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mcfadonna

Dec 26, 2009, 10:42 AM
Hum it seems to me The people sticking up for Verizon are the same people that approve of Obama Taking over the bank industry, Auto industry , Health industry, and now will work to tax the air you breath. But touch the big "V" and government needs to stay out of " free market " ! lol Then i think i seen someone say Government needs to protect us from the evil companies That provide us jobs. Then wonder why the jobless rate is over 10% and climbing. I just seen a senator Talk about going after phone makers. This horse crap is getting deeper by the day and the Dems havent been in control for a full year yet. I would say its funny but its actually not funny at all! But you are getting what you voted for so Verizon take a big bite of this ****...
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SprintCC

Dec 26, 2009, 12:08 PM
You must not have read many of the posts. There is actually quite a bit of debate that points to conservative type people saying the government needs to stay out of the way and let Verizon run its own business and liberal types cheering for the FCC getting involved, and even saying that the SEC should do something.

If you're a righty and you think this is a good thing or a lefty and you think it is a bad thing you simply aren't true to your ideals.

Personally, I believe in Capitalism and the greatness that it has brought to our country. Any time the government gets involved in the private sector it is a bad thing- even if Verizon is lying through their teeth about this whole thing.
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SS EarlGoodman

Dec 26, 2009, 1:01 PM
Aren't true to your ideals? Has it occured to you that some people choose and vote on morals? I'm not left or right I just go for what morally sounds right to me.
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Overmann

Dec 26, 2009, 2:44 PM
So you're saying it is morally right for someone to set up 40 lines of service on a cardboard company name, using the BOGO deals on the Smartphones ($199*20), then cancel service in two weeks and keep the phones, and sell them all on ebay as New "Only activated to test service" $500 with calculated shipping, paying only activation ($35+$25*39), and ETF ($175*$40), and prorated service (($1075/2)+($9.99/2)*39+(($29.99/2)*40)), and ebay and paypal fees (($4+$36+$0.35+$10)*40), and still making $4,663.90 on the deal, whereas Verizon (we assume this is an online order or a direct one) pays $480 (lets assume this price, the flagship smartphones are at least $100 more expensive than that wholesale) for the phone, each one, and they have to eat $5,...
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Versed

Dec 26, 2009, 3:13 PM
Citation where that has happened?
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MillaTime021

Dec 26, 2009, 9:13 PM
More than you know. I know at least 3 companies in Nebraska that this has happened to. It does happen. Personally, I think they needed to just drop the BOGO's and leave it alone but that was just me.
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Overmann

Dec 27, 2009, 3:38 PM
If you worked on the other end of the counter you would know when this happens. But because billing details are private as per FCC rules, I can't state the real incidents. It is also hard to find the people responsible when they use "Cardboard Companies" which are just Tax IDs and businesses that are only businesses on paper, with good credit history, but don't actually exist.
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mcfadonna

Dec 26, 2009, 2:29 PM
Yes i read alot of the post and it would seem we are on the same page on this one. It just seems to me that people vote left and when this type of thing comes full circle they want it to happen to everyone but them. I travel to New Mexico every two days and they have flooded their state government with lefties. Sometime this next year they will be required to have a visa or passport to fly out to any other state. And when asked why they answer.......BUSH ! Its just so funny to me. But on the other hand its just sad to see this happening.
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RockTripod

Dec 27, 2009, 4:40 PM
@ mcfadonna: We get it. You're conservative. I'm not. You're using extreme examples of left-wing madness to make your point. The problem is, the extreme examples are not indicative of the norm. Take, for example, the Republican party's madness, or, as I call it, 2000-2008. We invade a country in a goose chase for weapons, only to find none. Then, it becomes a quest to free them from tyranny. Right... It felt like that chapter of 1984 when they switch what country they are at war with just by whipping everyone into a frenzy. Let's also not forget corporate tax breaks at an extreme, the Katrina disaster, etc. But this isn't the Republican party's normal behavior. I frankly agree with them on a great many points. In reality, both p...
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mcfadonna

Jan 6, 2010, 9:55 PM
First of all get it right the Democrats took over the house and senate in 2006. The president cant just pass laws on its own it has to be approved by congress.

Also i think we can find common ground on issues we just disagree how we got here.

Being from California i watched the Democrats run that state into the ground. And then point the finger at the right. People in Cali being clueless sheep dont know any better.

Now im in Colorado and we have been over run by Cali/Chicago style democrats. And we are finally waken up ready to throw the bums out.
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Scotty_bing

Dec 26, 2009, 4:45 PM
You are an idiot! I cannot stand Obama. I hate everything he stands for. I support business and free enterprise. This means that I support a business making a decision to help themselves. In a country with a strong (but depleting) private sector, I am at liberty to choose where I take my business. I acknowledge Verizon made a policy. I do not like it; therefore, I will take my business elsewhere. That is a freedom I have.
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