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Nokia out of the US market within 15 months?

hepresearch

Jan 16, 2010, 6:08 PM
A dreadful prospect in my opinion... The investigation of Nokia's alleged infringements would take about 15 months, and once complete, if fault is found, Apple has sued for Nokia to be banned from sales in the US.

One might say this is decent payback for the suit by Nokia against Apple for alleged infringements, but I think this is just plain dumb. Nokia has been making smartphones for the US market since 2002, and Apple's iPhone just arrived in 2007. It is clear to me that Nokia was already here long before Apple entered the smartphone market, and given this established record for Nokia smartphones and Symbian S60/S80 in the US, and the royalties already paid to Nokia, I feel that Apple doesn't really have a leg to stand on.

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Jayshmay

Jan 16, 2010, 8:15 PM
I've never heard of S80? I've been using a Nokia N95 for just over 2yrs, it's kept me happy.

Now with reguards to what you said about Nokia making smartphones for the U.S. since 2002, I think it's sad that recently ATT has refused to carry the BEST smartphones that Nokia makes, N95/N97.

ATT shouldn't be dictating the market. ATT doesn't represent the customers.

T-Mobile also, the Nokia N900 works on Tmo's 3G network, but they haven't given any indication of offering that beast of a smartphone.
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bluecoyote

Jan 16, 2010, 8:57 PM
The N95 wasn't so great, it was slow and unresponsive. The web browser bottomed out pretty quickly. S60 used to be my favorite smartphone OS, but it's not relevant in 2010.
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Jayshmay

Jan 16, 2010, 9:12 PM
I know, I know.

I don't really use the webkit browser all that much, mostly Opera Mini. I've been happy with my N95 for 2yrs. But now I'm ready to upgrade to an Android smartphone, preferably one that is identical to the Nexus One but with a slide-out keyboard. It will be fun to have a smartphone that has a robust app marketplace, so I can play fun 3D games, and whatever other useful apps there might be.

I'm waiting to see what Android devices HTC makes that are compatible with ATT's 3G network.

Personally, I've never heard of S80.
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hepresearch

Jan 16, 2010, 9:24 PM
Yes, S80 is dead, and has been for some time, but I prefer it over Windows Mobile 6.0, which I also sampled at one time. I experimented with buying an unbranded, older device for a low price, and I have been very pleased with how it turned out. My Nokia 9300 has lasted me a long time, and I'll probably end up doing the same thing the next time around; that is, finding an older unbranded device that is still new in the box, sitting on a warehouse shelf somewhere, that I can buy for $150 or less without extending any contracts. Yes, I know that is a cheap thing to do, but I've never had a big budget to work with, and my requirements are not too lofty...
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hepresearch

Jan 16, 2010, 11:04 PM
Yes, S80 is long dead, but I still happen to like it, and it did play a role in the US market for a time. Technically, S60 is (or soon will be) dead as well...

Somehow I doubt that S60 was ever your favorite smartphone OS... you talk in your other posts like you'd love to see it burn to the ground. How did you ever become the Anti-Nokia?
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hepresearch

Jan 16, 2010, 9:15 PM
S80 = Series 80... the Communicator smartphones by Nokia, like the 9300, 9300i, and 9500. I happen to own the 9300...

And it is sad that none of the major carriers choose Nokia's high end smartphones these days. I still remember how AT&T used to carry the Nokia 9300, the E62, and the N75, which were decent phones (though they were much better when unbranded). The E71x was a decent pick by AT&T, but they have not gone for any other decent E-series or N-series phones. As for the Nokia Surge, that has been a rare disappointment in my opinion. I was happy to see AT&T recently carry some S60 phones, but at the same time I wish they would carry more of the better ones, and not the Surge.

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Jayshmay

Jan 16, 2010, 9:25 PM
What unbranded device do you have?

The N900 is definetly one beast of a phone, that's for sure.

Unbranded devices are always better, carriers need to bud out of the entire phone industry. The only job they need to do is to provide a damn signal to our own private cell phones.
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hepresearch

Jan 16, 2010, 9:38 PM
I have an unbranded Nokia 9300. As opposed to the Cingular branded Nokia 9300 from back in 2005. The unbranded phone is relatively quick and doesn't crash like the branded version, probably because there is more available memory. The phone has an archaic 150 MHz processor, but goes fast enough for my taste. On T-Mobile's service I was able to get data to stream at about 300 kb/sec when using the phone as a modem. Definitely sub-DSL, but still six times better than dial-up. I was also able to get to the internet through AT&T's network for only $10/month, which was really nice.

I feel the same way you do about carriers. I am tired of being locked into two-year contracts with a selection of junk phones. I want to buy my own phone, an...
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Versed

Jan 17, 2010, 6:10 PM
I totally agree, my E71 is unbranded and far better then the E71x in real world use. And there is no friggin way to unbrand the E71x which sux.

The Surge, well it isn't my cup of tea, and the problem is AT&T made a big mistake putting it on a $30 data plan, if they sold it as a medianet phone, my opinion of it would change. This is a paramount texting phone, and people who were willing to get it for their teenagers, most likely will back down to do monthly cost. It was supposed to be a lower end mid level phone. Reasonable to buy. $30 data kills that.
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evrodude

Jan 17, 2010, 12:57 PM
Nokia has been making phones and technology that runs them decades before Apple even conceived a device that later became an iPhone.
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Versed

Jan 17, 2010, 6:11 PM
evrodude said:
Nokia has been making phones and technology that runs them decades before Apple even conceived a device that later became an iPhone.



BTW, Motorola made phones before them, so who cares, has nothing to do with that? And I'm a Nokia user.
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