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FCC Wants A Better Explanation from Verizon On ETFs

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Good!

muchdrama

Jan 9, 2010, 1:46 AM
I'm glad the FCC is sticking it to Verizon. They deserve it for raising their ETF to a ridiculous and exorbitant amount.
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Menno

Jan 9, 2010, 3:31 AM
So you frequently cancel your phone lines?
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muchdrama

Jan 9, 2010, 3:40 AM
Menno said:
So you frequently cancel your phone lines?


Nope. Been with my current carrier since December of '03.

Way to assume, jackanape.
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Menno

Jan 9, 2010, 3:43 AM
I assume nothing.

If then, your current carrier upped the early termination fee to $1,000, would you leave to find someone else, even if everything else stayed the same? or got better?
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Otowncell

Jan 9, 2010, 10:42 AM
I know I would leave my carrier MENNO, if they raised it to a $1000 because I am an egotistical a$$ that has to follow the whiners of America and demand that a penalty I will never get hit with because I have no problems with the service get dropped down to a suitable level where I can scrap up penny's to pay; just in case!
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2010, 12:25 AM
Menno said:
I assume nothing.

If then, your current carrier upped the early termination fee to $1,000, would you leave to find someone else, even if everything else stayed the same? or got better?


You're missing the point as usual, Menno. $350 to terminate your contract is ridiculous.

That's it. No philosophy or how the stars align. Try not to overthink it.
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Menno

Jan 10, 2010, 1:21 AM
you didn't answer my question. if your carrier upped their early term to 1000, would you not sign with them, even if nothing else changed? For a pretty large majority of Verizon (or any wireless carrier's customers) the early term could be a million dollars and it would make no significant difference on if they would leave their carrier early or not.

People not affected by the change.
-The majority are happy with the carrier.
-Then you have the people who have 175 is too high, so they wait till the end of term.
-Then you have the mixed majority who wouldn't leave the carrier even with a buyback ETF (based directly on their phone subsidy) but still complain about it.
-and finally you have the very small minority who would pay any pri...
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muchdrama

Jan 10, 2010, 1:28 AM
Menno said:
you didn't answer my question. if your carrier upped their early term to 1000, would you not sign with them, even if nothing else changed? For a pretty large majority of Verizon (or any wireless carrier's customers) the early term could be a million dollars and it would make no significant difference on if they would leave their carrier early or not.

People not affected by the change.
-The majority are happy with the carrier.
-Then you have the people who have 175 is too high, so they wait till the end of term.
-Then you have the mixed majority who wouldn't leave the carrier even with a buyback ETF (based directly on their phone subsidy) but still complain about it.
-and finally you have the very smal
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Menno

Jan 10, 2010, 1:30 AM
sorry, I'll stop smudging your mirror so you get a better look at yourself next time Mr Kettle
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Azeron

Jan 10, 2010, 1:43 AM
LOL
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bp3dots1

Jan 9, 2010, 3:13 PM
Well, would you sign a contract if you didn't agree with the terms?
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infinitehorizon

Jan 10, 2010, 1:33 AM
You want someone to stick it to?? How about the greedy consumer. I've read hundreds of posts where people added lines taking advantage of the bogo offers, then disconnected and sold the phones only to make a sizeable profit. And there's also that fun word, inflation! This was a smart move by Verizon and like another poster said, if you don't like the contract, don't sign the damn thing!!! 😲
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Slammer

Jan 10, 2010, 10:14 AM
Who is at fault for offering free phones if they can't afford the loss?
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Versed

Jan 10, 2010, 11:13 AM
Slammer said:
Who is at fault for offering free phones if they can't afford the loss?



Good point, in the end, it doesn't come down to the fee, it comes down to a long term loss of a customers that the carriers don't want. I read the all sorts of posts some even that I don't agree with which were well done. But in the end the US Wireless industry wants a form of indentured servitude and it isn't only VZW. I would prefer the european model, those companies are bigger or as large as their US counterparts, better service, more choice and freedom to flip carriers easier, for whatever reason.

And yes you can get subsidized phones, and pay a far less overtime etf.
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Versed

Jan 10, 2010, 11:08 AM
Greedy consumer, greedy consumer, because a vast minority of people done these bongo deals? AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and VerizonWireless (and their two owners) as well as other mega corporations aren't greedy, Oh please!
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