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The Map is what made me switch

donebrasko

Nov 13, 2009, 4:12 PM
Before the commercial came out I was on Verizons website and I saw their high speed coverage and then looked at AT&Ts. I was with AT&T since 2001 and its a shame that the coutry areas get ignored. I live in SC and only Columbia and Myrtle Beach gets 3g. Well not only but those places are the closest to me.

Anyway I sat beside my brother with our WM phones and we both downloaded something from Youtube. His streamed seamlessly (Verizon) while mine kept stopping to buffer(AT&T). I am a data heavy user and if I am going to pay all that money I might as well have the best service and speeds. The map says it all. There is no way you can refute it. Edge speeds was ok, but its like dial up compared to what I am getting now. And this is...
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ecycled

Nov 13, 2009, 4:14 PM
Obviously it was faster internet speeds where you use it.
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Azeron

Nov 13, 2009, 6:15 PM
Right. He did not log onto Verizon's website and say, "Hey their map shows more coverage! I'm switching right now!" He had a real world demonstration and made the decision based on actual 3G coverage.
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donebrasko

Nov 14, 2009, 12:00 AM
I would have never even thought about switching if I didnt see the map. I assumed that Verizons was just as spotty as ATT until.......THE MAP!!!!!! lol
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akidwai

Nov 13, 2009, 4:40 PM
Welcome home (to Verizon),

I live in the Greenville-Spartanburg area and here ATT has 3G in addition to Columbia, Charleston, and Murtle Beach.

I have been with Verizon since Sept 2001, and I am well pleased with it.

Just look at the SC verizon's 3G map and the ATT's 3G map of this state and there is no comparison in 3G, although the voice/EDGE (2.5G) is very close to verizon 3G only MAP!!! WHY WOULD YOU SETTLE FOR LESS??? Why worry about driving from big city a to big city b and be satisfied with 2.5G when one really has to try very hard to find somewhere here in SC where Verizon has 2.5G instead of 3G (EVDO).

It was not always like this. About 2 yrs ago Verizon's 3G map looked like ATT's current 3G map - along only the major ...
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bluecoyote

Nov 13, 2009, 6:15 PM
I am in the GSP area and AT&T's 3G network has far fewer holes in it...
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donebrasko

Nov 14, 2009, 12:02 AM
Not where I live. I was completely shocked at the coverage for calls and data.
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Azeron

Nov 13, 2009, 6:17 PM
Maybe the Alltel buyout helped with coverage.
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akidwai

Nov 14, 2009, 8:44 AM
Alltel buyout was finalize in the SC area this year around July 4, but it was early in 2008 when the EVDO coverage expanded greatly.

I have not seen any improvements since the Alltel merger. Perhaps there was not much room for improvement. Sort of like Rush Limbaugh's claim that he is 98.6% correct and after being on the air for 20 yrs how can a few correct or incorrect comments change his 20 yr average. 🤣
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CellularSenorita

Nov 13, 2009, 6:19 PM
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I have the same issue every day- one VZ phone in one hand and ATT in the other... VZ-- no problems, even in Kentucky.
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Jonathanlc2005

Nov 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
im curious why you didnt choose sprint f unlimited everything including unlimited mobile to mobile on any cell phone carrier and 450 landline mins for 69.99 a month
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Jonathanlc2005

Nov 14, 2009, 12:06 AM
im curious why you didnt choose sprint unlimited everything including unlimited mobile to mobile on any cell phone carrier and 450 landline mins for 69.99 a month
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mycool

Nov 14, 2009, 3:53 AM
Why do people always make it sound like if you get Sprint you automatically get VZW everywhere, when in fact the phone will ONLY pickup VZW where Sprint has no native coverage. That means if you're in a major area that they "cover" (even if it is poor) your phone will stick to the bad quality service.

It's called a PRL list... Preferred Roaming List.

You're phone does not pickup VZW towers not in that list, so you can not just "force it". It is designated to only pickup towers Sprint has deemed outside their native coverage, and maybe not even first. They might have another local company higher up in the list.
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Jonathanlc2005

Nov 14, 2009, 6:15 AM
ok mycool... since you wanna pretend to be cool, heres a fact or two you should know before talking to someone whos been in this game for 5 years since day 1 of evdo launch on sprint and verizon.

PRL is preferred roaming list which has a list of towers that is designated to pick up towers from CDMA towers such as verizon, alltel, cellular one, metropcs, so on and so on, canada and mexico, isreal and others are too in that list that has MAJORITY if not ALL the towers of that carrier participating in roaming. data roaming works the same way, whereever there is for example alltel evdo in the boonies of alabama, then sprint too will have evdo and vise-versa for alltel customers as per the agreement between the two of FULL access to evdo servi...
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ecmark00

Nov 14, 2009, 11:48 AM
Actually, Mrcool is a bit more accurate than you are.

First, lets skip all the PRL editing/hacking or any other tricks that are beyond the average customers abilities. Its not supported by the carrier, so therefore its not a carrier option to tout.

Forcing roam does not override the PRL. MrCool misused the term native coverage, as that is a bit of an unfair assumption. The phone searches for all signals, and uses whichever one is the highest priority, regardless if its weak or strong. Also, some SIDs/towers are set to negative, which means the phone will not use them regardless if its the only option. So to say that Sprint can use any Alltel/VZW tower is not accurate.

I know VZW is very tight on their PRL choices and sprint is ...
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Jonathanlc2005

Nov 14, 2009, 12:10 PM
it was never inplied to say best coverage because it roams off, its simply saying that was refering to evdo roaming is available if your out of coverage on verizon vs att
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tbacba

Nov 14, 2009, 2:29 PM
The reason he may feel othyerwise about Sprint not being able to force roaming, is that it's not possible on all Sprint phones as you say. Blackberries for instance. If you know of a way, please let the rest of the Blackberry community in on it. And if you really are someone's "pappy", please consider raising your kid to have a little more humility than you.
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boomer916

Nov 14, 2009, 12:41 PM
This is exactly right. I travel up to northern California a lot and US Cellular is the "A" carrier for pretty much everything North of Santa Rosa all the way to Eureka. Coincidentally, its because Verizon has awful coverage up there.
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Menno

Nov 14, 2009, 10:23 AM
Mobile to mobile DOES NOT WORK while roaming, you can be cut from the network for over 800 min roaming, and they do not roam on EVDO, only 1xrtt, unless they had roaming agreements with old alltel that are still in place.
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Jonathanlc2005

Nov 14, 2009, 12:12 PM
they are still in place per the maps, and did not update that at the time of typing so thank you for the mobile to mobile clarification
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Disrespect

Nov 14, 2009, 12:38 PM
to be confused with "Any Mobile, Anytime"

These are two different features.
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jrfdsf

Nov 14, 2009, 3:17 PM
Menno said:
Mobile to mobile DOES NOT WORK while roaming, you can be cut from the network for over 800 min roaming, and they do not roam on EVDO, only 1xrtt, unless they had roaming agreements with old alltel that are still in place.

NO national carrier allows free M2M while roaming- so what?

Roam too much on any carrier and they will cut you. Sprint just merely outlines for their customers how much rather than leaving it up to their own discretion.
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Menno

Nov 14, 2009, 4:35 PM
Verizon's m2m counts while roaming, I've checked this with 7 different verizon reps across 4 different states. There are also people with verizon who moved up to alaska (where V didn't have coverage at the time) and verizon didn't cut them off.
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jrfdsf

Nov 14, 2009, 5:26 PM
http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Calling%20Plans/faq_in_c ... »

Mobile to Mobile Calling Details
1.What is the Mobile to Mobile Calling Promotion? Verizon Wireless is pleased to announce its latest promotional offer - Unlimited Mobile to Mobile Calling and Unlimited Night and Weekend calling on Nationwide Plans and Local plans of $39.99 or higher.

Mobile to Mobile Calling allows you to call any of our more than 80 million customers nationwide whenever you want, and talk as long as you want without having to worry about using your minutes.

Following are just some of the many advantages of Mobile to Mobile
â—¦Mobile to Mobile Calling vs. Earlier Weeknights: Mobile to Mobile Calling is free unlimited anytime calling and is not...
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