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To those who say it's not fair?

Mektah

Oct 2, 2009, 7:50 AM
I want to know if you also disagree with having to have insurance on a vehicle is wrong.
What about having to wear seat belts(exception to the one state with no seat belt law, and to GA for their pick-up exception). What about drinking and driving? Can any of you explain why you tolerate these laws, but anything about a cell phone 'violates' your rights.

Second question, would it make a difference if it was just texting that was banned and that handless was ok?
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motodude69

Oct 2, 2009, 8:53 AM
To answer the above stated questions, Insurance on a vehicle should be an option for YOUR own benefit. Wearing a seatbelt, it is for YOUR own safety. Drinking and driving, that is against YOUR own well being.

How many people do not get insurance to cut costs? Or not wear a seat belt running up to the store which is half a block up the road? Or drink and drive because they feel they are "ok enough to drive?"

These are everyday instances of people doing thing "illigally." Is it against their best interest, probably, but they do it anyways.

As for the original topic at hand, let them pass a law to ban cell phone use in vehicles. My point is that people are still going to "break the law" anyways. Just because our government says don't d...
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bp3dots1

Oct 2, 2009, 9:45 AM
apparently you've never headr of drunk drivers killing other, non drunk, people on the roads. It happens everyday. So drinking and driving laws are NOT solely about the drunk's well being.

Uninsured people who get in accidents cause thousands of dollars in damage and medical bills to people. And they get off the hook because the RESPONSIBLE person's insurance covers them, and the responsible person has to pay higher premiums. Again, a law that is intended for everyone, not just the cheapass who wont even get laibility coverage.

As for seatbelts, I can see your point.
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motodude69

Oct 2, 2009, 10:03 AM
bp3dots1 said:
apparently you've never headr of drunk drivers killing other, non drunk, people on the roads. It happens everyday. So drinking and driving laws are NOT solely about the drunk's well being.


I understand this, I chose not to elborate any further on behalf the bystandard. I was just stating a form of responsibility, not solely on just the intoxicated driver.

bp3dots1 said:
Uninsured people who get in accidents cause thousands of dollars in damage and medical bills to people. And they get off the hook because the RESPONSIBLE person's insurance covers them, and the responsible person has to pay higher premiums. Again, a law that is intended for everyone, not just the cheapa
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bp3dots1

Oct 2, 2009, 10:53 AM
ok. thanks for clarifying!
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donebrasko

Oct 2, 2009, 3:52 PM
Wow thats how you debate lol
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CellStudent

Oct 2, 2009, 11:41 PM
My wife was in an uninsured collision and didn't report it right away. So the guy drove off and my isurance covered it and my premium was not affected, so all is well, right?

Wrong! Now all the responsible insurance holders in my insurance company have to collectively come up with $10,000 to settle my claim.

Such idiocy has a societal toll. The great question is HOW to fix it equitably and keep a free market system. We'll be debating that until you and I and everyone we will ever meet are buried deep in the cold, cold ground.
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CellStudent

Oct 2, 2009, 11:27 PM
On the seatbelt argument, those who do not have seatbelts on during a collision cause huge societal problems. Starting with poor highway patrol officer who has to live with the image of your brain splattered on the steering wheel all the way down to having 10 to 100 times the medical cost to repair your body.

Neither of those things is good for society at large,regardless of personal fanaticism. It's not JUST about individualism and it never should be.

Your poor behavior affects everyone living on the same continent as you and sometimes further.
/end rant
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donebrasko

Oct 2, 2009, 2:47 PM
Well I guess that we will not be able to talk to other passengers while driving next. What about blinking? Will I be able to do that? What if my kids are yelling and i am driving. You are already trying to tell me that I am not allowed to spank them, can I at least look their direction in the mirror and tell them to hush?

This is rediculous.

But you cant complain. Who voted for him? Someone did. All this is is him trying to take out the easy stuff so that he can say that he made a difference. All the other stuff is too hard for him to do so why not go for the easy targets. Its the same as video games. No one has said a word about the semi porn videos and all the violence, but put it in a game and you have to let Congress pass a law to ...
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Gorillanorth

Oct 3, 2009, 4:12 PM
I don't understand your position? Why is it ok to ban it while driving a bus but not anything else? Here is an idea why don't you actually take the time to educate yourself on the subject. There are plenty of studies on the subject of texting/talking while driving. Ill tell you what I will save you some time they all say that talking and driving is as dangerous or even more dangerous as driving drunk. Another study says that at anyone time there are about a million people on there cell phones while on the road and that number is increasing. It also says that texting or talking hands free or not, that you are 5 times more likely to have an accident. It amazes me that people are so stupid and selfish that you condemn the man that is trying hel...
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MizzSprint

Oct 5, 2009, 8:19 AM
You know what I came in here to find that one person that would question Obama as a president. I swear people will not let this man live it down that he was elected president, get over it you have 3 more years (hopefully 7) of bitterness to come, get over yourself. Your arguement makes no sense. He isn't doing anything to you but saving someone's life. Hell, he might be even saving yours. I bet if you had someone that was injured by a texting driver your views would be totally different. I will proudly scream out I VOTED FOR HIM! He's not the only one to point fingers at what about everyone that he had to go through to get this approved.

OH yeah, the bill of rights was made when cell phones weren't around I'm sure if they did have cell p...
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donebrasko

Oct 2, 2009, 2:51 PM
Dont get me started abotu seat bealts. I do not think that we should be forced to wear them. The reason I say this is because of motorcycles. Whats more dangerous riding a motorcycle or riding in a car without seatbelts? If seatbelts are a law then motorcycles should be outlawed. The government is telling us whats safe and whats not. How many people die from motorcycle accidents compared to car accidents without seatbelts. I guarantee that the injuries are more severe and more fatal with the motorcycle.

sorry I do wear my seatbelt but its stupid to force others if we are gonna let anyone with half a brain ride a motorcycle.

There should be a law for children to wear them though.
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captainplooky

Oct 2, 2009, 2:56 PM
donebrasko said:
Dont get me started abotu seat bealts. I do not think that we should be forced to wear them.

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There should be a law for children to wear them though.


Cognitive dissonance at it's best.
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donebrasko

Oct 2, 2009, 3:37 PM
@Palookey,

How is making children wear them contradictory? A child does not know whats good for them. They are not able to make a sound decision. Therefore make a law for underage children (just like car seats). Adults, on the other hand, are responsible for their choices and must accept the consequecnes. Yes its safer to wear them, but dont use that as an excuse to stop and harrass someone. You dont have to force it on them. but again thats my opinion.

If you are gonna enforce seatbelts, then ban motorcycles.
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Gorillanorth

Oct 4, 2009, 3:01 PM
Apparently you do not know what is good for you and the majority of people on the road are the same. Which is why they made it the law. The seat belt law was put into effect to save lives but also to save millions of dollars in insurance payouts which everyone that has insurance pays for so you wearing your seat belt not only helps you but helps every one.
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Gorillanorth

Oct 3, 2009, 4:25 PM
Your seat belt argument doesn't hold up for the simple fact that most states have helmet laws. The reason there are seatbelt laws are to keep you safe. This is a law because again people are to stupid to do it without there being one. If only we were less selfish and less stupid laws like these wouldn't be necessary!
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captainplooky

Oct 2, 2009, 3:02 PM
These are people looking for any reason to complain.

When you explain that studies show that texting/talking while driving can be worse than driving while intoxicated - they dismiss it.

When you explain that this applies only to Federal employees and intra/interstate commercial transport and that states are making the decisions individually in regards to their citizens - they dismiss it.

They don't want 'their' rights violated, all the while caring not if the exercising of those rights limits and/or removes the rights of others. For example, "I can talk on my cellphone, if I kill someone it's my fault and I'll be responsible for it."
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donebrasko

Oct 2, 2009, 3:49 PM
Im not complaining. I am stating my opinion.


"When you explain that studies show that texting/talking while driving can be worse than driving while intoxicated - they dismiss it."---

That may be true, but i would have to see these studies. I dont think its worse. I think that there are more people texting than driving drunk. If you had to ride with a drunk driver or a texter, who would you choose?

"When you explain that this applies only to Federal employees and intra/interstate commercial transport and that states are making the decisions individually in regards to their citizens - they dismiss it."

It applies to federal employees only "at the moment". That is all it take to pass it on down to othe...
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MizzSprint

Oct 5, 2009, 8:24 AM
You have an excuse for everything.
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