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devilsmafia

Nov 3, 2009, 3:56 PM
Those commercials make it very clear that they are referring to AT&T's 3G coverage and not their entire cell network coverage. I can't believe that AT&T is even considering spending the money on a lawsuit that they are going to lose.
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Chromemember

Nov 3, 2009, 4:01 PM
I don't think they are worried about losing money on a lawsuit, they want those damaging commercials to stop.
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Azeron

Nov 3, 2009, 5:23 PM
Agreed. Yes, the commercials clearly refer to 3G coverage and rather than fire back with a commercial stating that their 2.5G (Edge) coverage is almost as fast as Verizon's 3G in many cases (1x) AT&T has chosen to burn some of that money earned through iphone sales. I think they will lose, but it is going to be very entertaining to see how Verizon responds. Let's get some popcorn!
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techdiva44

Nov 3, 2009, 5:26 PM
lol......and in this corner with over 80 million customers, best US coverage and releasing updated Droid technology....Verizon.
and in this corner.....AT&T...oh look they have the iphone...didnt see that coming...
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Azeron

Nov 3, 2009, 5:29 PM
I love it! This is one of those King Kong versus Godzilla moments. READY! FIGHT!
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wirez

Nov 3, 2009, 5:39 PM
AT&T ....fail. I had to return my iPhone because... NO 3G coverage at my house. Twenty miles east of downtown Pittsburgh. Wtf AT&T? My Droid is coming Friday! I pre-ordrerd it last Friday. Four solid bars of EV-DO and four bars 1x for hundreds of miles around me.

AT&T does not want me as a jurist. Use the money for YOUR NETWORK...
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bluecoyote

Nov 3, 2009, 4:04 PM
Actually, Verizon Wireless makes it seem that the phones do not work in the 2G Coverage zones.
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jskrenes

Nov 3, 2009, 4:22 PM
I don't see how AT&T can say that Verizon implies that AT&T customers get no service. One commercial says "if you want to know why your friend's 3G coverage keeps her out of touch" and the other refers to "spotty 3G coverage," and follows up with the 'there's a map for that' line. Both commercials have the customer checking messages or web or something, so it's obvious they're doing non-voice related activities.

It's an uphill fight for AT&T on this one.
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bluecoyote

Nov 3, 2009, 5:28 PM
3G Coverage ┰  Data Coverage

"Both commercials have the customer checking messages or web or something, so it's obvious they're doing non-voice related activities."

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"If you want to know why your friend's 3G coverage keeps her out of touch"

So the ad is implying you're "out of touch" if you don't have 3G service from AT&T- this is false. AT&T still does data over 2G/EDGE. So there is no reason operating on a 2G Network would cause you to be unable to receive emails/tweets/facebook updates/ etc.
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Menno

Nov 3, 2009, 6:53 PM
it won't keep you from receiving it, but it significantly increases the amount of time it takes to get said data.
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Anxiovert

Nov 3, 2009, 8:50 PM
Menno, it seems like you havnt really used a 2G phone. It's not really that slow. If you're sending emails, MMS, texts, while on EDGE, you'll barely be able to tell the difference. It's not until you start downloading files, streaming video or doing heavy browsing (heavy pages) that you'll notice the difference.
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Menno

Nov 3, 2009, 9:17 PM
The only 2g I've used is my brother's flip phone.

All I know is when I send him a picture (after formatting it so att receives it) and he is on 3g he gets it really quickly. When I send it and he is on edge, it can take up to an hour for him to receive it.

Granted, this can be his phone as well, but I know a lot of my customers notice the difference between Edge and EVDO when they switch.
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Anxiovert

Nov 3, 2009, 8:45 PM
jskrenes said:
One commercial says "if you want to know why your friend's 3G coverage keeps her out of touch" .


Really? If I'm not in a 3G area I'm out of touch? Tell me, how is that? This is exaclty what AT&T is pissed off about. If I'm not in a 3G area I can still have data session (slower) but I CAN "keep in touch"
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tim6253

Nov 3, 2009, 8:51 PM
They can be pissed...but it's their own "There's an app for that" advertisement that pissed Verizon off and inspired their own : ) AT&T would have people believe that apps are only available on the iphone, and people without iphones are out of touch...c'mon...it's a taste of their own medicine!
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Anxiovert

Nov 3, 2009, 8:55 PM
tim6253 said:
AT&T would have people believe that apps are only available on the iphone, and people without iphones are out of touch...




Can you buy apps thru iTunes for a Blackberry Bold? Please tell me how, because I sure would like to get some of those apps in my Bold... 🙄
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cellguru906

Nov 3, 2009, 5:15 PM
If AT&T doesn't like the commercials maybe they should...I don't know...IMPROVE their 3G service. It clearly states in the commercial that VZW is talking about 3G services and not services in general. Quit whining AT&T and do something about it. Otherwise take the backseat to VZW which -- by the way-- you've been in that position for quite some time now.
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bluecoyote

Nov 3, 2009, 5:29 PM
AT&T is improving their service, that's beside the point, but that doesn't give Verizon Wireless to:

1) Make false claims

2) Imply AT&T's 2G Network does not handle data

3) Lie about their own coverage.
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Azeron

Nov 3, 2009, 5:35 PM
I think AT&T's best chance is to prove that the commercials imply data does not work on Edge. Unfortunately number three is not provable. Like it or not even CDMA2000 (1x) is by definition 3G. I know, I know you would like for it to be strictly their EV-DO coverage but *Shrug* it's not up to you. I just want to see how Verizon responds. This is going to be good!
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bluecoyote

Nov 3, 2009, 5:45 PM
I think #1 is what AT&T is going for with the lawsuit. The real pity is that EDGE is slightly faster in many cases than 1X, with its lower latency rate.
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wirez

Nov 3, 2009, 5:47 PM
Agreed, it just brings more attention to the fact their 3G is VW>AT&T
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bluecoyote

Nov 3, 2009, 5:51 PM
Well if VZW's definition of 3G is what AT&T's 2G is... 3G on AT&T is clearly better...
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Azeron

Nov 3, 2009, 6:11 PM
Now, now, now...it is NOT Verizon's definition. Maybe AT&T should sue the 3G forum and force them to define Edge as 3G?
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devon613

Nov 3, 2009, 6:05 PM
it doesnt matter the commercial is a lie they dont have that much 3g coverage no one does and att maps does have more 3g coverage than that map on the commercial get an updated map and you will find out. all in all verizon and att are both over rated with there prices being way to high and people are dum enough to pay it. verizon is not worth the price when u can get more out of att.. but att does not have as great coverage but its not the worse either...so keep hating on both both companys offer somethings better than the other...by the att has the biggest mobile to mobile network not verizon...
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shiftmobile

Nov 3, 2009, 6:13 PM
How could ATT have the biggest mobile to mobile network?!? They have less subscribers than Verizon, too funny! Technically Sprint has the largest mobile to mobile network now with that plan of theirs. Although I'm by no means a Sprint fan but at least I'm not ignorant enough to acknowledge the truth.
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Azeron

Nov 3, 2009, 6:22 PM
Any Mobile Anytime is not available on all Sprint plans though. Only on the Everything Data Plan. When all Sprint customers with Mobile to Mobile calling have it THEN they can make that claim.
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devon613

Nov 3, 2009, 6:25 PM
everybody has that sprint plan all it is...is unlimited mins and data so sorry smart guy....and go do the math we do have the largest mobile to mobile network u have to look at per line...
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