AT&T Wants FCC to Probe Google Voice
Retaliate much?
Hey, AT&T, retaliate much? Because this is retaliation, plain & simple. Google ratted you out about the rejection of Google Voice, showed that you & Apple in your cabal were abusing power by limiting consumer choice, not to mention lying about it to the FCC. And now, coincidentally, you point your finger at Google. This the playground equivalent of whining, "But he did it, too!"
You are pathetic, AT&T...
AJ
You are pathetic, AT&T...
AJ
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Great point! I hope the FCC fines them for frivolous complaint and flat out wasting their time with this clearly retaliatory complaint.
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you guys simply do not understand the complexity of the issue at hand here. i can't stand at&t for more reasons than any of you, but one thing i have to give them credit for is fighting this. the issue isn't really about 'google voice' but it's about how calls are billed and who pays for them. google voice is really only free because of a few loop holes in regulation. if you guys knew even just a piece of how the regulated telco industry is, than you would know why this IS such a big deal. i use google voice for convince, but i also know it may not last. seriously, do some research into how much it really cost to make a call and the fact that google is side stepping paying for the calls is something that the fcc really should look into. ther...
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crackberry said:
you guys simply do not understand the complexity of the issue at hand here.
Apparently, you do not understand "the complexity of the issue" either. Google -- and, by extension, Google Voice -- is neither a common carrier nor an ISP. So, common carrier regulations and nascent Net neutrality rules do not apply.
crackberry said:seriously, do some research into how much it really cost to make a call and the fact that google is side stepping paying for the calls is something that the fcc really should look into.
Indeed, the FCC should look into the outrageous termination fees that some landline monopolies charge. That is the real underlying problem.
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WiWavelength said:
Indeed, the FCC should look into the outrageous termination fees that some landline monopolies charge. That is the real underlying problem.
AJ
that's whole point i was making. you think it's at&t that's charging the high termination fees on calls, it's not. it's the rural carriers that are doing it. those are the numbers google is blocking.
and your ignorance blossoms when you say 'some landline monopolies'..................
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crackberry said:
that's whole point i was making. you think it's at&t that's charging the high termination fees on calls, it's not. it's the rural carriers that are doing it. those are the numbers google is blocking.
No, do not ever attribute something to me that I did not think or assert. That is just your flawed assumption. I am perfectly aware that AT&T, et al., is just as frustrated as Google is over some (rural) landline monopolies' egregious termination fees.
crackberry said:and your ignorance blossoms when you say 'some landline monopolies'..................
"[S]ome landline monopolies" is a perfectly accurate statement. If you challenge that, then educat...
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WiWavelength said:
But chances are that I have forgotten more about telecom than you know.
Cheers!
AJ
possibly, but saying 'some monopolies' is a bit of a contradiction.
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crackberry said:
possibly, but saying 'some monopolies' is a bit of a contradiction.
No, not a contradiction. Our telco system consists of many localized monopolies, plural.
AJ
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It cost carriers little to nothing to provide voice and NOTHING to provide SMS and MMS. They are raping us with no Vaseline and no kiss. $.45 per minute overages? Please. There is a reason that resellers like Page Plus can buy a block of minutes from Verizon and sell their unlimited plan for $39.99 per month. Something Verizon charges $119.99 per month for. Same network...so what are you really paying for? Commercials? Raking money into fat cat's pockets. Voice is flat. ANYTHING they can coax out of your pockets for voice is cake. ANYTHING you pay for SMS or MMS is icing.
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no, i am not high. but nothing was said of sms and mms.
the point i was getting at was the unfair cost of terminating calls. that is the issue.
the point i was getting at was the unfair cost of terminating calls. that is the issue.
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Vaseline is bad to use with condoms (assuming you use them), cause the oils break down the latex.
You should use some silicone based lube instead.
And if its a kiss you want, your mom is always willing to give you one.
OOOHHHH SNAP!
Thats a total joke by the way.
You should use some silicone based lube instead.
And if its a kiss you want, your mom is always willing to give you one.
OOOHHHH SNAP!
Thats a total joke by the way.
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the issue isn't really about 'google voice' but it's about how calls are billed and who pays for them. google voice is really only free because of a few loop holes in regulation.
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If the issue is how the calls are billed and who pays for them, and AT&T has a problem, then it must really be an issue that AT&T wants to control the billing for Google. So let them...
And who pays for it? Advertising and investors from Google. Whats the difference between an investor and a consumer paying the bill? Its still getting paid.
the issue isn't really about 'google voice' but it's about how calls are billed and who pays for them. google voice is really only free because of a few loop holes in regulation.
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If the issue is how the calls are billed and who pays for them, and AT&T has a problem, then it must really be an issue that AT&T wants to control the billing for Google. So let them...
And who pays for it? Advertising and investors from Google. Whats the difference between an investor and a consumer paying the bill? Its still getting paid.
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And who pays the advertisers? Consumers. Nothing is free. Just because you don't get a bill with Google's logo on it, doesn't mean they're not charging you.
They charge their advertisers, who then roll those costs into the price of their goods and services. It's like those mythical "corporate taxes". Everything is ultimately payed by the consumer.
They charge their advertisers, who then roll those costs into the price of their goods and services. It's like those mythical "corporate taxes". Everything is ultimately payed by the consumer.
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AJ -
Who is your wireless carrier... Mine is Sprint, who pretty much lets its customers do what they want, when they want... Much like the former T-Mobile.
Who is your wireless carrier... Mine is Sprint, who pretty much lets its customers do what they want, when they want... Much like the former T-Mobile.
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