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Why is this ok?

thickjake

Nov 4, 2009, 10:39 PM
can you imagine if AT&T did this first for iphone, Bold, or any other device? (and i think they should)
Verizon fanboy would be all over it. Why is there the double standard?
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bluecoyote

Nov 4, 2009, 11:04 PM
Verizon Wireless is all about screwing their customers, whether it's comparing their 1XRTT network's coverage to AT&T's HSDPA as an apples-to-oranges comparison, or telling someone an LG Dare is just like an iPhone, or telling someone a Pantech POS is just as good as a Sony Ericsson on AT&T, or telling someone their network has good coverage when honestly it blows (apparently not in Manhattan but it sure does out here on the southern coast!) , or nickel and diming them just to install a thin gruel of crappy apps with their BREW content system, or their ridiculously overpriced and crappy music store, and not to mention their endless string of craptacular handsets over the years...

Nobody cares now because all of their high-paying customers...
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Menno

Nov 4, 2009, 11:53 PM
http://www.jdpower.com/Telecom/ratings/wireless-cust ... »

That's why they consistently get first (or tie for it) year in and year out when it comes to customer service, right?
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:33 AM
If you have low enough standards to sign up for them you have low enough standards to appreciate the same crappy service.
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 12:34 AM
that's why people switching from ATT constantly praise Verizon customer service right?

Seriously, you want to be the fanboy and all and that's great if you're into that thing.. but at least pretend to have some data to back up your claims.
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:37 AM
Is "Fanboy" your word for someone who disagrees with you AND is right?

OF course someone who switches providers is going to rate the new service higher. Unsurprisingly, when I left VZW for AT&T I found AT&T's service better!
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HawkeyeOC

Nov 5, 2009, 12:40 AM
bluecoyote said:
Is "Fanboy" your word for someone who disagrees with you AND is right?

OF course someone who switches providers is going to rate the new service higher. Unsurprisingly, when I left VZW for AT&T I found AT&T's service better!


Congratulations! Now go home 🤣
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:44 AM
You're not even good at coming up with replies!
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HawkeyeOC

Nov 5, 2009, 1:04 AM
bluecoyote said:
You're not even good at coming up with replies!


As opposed to you who is keeping us educated about words like "Crap" and "dumb"

Not sure what you aim to accomplish. Your not winning over tons of people with those words 🤣
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 12:45 AM
no, fanboy is my term for someone who, no matter the topic, will somehow turn it into a flame fest against the carrier they hate while insisting that the carrier they love poops out gold bricks.

And you're not right, as shown by every nationwide survey, study, and the fact that when ATT made the claim about "more bars in more places" they were sued and they switched it to worldwide, while Verizon's been running "best nationwide coverage" ads for years and they haven't had to change them.
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:48 AM
Our topic here is that Verizon stinks. And Verizon just got sued for lying about their coverage and lying about AT&T's.

And I can verify first hand Verizon exaggerates their network coverage. You know what's worse than not having 3G service? Your crappy carrier telling you you do!
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 12:50 AM
No, they did not get sued about lying about their coverage. They got sued because ATT said that their ads were misleading because they implied that no 3g coverage meant no data coverage.

ATT is not suing that the maps are inaccurate, just that the average consumer will misinterpret them. Perhaps you should read the news release again.
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:53 AM
You would read that Verizon Wireless wasn't making an apples-to-apples 3G coverage comparison but was including their entire data network as 3G (which it isn't.)
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 12:56 AM
they are including EVDO rev A, not 1x
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:59 AM
Their EVDO footprint isn't anywhere near what they show in the map.
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 1:04 AM
actually it is.

And yes, I know you are going to mention your "twenty mile gap" story for the millionth time.

Fun fact: The Ad on the tv show (scale wise) is so large that your "gap" most likely wouldn't show up even if they did make it white.

That section could also be a roaming partner, so it is that other carrier that is making the claim of 3g where there is none.

Give me a zip and I'll look it up on the map.
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 1:08 AM
Look along the eastern coast- the entire Grand Strand. NO 3G Service here at all. VZW's web site shows it as well, but I can confirm there is absolutely none to be found.

VZW's actual 3G footprint is close to AT&T's, which for some reason shows right up on their map.
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 1:19 AM
verizon's actual 3g footprint blows ATT out of the water. Infact ATT themselves said in the lawsuit that they have no issues with Verizon advertising that their 3g network is larger.

Granted I mainly travel in northern and mid-adlantic states, but I have yet to be in an area where I don't have 3g coverage with my verizon phones, my brother cannot say the same with his att device.

And if you actually toggle the map to see Broadband/vcast (as in EVDO coverage) there are quite a few visible gaps on the east cost. There are also areas that show voice only coverage, or extended coverage (evdo rev0), it even marks out which areas are not native coverage. the east coast is not a solid band.
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 1:21 AM
Verizon's 3G Network is indeed larger and in some cities I've had better coverage with Verizon. No lie.

However, in many other cities I've had better coverage with AT&T- noticeably better, with faster download speeds to boot.

AT&T does need to grow their network, but I also have issue with Verizon Wireless telling me their 3G Network covers areas it doesn't.
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Menno

Nov 5, 2009, 1:25 AM
again, give me a zip code.

and cities are only 20% of the country (if that) there are millions of people who live, work, and relax outside of cities. That is where Verizon's coverage blows ATT out of the water (not everywhere, but as a national average)

I am not claiming that verizon is superior everywhere, but on par, it is better for most of the country in terms of land area covered. I dont know how it is down south, but in the NE, the real money, and thus the lucrative customers are not in the cities.

And if you have an issue with Verizon claiming 3g coverage where it isn't, you should have an equally large problem with ATT claiming to have "the fastest 3g network" when they are basing this off a (comparatively) handful of the...
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HawkeyeOC

Nov 5, 2009, 12:36 AM
bluecoyote said:
If you have low enough standards to sign up for them you have low enough standards to appreciate the same crappy service.


That was the only response you could think of? 🙄

-1 for you
+1 for Menno 🤣
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bluecoyote

Nov 5, 2009, 12:38 AM
That's your second wrong comment of the night.
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HawkeyeOC

Nov 5, 2009, 12:50 AM
Thats why we keep you around sir 🤣
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Overmann

Nov 5, 2009, 10:30 AM
Blah blah blah blah

I never, NEVER compare the Dare to an iPhone directly. It is NOT a smartphone, so it can't be compared to the iPhone, and I always let the customer know that. The same goes with the Rogue, the enV Touch, the Versa, etc. etc.

If you aren't getting email on your phone, or browsing the web all day, or running platform specific apps, you do not need a smartphone.

This also holds true of the iPhone. If you get it because it's shiny, you have to face the reality of the $30/mo data, and the mediocre (comparing to other AT&T phones!) signal strength.
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SprintCC

Nov 4, 2009, 11:05 PM
Simple, it is OK because Verizon decided they could push their customer's around and they wouldn't say anything about it- because they have a map for that.
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HawkeyeOC

Nov 5, 2009, 12:31 AM
SprintCC said:
Simple, it is OK because Verizon decided they could push their customer's around and they wouldn't say anything about it- because they have a map for that.


You must be right. All businesses are in business to push their customers around 🤣

Funny 🤣
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Menno

Nov 4, 2009, 11:37 PM
actually, most "verizon fanboys" get the idea of a higher etf for highly subsidized phones.
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