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Nokia Only Eying One Maemo Device in 2010

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Step Aside, Let the Android Through

ibnturab

Nov 30, 2009, 2:21 PM
Based explosion of handsets that currently have or that will have android on them, its pretty clear that android will be the platform of choice for all touch devices for the next few years. There is no reason for nokia to reinvent the wheel when there is a very functional operating system already floating around. Maemo may actually be better than android, but its a late comer to an already established and operational market.
Maemo, i'm sorry we have to let you go before your first day at the job, thanks for the effort.
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kingstu

Nov 30, 2009, 3:47 PM
Maemo is not new, it has been around far longer than Android. It has the potential to be much more useful for Nokia than Andriod. I for one don't want to see advertisements based on the contents of my texts messages starting to appear on my phone which I can see being the future of Android.
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ads1525

Nov 30, 2009, 4:12 PM
kingstu said:
Maemo is not new, it has been around far longer than Android. It has the potential to be much more useful for Nokia than Andriod. I for one don't want to see advertisements based on the contents of my texts messages starting to appear on my phone which I can see being the future of Android.



What?
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h_aguilar84

Nov 30, 2009, 5:02 PM
I'm sorry what part of that statement did you not understand? It's pretty clear cut to me.
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ibnturab

Nov 30, 2009, 5:33 PM
I think most people don't know that maemo was used in the nokia internet tablets n800 and n770 which were a complete failure [sales wise] worldwide. But Maemo was never incorporated in any mobile phone. And from the looks of it, its not going anywhere either.
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kingstu

Nov 30, 2009, 6:26 PM
The future of the cellphone will be to be a mobile computer. Eating up the space that netbooks now have. The N900 is considered by many to be a "beta" phone that they are releasing to get developers and techies acquainted with maemo and soon be able to release the polished "next version". As a mobile computer, it is above any other smartphone. Their supposed new device is a capacitive touchscreen keyboardless Maemo 6 device.
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Jayshmay

Dec 1, 2009, 1:34 AM
Yep, the reason Maemo has been a failure is because it's distribution has been limited to internet tablets of which their ONLY connectivity is WiFi. That's why I think it has been a failure. And then of course another reason, unless T-Mobile USA picks it up, the N900 is limited to Europe, so many things holding Maemo back.
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kingstu

Dec 1, 2009, 12:06 PM
I'm an American but I can't understand the USA-centric attitude. The USA is HUGE but it is not the world. And having a carrier pick it up doesn't define whether a smartphone is good or an OS is good. I personally hate the bastardized locked phones and don't mind paying for something that gives me EVERYTHING I want and not just whatever the carrier wants.
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ibnturab

Dec 1, 2009, 3:07 PM
I totally agree that the sales success of a particular product in the USA doesn't necessarily reflect how well it will do globally. I always hate how the providers here corrupt good phones by locking them down. The n900 will definitely get a warmer reception overseas where Nokia is the market leader. But I fear the stagnation that has been going on along with poor timing is going to force Nokia to seriously rethink their smartphone platform.
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Jayshmay

Dec 1, 2009, 1:31 AM
Maemo may not be new, but it is new to the smartphone market, because prior to the N900 Maemo was limited to internet tablets, which were limited to WiFi, and not cellular networks.

But when it comes to quanitity of devices, Android wins, over all other OS's.
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japhy

Nov 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
As has been mentioned, Maemo is older, but what's not always readily remembered is Maemo is essentially a desktop operating system slimmed down & customized for a mobile device. Android, being based on the Linux kernel, shares some roots and lots of functionality, but it's primarily a mobile/consumer electronic device OS that's poised to grow beyond it's original scope. Similar, yes, but not quite the same thing.

More important, though, is that both of them have done exactly what their respective developers have wanted them to do: Google wanted to spread an open sourced mobile software platform, and purposely pushed it on multiple OEMs. Nokia focused on creating a new device category that, admittedly, isn't there yet in terms of adopt...
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ibnturab

Dec 1, 2009, 12:23 AM
What you have mentioned is reasonable. However, It seems like nokia a sacrificing a lot to get to make their dream OS a reality. But this is not the time to be experimenting with a new OS that is arguably 1-2 yrs late. Google wanted to do with mobile OS's what windows has done to the pc. And by all accounts, it seems thats the direction we are all headed-- one dominant OS with apps compatible with almost all mobile devices. It sounds like a simple yet powerful idea to me. Perhaps Maemo is a better OS, with greater growth potential. But if it gets poor support and the few developers buy in, it will be put on a shelf with other great ideas that never took off. And at the end of the day, any company that fails to sell its product will have ...
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japhy

Dec 1, 2009, 7:14 PM
ibnturab said:
Google wanted to do with mobile OS's what windows has done to the pc. And by all accounts, it seems thats the direction we are all headed-- one dominant OS with apps compatible with almost all mobile devices.


What?! Not even close - the mobile OS field is scattered & spread out far beyond the desktop scheme. There's not even agreement as to the exact numbers, but it's clear that Apple, Blackberry, and Android are here to stay, and Windows Mobile - while fading - isn't going away anytime soon either. Than there's all the also rans (Palm, Symbian, etc) and proprietary dumb phone UIs. No, the mobile OS demographics are fractured for good, no matter how much they might shift one way or ano...
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ibnturab

Dec 1, 2009, 10:48 PM
"What?! Not even close - the mobile OS field is scattered & spread out far beyond the desktop scheme. "

If you are speaking about this moment in time, then yes, you are absolutelycorrect. But the future ... No one knows of course but there is a definate move towards fewer mobile OS -- simply to save money on the manufacturing end. In terms of mobile manufacturers, a lot of these are going to go merge in the next 5 years or so, and the environment will get less and less diverse. The 'dumb' phone OSes are also going to fade out == in a few years there aren't going to be too many dumb phones around. If you recall a nokia came out publically stating that its terminating the symbian platform only to retract that statement the next day . But ...
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Omagus

Dec 1, 2009, 11:45 PM
ibnturab said:
If you recall a nokia came out publically stating that its terminating the symbian platform only to retract that statement the next day .


Please share where you heard this. I read Nokia say that it was going to evolve past S60 to Symbian^3, etc. I also read that the company was planning on going to Maemo for all future Nseries devices (although any mention of the future of Eseries, Xseries and Xpress Music was notably absent). However, nowhere have I read or heard that Nokia ever had any plans to completely terminate the Symbian platform.
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