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ecycled

Aug 14, 2009, 3:49 PM
anyone else find it wierd that att at its worst point in service history is strangly quiet about upgrading the network to 4G. There has to be a reason.

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rigoni

Aug 14, 2009, 4:59 PM
becouse they dont have one at all, last in line doesent say anything
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ecycled

Aug 14, 2009, 5:12 PM
tmob is probably last in line on this one, out of the big carriers besides the rural guys. I've seen 1 news that said they were pushing for 2011 LTE but nothing since. Its like they don't care...about network competition. Let the iphone just rip the current one to shreds.

or maybe they are just laying low to avoid the FCC saying because you have 4G and the iphone you need to give up exclusivity.
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nexsprint

Aug 14, 2009, 5:35 PM
Did i miss something? What does 4g and the having exclusivity to the iphone have in common?

Nad news if AT&T is following apple's current business model of make minor updates but don't try to innovate cuz you are so far ahead. I got news for you, everyone else is catching up/passing you
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ecycled

Aug 14, 2009, 6:02 PM
""Did i miss something? What does 4g and the having exclusivity to the iphone have in common?""

not really anything in common just relating it to that exclusivity witchhunt thats going on, it brings about dumb arguements to break it up. Really who cares about exclusivity it just another business model.
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rigoni

Aug 14, 2009, 7:14 PM
i dont care who has the i phone this only has to do with the new 4g networks and that companys are offering them at this time the only 2 company are Verizen and Sprint as Clear, the other companys are still trying to complete that 3g network
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KeonIX86

Aug 15, 2009, 7:06 PM
Once the iphone loses it's exclusivity, Verizon will take it, ONLY if Apple make an iphone that has a removable battery and let's VZW work on replacements and troubleshooting. It will be hell of expensive but I'm sure it's worth the money, the iphone is electronic crack, and it will require data plans and probably more fees since it may run on 4G, but, it's tough to say right now how things are, but as far as JD POWER & ASSOC. are concerned, ALLTELL is on top of the charts followed by Verizon Wireless, then T-mobile, then AT&T, then Sprint. lol. I used to work for VZW and ATT, surprised ATT isn't doing well, cept for Apples iphone.
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Versed

Aug 15, 2009, 7:46 PM
KeonIX86 said:
Once the iphone loses it's exclusivity, Verizon will take it, ONLY if Apple make an iphone that has a removable battery and let's VZW work on replacements and troubleshooting. It will be hell of expensive but I'm sure it's worth the money, the iphone is electronic crack, and it will require data plans and probably more fees since it may run on 4G, but, it's tough to say right now how things are, but as far as JD POWER & ASSOC. are concerned, ALLTELL is on top of the charts followed by Verizon Wireless, then T-mobile, then AT&T, then Sprint. lol. I used to work for VZW and ATT, surprised ATT isn't doing well, cept for Apples iphone.


Love or hate the iphone, no matter, if Apple offered a CDMA ...
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kevinski

Aug 15, 2009, 10:41 PM
Incorrect. Verizon Wireless will let someone else have the iPhone and, as such, will let someone else deal with the support nightmares. Once LTE's good to go, then I'm sure that the people who want iPhones will get them and bring them to Verizon Wireless.

Frankly, I'm glad that I don't need to deal with selling the iPhone. Between most customers whining about wanting every single new iPhone that comes out and Apple's insistence on SLOWLY bringing the phone's functionality up to par with phones that've been around for years, I honestly don't see what all of the fuss is about. Oh, that's right: It has a lowercase "i" on the front of it.
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ygbhen

Aug 16, 2009, 10:20 AM
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We know that you are not serious and you would love to make the commission off the activations. Dont even try it. Whatever you say about the iPhone's functionality it is still one of the best mulitmedia devices on the market if not the best because of its robust app store and iTunes. Red kool aid anyone?
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kevinski

Aug 16, 2009, 6:20 PM
Your mistake would be thinking that I even receive commission. That's the flaw in a lot of people's approaches to sales. Wrong phone for the wrong person. It's not all about commission or stats.

Really, not everyone wants to be a tool who uses a phone as a status symbol.
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ForesterGump

Aug 14, 2009, 6:23 PM
If anything, the iPhone is playing catch-up, not vice versa. There is still a laundry list of things the iPhone doesn't have, yet it is considered a tech leader. Very confusing. ๐Ÿคจ
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Azeron

Aug 14, 2009, 7:12 PM
Yes, but it is the things that the Iphone CAN do that makes people slobber over themselves. I prefer RIM but it seems that the general public is all about the Iphone.
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Slammer

Aug 15, 2009, 9:57 AM
Not only the public, But also the media. They work together. The iphone has a huge interest, so the media flocks to report on this which further piques interests of readers or viewers. Now everywhere you turn, anything having to do with phones or related technology, there is some sort of picture or article given by news coverage with an iphone mentioned. Ohhh the power of media.
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ygbhen

Aug 16, 2009, 10:53 AM
That is what happens when a device captures hearts and pop culture. It is an amazing device even with its shortcomings. Apple changed the game with this device. I think they should be given proper credit for the buzz they are able to attract for their products. This product is not a media shoving something down our throats phone. Apple opened their app store which made this device the best thing since sliced bread to some. There were app stores before Apple but Apple took it 2 steps beyond the norm. There were touch screens before too but Apple took it and blew everything out of the water and there steill is not a touch screen on the market to date that has been able to recreate the user experience of the iPhone. And to think this did...
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wade496

Aug 15, 2009, 12:42 PM
reason as to why this is fairly big is that LTE will use sim cards. It will be the standard for the world. Iphone missed every other network in the US because it wasnt the world standard.
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Versed

Aug 15, 2009, 7:49 PM
wade496 said:
reason as to why this is fairly big is that LTE will use sim cards. It will be the standard for the world. Iphone missed every other network in the US because it wasnt the world standard.


iPhone uses GSM which is the world standard not CDMA. Should Apple make a CDMA iPhone, in my opinion, yes.
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wade496

Aug 15, 2009, 11:17 PM
wont make a cdma version. Verizon wont see the i-phone until LTE because that will be the world standard. If you read my post I say that the reason it missed everyone else is because of this.
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ygbhen

Aug 16, 2009, 10:35 AM
It did not miss everyone else just a handful of CDMA carriers. It probably will still miss VZ and CDMA carriers alike if Apple decided not to make a LTE-CDMA dual mode phone. Who is even say that Apple is going to be willing to serve such a small potential base when the overwhelming majority of the world will be LTE-GSM. It would be silly for VZ to accept a phone that would only work in 30 markets. Also, VZ said that LTE would be concentrated on data and that voice would come in the future so VZ probably won't see an iPhone until late 2011 or 2012 but probably a MacBook laptop. Either way, I cannot wait to have one with Friends and Family or at least until ATT offers something remotely competitive.
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Slammer

Aug 14, 2009, 5:56 PM
While it is purely speculation on my part; IMO, ATT's Network stability is in question, The iphone usage is almost ripping it apart. They want to concentrate on pushing HSPA first to help revitalize the speed and capacity before layering LTE over the top. Not a bad move but it will set them back. I am almost willing to bet that TMO may jump to LTE before ATT. Just a guess.
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AshDizzle

Aug 14, 2009, 7:29 PM
HSPA's upgrade path goes far beyond EV-DO's - there is not reason to upgrade to a new network yet. It is an unfortunate marketing ploy that will play on consumer's limited knowledge of networking... thinking that "4G" is much better than "3G" when in fact Verizon's real world LTE speeds could still match AT&T's HSPA speeds.

Granted, LTE's upgrade path goes far beyond HSPA, AT&T will upgrade when the time comes.
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homestar

Aug 14, 2009, 8:51 PM
thank you for posting a smart response. ๐Ÿ˜
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ygbhen

Aug 16, 2009, 10:24 AM
You are so correct. HSPA will make for a resonable transition to LTE. There is no need to broadcast something every few weeks when they are moving in sync with there deployment plans.
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Menno

Aug 16, 2009, 6:36 PM
And how many areas have HSPDA compared to EVDO?

Yes, HSPDA is much faster, but their "fastest network" claims are only for a few select areas. While speed is important, so is coverage.
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ATnT Nokia

Aug 15, 2009, 9:56 AM
ecycled said:
anyone else find it wierd that att at its worst point in service history is strangly quiet about upgrading the network to 4G. There has to be a reason.

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AT&T hasn't even got their 3G working right yet, so why should they even think about 4g? Even their 2G still needs improvement!
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Jayshmay

Aug 15, 2009, 10:08 PM
What the heck kinda comment is even they're 2G needs improvement? Are you saying EDGE doesn't work? WoW! Yikes! You don't seem to be in reality! EDGE works just fine.
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