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Not too shabby!

VDubb

Sep 18, 2009, 1:49 PM
Not bad, T-Mobile. Depending on the performance, I might go back to T-Mobile. They have the best voice quality in my area with top-notch coverage, but their speeds (yes, 3G) were pathetic compared to Sprint. If T-Mobile gets HSPA+ up and running before Sprint or VZW gets 4G in my area (which seems very likely), I might go back.

Also, AT&T...that damn network is a joke. HSPA 7.2. by 2011...when T-Mobile will have HSPA+ by 2010, VZW is beginning to release trial markets for LTE, and Sprint/Clearwire are actively rolling out WiMAX. I seriously can't wait for the iPhone to leave them and watch the people flock away.
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asLeepLessman

Sep 18, 2009, 1:58 PM
I dont think the Iphone is going to leave them and I dont think the Iphone will be enough to keep them in the near future neither.

I also dont know how much of this will see its end result as It seems more and more likely everyday that T-Mobile is going to be involved with Sprint somehow in the near/distant future.

T-Mobile & Sprint have been making a lot of power moves recently. We are going to see a lot of changes in the Mobile industry real soon.
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Jayshmay

Sep 18, 2009, 3:28 PM
That part where you said you don't think the Iphone will be enough in the near future. . .
I agree, with things like Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor, more phones with flash, anyway my point is phones these days are getting more and more sophisticated, Iphone will be old news next year.
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asLeepLessman

Sep 18, 2009, 5:50 PM
I think the only thing keeping the Iphone alive today is the promise of MMS on the 25th.

I also agree with you on the time frame. I dont see the Iphone being a killer of any-type in 2010. Just AT&T's flag ship. People already want more then the Iphone can offer.

Touchscreen phones are not limited to Iphone clones any longer. The future is rushing at us.
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MisterSuperSzar

Sep 19, 2009, 1:10 AM
Agreed. Finally, we are starting to see some criticism for the Iphone. I'll admit that when it was first introduced, it was revolutionary. But, the thing that makes it so great is Apple's legendary marketing. Seriously, I've had some ridiculous conversations which start with me asking what kind of phone they have and what they are looking for. "Oh, we want the iphone." Me: "Why's that?" Customer: "Well, the commercials say it is such a great phone.", or some close derivative. Me: "I'll tell you what, the _____ phone can do this that and the other, which are all things that the Iphone can't do, plus it's running on a network that is not up to par to carrier X. Let me show you a device that you will love much more than the Iphone, especially w...
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asLeepLessman

Sep 19, 2009, 2:22 PM
lol. Thats kinda harsh. Iphone isn't crappy and neither is AT&T's network. The point however remains the same though, it isn't the best nor close to it... to be honest. It was a decent phone for its time but its time has come and went. Now its not a phone your buying but a name brand; Apple. I suppose thats how a lot of people shop but, when it comes to phones, you should shop phones, not name brands. Also, before you consider a phone, you should shop networks. Then pick a phone from the network that matches your needs. Sadly, people chose the Iphone, for the Iphone and don't consider the network.

The Iphone will keep making money but the hype is gradually depleting.

I think AT&T and Apple should ride the Iphone until the wheels fall ...
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crood

Sep 21, 2009, 9:37 AM
The iPhone is rapidly approaching the market saturation point. Anyone who really wants one and can afford one has one provided that AT&T has coverage where they live. Until LTE is widespread, I don't see anything a next-generation iPhone will provide that will truly lure anyone by diehard techies to it.

The only real way to delay saturation in the U.S. is to end AT&T's exclusivity and make a CDMA version. The only real growth potential is with Verizon/Sprint/Tmobile loyalists and those with poor AT&T coverage.
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asLeepLessman

Sep 22, 2009, 4:41 PM
Wish I could take back some of the things I said about the Iphone. Some of them, though true, aren't the point anymore.

See, about 2 days (Sunday night) I was having a debate about the cell phone industry with a friend. We tend to debate a lot and about pretty much anything. This is how our friendship is, was and will be, by choice.

Anyway, in this particular debate, we were talking about the possibility of the Iphone on other providers and what impact it may or may not cause.

Long story short, we both reached a agreement (very rare, we usual will debate no matter if we are right or wrong for the pure sake of debating, but, sometimes we do agree because debating would take too much effort).

The Iphone is a Design. Nothing more,...
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Slammer

Sep 18, 2009, 6:14 PM
My personal opinion is that Sprint and Tmo should not merge just yet. While I know both are met with financial struggles and a union could catapult to them to possibly become the second largest carrier, It could in turn stifle the price wars that are still desperately needed.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2009, 2:46 PM
Well HSPA+ is better then nothing, they really need to be going to LTE.

OH, and flock away? Maybe to VZW, but I doubt to TMO, even with their deployment of HSPA+ which is nice, they will still have a far smaller 3g footprint then any other major carrier in the US.

Also having hspa+ is nice, but one must also have the devices to support it. By the time they come into force, LTE towers will be up everywhere. Be it VZW or ATT.
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terryjohnson16

Sep 18, 2009, 3:20 PM
If T-Mobile is pushing HSPA+, you can bet that they are working with the manufacturers to have them on the devices for next year. T-Mobile is still upgrading to 7.2 in some areas, yet their phones can handle it now.
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VDubb

Sep 18, 2009, 3:41 PM
I don't care if it's smaller as long as it's available where I need it (and it is). You also realize that HSPA+ devices have already start releasing in Europe? Do you honestly believe that T-Mobile won't have HSPA+ devices until 2011? That they're going to build up HSPA+ just to have no device support it for 6-12 months?
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Jayshmay

Sep 18, 2009, 3:49 PM
Really? Tell me what devices are available in Europe that are HSPA+, not including laptop modems.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2009, 4:40 PM
Jayshmay said:
Really? Tell me what devices are available in Europe that are HSPA+, not including laptop modems.


And then there's porting them to 1700 aws.
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Jayshmay

Sep 18, 2009, 6:55 PM
Well, there's always as I like to call it that pocket laptop the Nokia N900 that has 1700 3G.
I am seriously thinking about getting next years version of the N900 and switching to Tmo, that is if Nokia doesn't put out an ATT 3G compatible N900.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2009, 10:56 PM
Jayshmay said:
Well, there's always as I like to call it that pocket laptop the Nokia N900 that has 1700 3G.
I am seriously thinking about getting next years version of the N900 and switching to Tmo, that is if Nokia doesn't put out an ATT 3G compatible N900.


I don't blame you, it does seem real sweet, either they make a NAM version, or some follow up device.
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Jayshmay

Sep 19, 2009, 3:09 AM
WoW, I didn't know you were up this late. I just hope the next version of the N900 has an OLED screen, and considerably better battery. Ironically the N97 has a better battery than the N900.
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VDubb

Sep 18, 2009, 8:02 PM
You already stated it buddy, laptop modems. Don't start trying to get specific to help prove your argument. As of now, there are HSPA+ devices available.
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Jayshmay

Sep 18, 2009, 8:22 PM
Which ones? Any smartphones that I'm not aware of?
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VDubb

Sep 18, 2009, 9:01 PM
I don't know, you tell me. Never once mentioned anything about a smartphone, so you can probably do some Google research on that.
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cellfoneluva

Sep 18, 2009, 6:30 PM
Wishful thinking. First of all, AT&T and Apple aren't stupid. They got a great thing going. The iPhone is staying with AT&T. Get over it. Boo hoo hoo cry me a river cause you know your a$$es secretly want one. Stop frontin. Cause I bet if Verizon ever came out with an LTE based iPhone, you bitches won't walk but run to get one. Please

Secondly, can we please stop with the ridiculous, idiotic notion of T-Mobile and Sprint merging. You know it ain't gonna happen so cut the crap already. It's a stupid idea, not in the best interest of all involved. Not gonna happen. Again, read it and weep
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RockTripod

Sep 19, 2009, 3:00 PM
Your intelligence is stunning. Thank you for sharing your words of wisdom with the world.
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flip mode

Sep 19, 2009, 3:54 PM
To: cellfoneluva - change your tampon...you sound very irate there 🤣
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mingkee

Sep 18, 2009, 8:32 PM
It's good T-Mobile and Sprint are taking edge of data.
3G performance is pretty good in NYC, just behind Sprint, but better than ATT and VZW when tethered.
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