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For once...I see AT&T's point

JeffdaBeat

Nov 12, 2009, 2:12 PM
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/11/10/att_de ... »

I'm not a fan boy. AT&T and Verizon are not my BFF's like some of the folks on here. What I do like is the absolute truth. Reading this article told me why AT&T is suing. I thought the commercials were funny and creative. But they aren't true. What do you guys think?
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ECANTU

Nov 12, 2009, 2:19 PM
i think att should get a new tampon and quit bitching.
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Menno

Nov 12, 2009, 2:36 PM
That article uses theoretical speeds, and it's been a bit since I read it, but didn't they also claim that Verizon wasn't showing their actual 3g map (which not even att is contesting)


And since when are ads 100% full disclosure, "More bars in more places" or how they advertise "america's fastest 3g network" where no 3g is available, and they are frequently beaten for average speeds.

Someone got creative with ads and they are crying foul because they cannot compete with their own map.
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GumpsWaal

Nov 12, 2009, 3:15 PM
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there is a clear winner here. And believe me.. i'm no FANBOY (nuh!)

Verizon has AT&Ts number and AT&T is a blood belch

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Azeron

Nov 12, 2009, 4:03 PM
I am of the opinion that the map on those commercials is NOT full Broadband (EV-DO) but rather National Access (1x) AND Broadband Access). Others here have a different opinion. In any event, my point all along has been if I AM correct even National Access (1x) is by definition 3G where as AT&T's Edge is not classified as 3G despite being nearly as fast as National Access. I say: Tough! Technically even if Verizon is using it's slower coverage in those maps...it's slower coverage IS 3G, too.
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JeffdaBeat

Nov 12, 2009, 6:26 PM
I think it all comes down to what the carrier considers 3G. When the iPhone switches to EDGE, it will say "E" and when it is on the HSPA network, it says "3G." If AT&T took on Verizon's standards then the iPhone would say "3G" even when in EDGE. When I worked for Sprint, my phone would say EVDO even if it is slower than that.
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Azeron

Nov 13, 2009, 1:46 AM
Sorry. No one considers Edge 3G. Not that it is up to the carrier to determine this, but I doubt AT&T would try to. Again, they can combat with litigation or counter claims in commercials or network build out. I think litigation is a good first step. If it does not work...commercials. uilding out its network would be costly.
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JeffdaBeat

Nov 13, 2009, 9:08 AM
Read the story I put in my original post...if Edge can reach the same variable speed as what Verizon considers 3G then why is it any different?
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Azeron

Nov 13, 2009, 3:02 PM
It just isn't. There is a 3G forum which determines which technology is or is not 3G. I agree that Edge is comparable to 1x in speed. I have been consistent with my opinion on that for years. In the end...so what? 1x IS and Edge ISN'T. It is up to AT&T to take its case to the public and explain that it's 2.5G is just as good as Verizon's 1x. Having to combat these commercials in such a manner is actually giving Verizon free advertising, too. A no win for them which is why litigation is their best hope.
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lilbp

Nov 13, 2009, 4:19 PM
This is why it's completely wrong for Verizon to advertise in this manner. They're comparing apples to oranges, and are allowing customers to think all 3G technology is the same speed and same technology.
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Menno

Nov 13, 2009, 3:17 PM
actually it would either show

1x (National Access)
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3g/EV (Broadband access)
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flip69

Nov 12, 2009, 4:25 PM
But neither were the fewer dropped calls ads that AT&T ran.
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