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ItsSprintnotwalk

Oct 22, 2009, 2:33 PM
๐Ÿ˜ฒ I doubt it this adminastration lives by doing things behind the scenes as they try to socialize our country..

๐Ÿ‘€ Good Luck keeping them from taxing the internet//
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phone12345

Oct 22, 2009, 2:57 PM
So you don't think that a verizon customer should be able to access any site they want on their PDA. You agree that Verizon should be able to criple their internet access??? ๐Ÿคญ
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Menno

Oct 23, 2009, 8:06 AM
you can already reach any site you want from your PDA, the only thing holding you back is coding issues (most phones don't support flash and advanced codec) this was done without regulation.
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WiWavelength

Oct 22, 2009, 2:58 PM
ItsSprintnotwalk said:
๐Ÿ˜ฒ I doubt it this adminastration lives by doing things behind the scenes as they try to socialize our country..

๐Ÿ‘€ Good Luck keeping them from taxing the internet//


The Internet has become a public utility. It should be socialized -- just like public schools, police/fire, roads & highways, water & sewer, et al.

Lose your under informed, irrational fear of socialism. It is an entrenched aspect of the society that you take for granted everyday.

AJ
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murmermer

Oct 23, 2009, 3:00 PM
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WOW... I don't know whats scarier what I just read or the fact that you believe a bunch of business school drop outs and lawyers know how to run a country better than the citizens themselves.

You must have major self esteem issues knowing that you can't trust yourself to use the internet properly without the Senate telling you what is okay to look at.
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phone12345

Oct 22, 2009, 3:05 PM
You listen to Glen Beck don't you!! ๐Ÿ˜
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ItsSprintnotwalk

Oct 22, 2009, 3:24 PM
I have no problem with net neutrality...

I was commenting on the idea that they will be transparent and so far this Adminastrations people have been anything but...

I listen to ๐Ÿ™‚ Beck but I also listen to other ssources, and think for myself...

and I think I cannot trust our President to do whats best for us, just what he thinks is best for himself or people he agree's with.
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Azeron

Oct 22, 2009, 5:01 PM
Wow you are THAT guy from the Forum, aren't you? Listen, I am anything but an Obama fan but even a broken clock is right twice a day. You can't align yourself against every Obama policy and think that you are doing the right thing. Net Neutrality is one of those rare cases where Obama has the right of it. It is protecting our personal freedom as consumers.
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Kagehiru

Oct 22, 2009, 5:02 PM
The Net Neutrality debate, and the involvement of the FCC with it, was around before Obama was elected president. I realize you're pushing a political/idealogocial agenda and not one regarding the current discussion, but you'll be far more successful pushing said agenda if you know what we're discussing.
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ItsSprintnotwalk

Oct 22, 2009, 10:10 PM
๐Ÿ˜‰ I already agreed and I an learning more about the subject.

As to agenda, no I don't have one except a blirted out comment about people who thus far are selling out our country and freedoms. It is opinion based on observed fact, Goldman Sac's etc... not to mention the recent direct attack on a network by a President and his cronies... this is a warning to us, if he is willing to openly attack the "free press" not argue the ideas themselves, then he is not beyond taking away other freedoms.

If he thinks he is right ague the issues, not attack the network and try to bully other networks to ignore them... Nixon was Bad for the country once... Lets not let it happen again.

oh stepping down off my soap box.

still reading on th...
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murmermer

Oct 23, 2009, 3:04 PM
Glen beck is a great American, don't get me wrong, but I am more of a Michael Savage kind of guy.

My Conservative top 5-
Michael Savage
Mark Lavin
Glen Beck
Laura Ingram
O'Reilly
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DonM

Oct 24, 2009, 8:02 AM
So you live in a fact free world????
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murmermer

Oct 24, 2009, 10:58 AM
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hmm... and you dedicated your life to ACORN?
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WiWavelength

Oct 24, 2009, 11:41 AM
murmermer said:
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hmm... and you dedicated your life to ACORN?


You are blind to all the good that ACORN has done for the historically poor & underprivileged; instead, you focus on a few controversies that support your self centered agenda. Your disdain for people less self sufficient than you are is absolutely disgusting. You come across as both a bigot & a racist. Where is your humanity?! If you are truly the religious person you purport to be, your so called god would be ashamed of you.

AJ
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murmermer

Oct 24, 2009, 11:51 AM
ya, like allowing prostitution of under age illegal immigrants, tax evasion and even cheating a presidential election. Not to mention all the paperwork they falsify in order to get families into welfare!

I bet you love watching your world collapse around you as the sleeping giant begins to wake here in he USA!
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japhy

Oct 23, 2009, 11:18 AM
The Internet is already extensively taxed - through taxes levied against ISPs (they are, after all, businesses), which are passed down to the customer along with inflated and artificial fees with which the ISPs seek to offset their own tax losses. There's also been legislation passed at the Federal & state level (in multiple states) that allows for online purchases to be taxed at similar or identical to in-store/onsite retail or industrial purchases. There's already an ongoing (and much lower profile) debate over it. Net Neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Net Neutrality (which you would know if you knew ANYTHING about Net Netrality) is about controlling access to information, or rather, the lack thereof. The only...
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PooFlinger1

Oct 26, 2009, 8:47 AM
Maybe you know something about net neutrality that I don't. But from what I understand, it's not about re-directing traffic to preferred vendors. It's about limiting bandwidth or filtering traffic based on traffic type.

When data packets are transferred, the header data in them can identify what type of packet it is and what it is for (ex: http, ssh, ping, etc.).

Currently, there are some ISPs that THROTTLE or limit the ammount of available bandwidth for certain types of traffic such as torrents, and streaming video. Net Neutrality proposes that the ISPs must treat ALL traffic the SAME. So they can no longer say we are allowing you to use as much bandwidth as you want for X Y and Z services, but if you use A B or C services, you ...
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WiWavelength

Oct 26, 2009, 10:41 AM
PooFlinger1 said:
Maybe you know something about net neutrality that I don't. But from what I understand, it's not about re-directing traffic to preferred vendors. It's about limiting bandwidth or filtering traffic based on traffic type.


Yes & no. Net Neutrality does address -- among many other issues -- cogent concerns about blocking or degrading Internet traffic.

Read this well documented quote from former AT&T chairman & CEO Ed Whitacre:

"How do you think [Internet upstarts like Google, MSN, Vonage, and others are] going to get to customers? Through a broadband pipe. Cable companies have them. We have them. Now what they would like to do is use my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them ...
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