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AT&T to Officially Mandate Data Plans for All Smartphones

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Why no more Pay Per Use

Overmann

Aug 22, 2009, 9:11 AM
There's a very good reason why the Unlimited plan instead of PPU. PPU gets very expensive, as the phone has data usage with most of its applications. Too many customers call in complaining (I can use a stronger word but I won't) about mysterious huge charges for data because they forgot they only have the PPU plan.

So you want to block data? Not a good idea. This breaks a lot of the phone's features, including Picture Messaging.

If you are buying a smartphone, you are either Browsing the web a LOT, or you are doing Email a LOT. If you do neither of those, you do not need a smartphone, a normal phone will do the job.

It's like buying a full size Van (like Ford E350 full size) just to go to the grocery store and get a couple bags of p...
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PhonemanJ

Aug 22, 2009, 11:20 AM
Well Said!
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asLeepLessman

Aug 22, 2009, 11:32 AM
So you as a car dealer (AT&T Rep) will tell me; "Nope, Im sorry sir, but because all your doing is going to the grocery store and barber shop once a week, I can not sell you that Ford E350 you been wanting. I can however sell you this Econobox!"

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR MONEY?

Thats my problem with all this. You people keep talking about saving money and cheaper deals and less functions and whatever else you can think of it make this seem right. What you all fail to understand however is, ITS MY MONEY! If I want a Ford E350 to drive to my MAIL BOX at the end of the drive-way once a day, THATS MY CHOICE. Sell me the car, get paid and thats that. DO NOT tell me I should buy a Ford E350 Just to ...
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PhonemanJ

Aug 22, 2009, 12:33 PM
No, I am not denying you any choices at all. You can still purchase that E350 truck to drive to your mailbox daly. Still, you will have to get a larger insurance policy, pay more for your tags and getting 3 miles to the gallon means that your fuel bill will go up to. Just like buying a smartphone, your cost of usage goes up.
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asLeepLessman

Aug 22, 2009, 2:03 PM
What if I dont turn the truck on? I put it into nutral and let it roll back. My son agreed to Push it back up the drive-way every day with his friends.

Do I still need your "Fuel Saver Program?"
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Menno

Aug 22, 2009, 5:17 PM
Then you are making idiot choices, and the bad press your story generates when your son is hospitalized for a hernia from pushing your status symbol up to the house is not worth the profit the company gains from selling you a car that is totally wrong for you.

Cars are a poor analogy because once you buy them, your actions mean little to the company.

However, when you use a phone, you use the carriers data network, call into their customer care and complain, and demand cheap smartphones that you'll never use 90% of the features for.

If customers actually paid for charges they incurred instead of demanding credits for their stupidity, and carriers could sell smartphones at a higher cost without a data plan, such "rules" would not be ...
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DiamondPro

Aug 22, 2009, 3:00 PM
Your missing the big point. Would you like to be force to pay for On star or satillite radio? He had a choice to buy the truck but he was not force to pay a monthly connection fee for the gps navigator or XM satellite radio. As with a smartphone data plan on att you no longer have a choice. You do as they say. Wheither it fits your lifestyle or not.
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Pocket_Girl

Aug 22, 2009, 3:11 PM
Thank you. why arent these people understanding them main point about??? they are stuck on "well the phone has data capability so why not use the phone to its full potential?? why buy the phone if you dont want data service? buy another phone if you dont want the service??"
heelllooo people. they dont want it so why force it. you have a good example. and we have used many examples like yours but they come up with their own version of your story thats just as stupid as this data plan being forced. lets see how they twist your story to prove they are right.... even though they will still be stupid and wrong
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Overmann

Aug 24, 2009, 9:33 AM
So you say you want to buy a Ford EXCURSION V10 because you want one but you DON'T want to pay for the SIX to EIGHT Miles Per Gallon of fuel it costs to run it or the high insurance or the fuel eater tax?
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Kryger

Aug 24, 2009, 10:58 AM
youre an idiot. how about that story.

if u dont want data dont get aq smartphone. simple.

dont complain cause they company that supplies ur phone wants to make money.

capitalism ftw.
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Menno

Aug 22, 2009, 4:54 PM
Because unlike a car dealer, cell companies subsidize phones, and also have to listen to people complain when they're not responsible enough to NOT USE DATA WITHOUT A PLAN.

Essentially, this rule is another one created out of the "make people shut up" clause. Will they lose customers? Some. But they'll most likely save tens of thousands (if not more) in the costs of people arguing over Data charges on their bill.

Your handset is your connection to their network. They get to decide how things operate on their network, even if you own the handset. It is their money, it is their network, so it's their concern. If you want to make your own cellphone company and sell people Bold's for .99 cents so they can do nothing but call on it, th...
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marufio

Aug 25, 2009, 11:47 AM
Wrong attitude. Our network we can do whatever we want. I believe everybody is asking for fair pricing what this is I do not know I do know $30 is not the right pricing for everyone especially when Iphone users use a tyical 400MB. Not all smartphones are the same nor is every user the same. You have touchscreen smartphones which are the highest consumers of data then you have non touchscreen smartphones. All of this has to be taken into account especially those that get smartphones on a discount from the carrier as opposed to those that pay full retail. Customer service is how ATT can play the game.
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Phoner

Aug 25, 2009, 10:34 AM
Overmann said:
So you want to block data? Not a good idea. This breaks a lot of the phone's features, including Picture Messaging.

Not a good idea as long as you assume that I don't know what I'm doing. This is not the case.
If you are buying a smartphone, you are either Browsing the web a LOT, or you are doing Email a LOT. If you do neither of those, you do not need a smartphone, a normal phone will do the job.

I access the Internet and email on a computer (both at home and at work), and never outside wifi range. For my work email, I need to have my full work environment at hand anyway.

You're right though, I don't need a smartphone. I need a Windows Mobile-based ...
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ALL2020

Aug 25, 2009, 11:50 AM
Well said Phoner. 😁
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marufio

Aug 25, 2009, 11:57 AM
Im sure a dumbphone can browse the web alot and can read email alot. The difference is a dumbphone is just that dumb. Once you have owned a smartphone anything less is just uncivilized.
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