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LTE is GSM and Verizon will experience Problems

garysturn

Sep 25, 2009, 10:35 AM
Anytime you move to a new system you will have problems. AT&T experienced problem when if moved to GSM and so will Verizon when it starts to move to GSM next year. Verizon's image will take the hit in the move but it is necessary for them to move to GSM. AT&T and T-Mobile will profit from Verizon's move because they already have gone through the transition and are well established in GSM. Verizon's move will be painful to them just like it was to the others when they moved.
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Disrespect

Sep 25, 2009, 10:47 AM
Ummm, LTE is NOT GSM. Its LTE. Yes it uses Sim cards Like GSM even Iden uses sim cards but that doesn't make it GSM. LTE is LTE.
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Azeron

Sep 25, 2009, 11:32 AM
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cellgeek82

Sep 25, 2009, 11:42 AM
Verizon made CDMA work better than Sprint or Alltel and any other CDMA network. Why would they fail now, they said that network quality is a must.

And LTE isn't GSM, why does everyone think that? This is a whole new platform.

I'm so suprised about how many people can tell the future. Hey folks, when will be the end of days? Can someone tell me when the 2nd coming of Christ? Or let me know what phones will be available next year? Tell me now, since some on here knows the future of LTE!

Where is Doc and Marty? I want that flying Delorian now! 😎
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crood

Sep 25, 2009, 12:48 PM
Also, it's not like they're switching to LTE. They're adding it, most likely for data only at first, on a completely different band from the their CDMA service.
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WiWavelength

Sep 25, 2009, 3:46 PM
cellgeek82 said:
Verizon made CDMA work better than Sprint or Alltel and any other CDMA network.


Really? "Verizon made CDMA work better than...any other CDMA network"? Evidence? Unsubstantiated assertions have all the worth of toilet tissue.

cellgeek82 said:Why would they fail now, they said that network quality is a must.


VZW's "network quality" is largely a marketing concept.

AJ
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Azeron

Sep 25, 2009, 5:07 PM
AJ, is CDMA superior to GSM in your opinion?
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WiWavelength

Sep 25, 2009, 5:33 PM
Azeron said:
AJ, is CDMA superior to GSM in your opinion?


For numerous reasons, CDMA has the far superior airlink, GSM the better underlying MAP network. But CDMA wisely decided to retain the older IS-41 underlying network, as it maintained compatibility w/ AMPS. That dual mode capability was crucial to the early growth of CDMA across the vast US and is the primary reason why CDMA still has a substantial domestic coverage advantage over GSM to this day.

AJ
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Azeron

Sep 25, 2009, 5:40 PM
That's a yes...I think. Now. Next question: Is 850mHz superior to 1900 (again in your humble opinion)?
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WiWavelength

Sep 26, 2009, 2:04 PM
Azeron said:
Next question: Is 850mHz superior to 1900 (again in your humble opinion)?


Here is an incomplete answer:

Each has its advantages. Cellular 850 MHz experiences approximately 7 dB less propagation loss than does PCS 1900 MHz propagation. That means that Cellular 850 MHz is more suitable for low cell site density networks, as it can cover greater area w/ the same or greater intensity. On the other hand, the increased path loss of PCS 1900 MHz is more suitable for high cell site density networks, such as those in urban areas, as increased cellular reuse can function as a bandwidth multiplier for higher data rates.

So, an ideal domestic wireless network would deploy the same airlink in bot...
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Azeron

Sep 26, 2009, 7:28 PM
So...Sprint's all PCS (1900mHz) network is well suited for the areas which they have chosen to cover. While Verizon's network which is mostly 850mHz with exceptions being Houston Gulf Coast, Florida I'm not sure but possibly areas out west---is well suited for what? I know that you are not a fan of Verizon (understatement?) but you seem to be of the opinion that the Network is not all it's cracked up to be. With the addition of Alltel's rural coverage which was 850mHz pretty much everywhere they seem to have a serious advantage. What do you think?
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CellStudent

Sep 28, 2009, 11:20 AM
1900 MHz also has slightly faster data connection rates compared to the same technology deployed in the 850 MHz band.

So, if you're in an outdoor area where building impedance is not a problem, you'll do better sticking with the higher frequency bands.

Just wait and see what happens 10 years from now when everybody decommissions all the 3G 1900 MHz spectrum and moves it all to 4G or 5G. WOW!
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vzwinagent

Sep 26, 2009, 10:53 AM
You've obviously not used Verizon if you think it's a marketing plow.
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vzwinagent

Sep 26, 2009, 10:53 AM
How about ploy! LOL No plows...
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CellStudent

Sep 28, 2009, 11:23 AM
TDMA to GSM was a network MIGRATION.

CDMA w/ LTE is a network OVERLAY.

LTE is on completely different spectrum with completely different end-user hardware. Consumers with 4G only devices will be upset when they leave coverage areas and their cell phones still work, but nothing related to LTE deployment will have any impact on existing 2G or 3G network operation for VZW, AT&T, CLEAR or anyone else.
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Azeron

Sep 28, 2009, 5:37 PM
There should never be any LTE only devices. The initial devices should be USB devices which operate on LTE, EV-DO (Mobile Broadband) and 1x (National Access). Then they should produce PDA/Smartphones which include 1x/EV-DO and LTE.
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