacturer chose to exclude Flash instead of cramming it in so it could run half-assedly.
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kevinski

Feb 11, 2010, 10:03 PM
The purpose of Flash Lite is to run Flash half-assedly, especially since a lot of mobile devices up until now have been inadequate for handling something along the lines of Flash Player. You do realize that Adobe's working on a full-blown version of Flash for mobile devices, right? Flash is a resource hog, so it's not surprising that it's taken this long for devices to have the specifications to run it more competently.
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bluecoyote

Feb 11, 2010, 11:37 PM
Flash itself is and always will run half assedly. There is no reason other than lazy halfassedness that it consumes what it does in terms of resources.

It needs to die- at best it'll still consume large amounts of resources and cause lag when scrolling. Most browsers already support HTML5 video (even iPhone does).
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ibnturab

Feb 12, 2010, 12:20 AM
@bluecoyote: You're absolutely right, flash needs to die. Unfortunately, we don't have a good replacement that's widespread.
As far a flash support in mobiles, the old nokia n95's and n82's are still leagues ahead of current 'smartphones' in that they handle most flash based sites well [except no flash 10 like whats found on hulu].
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Cellinovation

Feb 12, 2010, 10:11 AM
I get that Apple is trying to look forward to HTML5, but it seems to me that support for poorly running flash content with a push for a change to HTML5 as the new standard would be better served for a company that is known for great media functionality on their other devices. Embrace the old, and push the new. That way their device will allow users to play it if they choose, and when HTML5 becomes more widespread on the internet it is already equipped to handle that. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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bluecoyote

Feb 12, 2010, 11:19 AM
Ideally yes, but that's never been Apple's MO. Witness the floppy disk, the serial port, S-video, the Java-Cocoa bridge, etc. It's also sort of a chicken-egg conundrum, owners of these sites don't want to re-write anything unless there's a reason. Hence the NBC streaming site.

The thing with HTML5 / H.264 is almost all video sites use H.264 for encoding (YouTube and Hulu do) , it's really just about writing a new front-end (YouTube already has, so has vimeo). NBC already has as well. It's not some wild new format, HTML5 (which has been slow to gain hold) is just a new wrapper that's long overdue to take hold.
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Tmo Slave

Feb 12, 2010, 2:14 PM
The main problem with Apple in general is their blatant refusal to accept anything but their own. That is why they will never surpass other OS's. They do not listen to their customers instead they tell their customers what they want. Apple still does not offer multitasking on their iphone and takes forever to release common things like MMS, which they usually offer in a brand "new" phone.

The main reason I will never use an Apple product is their draconian rules with their Software and Hardware.
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vampyra

Feb 11, 2010, 9:50 PM
is there any way to get an app for this browser for regular phones? im using a samsung eternity piece of crap... web browser is terrible... i cant get on my facebook now cuz it tells me that cuz im using a touch screen i need to use either the touch site or the fullsite... i just want my regular facebook mobile back. what do u think?
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Tmo Slave

Feb 12, 2010, 2:31 PM
You can check out Skyfires website they list all of the available platforms. I don't believe they offer it for Samsung though. I would use opera mini. They offer it on almost every phone out there and it works really well. Its fast and can display the full web pages.
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