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Missing the real reason

Kagehiru

Aug 7, 2009, 10:05 AM
I think most people are missing the real reason the prisons, both private and government owned, are wanting to block cellphone signals. Revenue. The use of a cellphone in prison circumvents the prison's own very profitable telephone system. Inmates and their families are charged exorbant rates to talk to each other. It's not that officials are angry about dirty deeds being discussed over the cellphone, it's that they can't charge for it when they are.
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rarodrig26

Aug 7, 2009, 1:41 PM
Conspiracy theorist much?? Actually calls from prison/jail phones are collect calls anyway, so the person being called pays.
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Kagehiru

Aug 7, 2009, 1:44 PM
No conspiracy behind it at all. It's an excellent revenue stream that provides the prison system with capital that has no competition. It doesn't matter who pays the bill, it matters that the system gets the money.
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mackygirl

Aug 7, 2009, 4:38 PM
They have their own billing service for this, called Correctional Billing Services. I'm sure they profit heavily from those collect calls.
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mrpmpfan

Aug 7, 2009, 7:09 PM
Somehow I don't care, since when should we care if a prisioner has to pay a higher price to make calls. Its a system of punishment not time out.
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Disrespect

Aug 8, 2009, 9:56 AM
It is but you have to be rational. Not everyone in there is a criminal. there are some that are indeed innocent and just haven't been proven yet. So in their defense how do you give them unbearable living conditions? damn you are so cruel. Its called humanity. Yes most are criminals but the idea is to correct more so then punish.
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Versed

Aug 8, 2009, 10:16 AM
Disrespect said:
It is but you have to be rational. Not everyone in there is a criminal. there are some that are indeed innocent and just haven't been proven yet. So in their defense how do you give them unbearable living conditions? damn you are so cruel. Its called humanity. Yes most are criminals but the idea is to correct more so then punish.


Oh give me a break! I can understand not wanting to overcharge people for calls, but please, not the "i'm innocent baloney".
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Gadget Junky

Aug 8, 2009, 1:09 PM
He's an aid provider to criminals and a sympathizer, due to his lifestyle and friends.
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xanadul14619

Aug 8, 2009, 1:54 PM
yeah, I have to say that people are in jail for a reason, me personally never been in jail, and theres a reason i live life with a concience and hang with people i know wont get me in trouble, if your not doing this and your mistakenly jailed it is still your fault people really need to learn to govern their own actions and stop whining that thier innocent cus actually it was thier friend that did it....am i missing something here?
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thizmobile

Aug 8, 2009, 4:13 PM
Well, we all know there are exceptions to that rule but for the most part... if you're in jail its most likely your fault. People need to be responsible for their own actions.
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Disrespect

Aug 8, 2009, 5:59 PM
True but you one dimmensional its my way or the highway a$$ people cant get it.

What about Mendella's case or how ever you spell his name? He deserved that?

open your eyes people. Nevermind yall are too high on your horse it doesn't even matter.
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bdo3272

Aug 11, 2009, 10:58 AM
Disrespect said:
True but you one dimmensional its my way or the highway a$$ people cant get it.

What about Mendella's case or how ever you spell his name? He deserved that?

open your eyes people. Nevermind yall are too high on your horse it doesn't even matter.

Nelson Mandela? The South African who was jailed in South Africa? How does this have ANYTHING to do with cellphone calls in American prisons? Seriously Im not an expert or anything but I know it had to do with apartheid in Africa, not cell phone calls in America and yes I realize he was unjustly jailed, but the justice system down there is faaar different than in the US.
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macdrizzle23rd

Aug 8, 2009, 6:38 PM
there are people that get locked up for the wrong reason. i was just in jail for 4 days because my baby momma was mad at me and chose to call the cops and say that i hit her and i didnt. after 4 days they released me because there wasnt any evidence. was that my fault? what responsibility do i need to take for my actions
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xanadul14619

Aug 9, 2009, 12:51 PM
Getting with a psycho, oh the times i wish i never met my ex, i feel you but, it was you that decided to get with her, kinda like saying you shouldnt have to deal with her crazyness because your split, welcome to having kids...a good reason why people shouldnt have kids unless their sure everyone involved is straight.
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macdrizzle23rd

Aug 9, 2009, 8:35 PM
true
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Vipermad

Aug 10, 2009, 11:11 AM
Disrespect said:
It is but you have to be rational. Not everyone in there is a criminal. there are some that are indeed innocent and just haven't been proven yet. So in their defense how do you give them unbearable living conditions? damn you are so cruel. Its called humanity. Yes most are criminals but the idea is to correct more so then punish.


I'm certain that, if proven innocent, they can then file a motion to recoup what they "lost" in the course of proving their lack of guilt. Do they charge for personal visit from family? I doubt they do....and that being said, the phone is a luxury.
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mackygirl

Aug 10, 2009, 10:12 AM
ummm....the prisoner doesn't pay, their families and friends do. It's a COLLECT call and its 95 cents a minute for the first so many minutes and then it goes down. I personally could see if the prisoners were having to pay for their calls, but their families, their wives, children etc. Its a little ridiculous frankly.
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texaswireless

Aug 8, 2009, 4:40 PM
That is not the real reason and you are absolutely ignorant to believe so.

We aren't talking about a holding cell here.
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Kagehiru

Aug 8, 2009, 6:11 PM
Very astute of you to notice. We were actually talking about the reason for jamming the cell signals in prisons. But glad you could join the conversation, the ad hominem not withstanding.

I say again, the reason behind the jamming is revenue based, nothing more. Any additional benefit is purely circumstance. Prisoners have been communicating and directing their affairs beyond their cells for hundreds of years and don't need a phone to get the job done, though it is certainly more convenient. The prison system has been operating a market with zero competition for a very long time and they want to ensure that they can continue to do so.
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Disrespect

Aug 8, 2009, 7:29 PM
You may be right. It sounds pretty logical. 😉
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texaswireless

Aug 9, 2009, 5:21 PM
And repeating your ignorant point does not make you correct.

Crime is committed by users of cell phones within prisons. If you want to lobby for a more competitve "pay phone" system within a prison then go for it but do not use this as the reason for the attempted ban.

You also aren't going to get much sympathy from elected officials. Any methods to recoup the costs of running the prisons for the taxpayers is not an area said officials are going to back away from easily. No one in prison has a "right" to lower cost telephone use.

Prisoners may have been communicating and directing their crimes, oops, affairs, for hundreds of years before cell phones but that does not excuse officials from trying to contain those crimes.
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Kagehiru

Aug 11, 2009, 10:29 AM
And answering my post with yet another ad hom does not take away from its validity. To your credit, at least you posted a defense of your situation this time, though I question how much of a defense it is.

I did not say prisoners had a right to cell phone use, nor did I say that use should be cheap. I merely pointed out that revenue, not crime, is the real reason they want to ban cell use.

You're an abrasive dude, Texas, but that's internet discussion for ya.
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texaswireless

Aug 11, 2009, 10:38 AM
Validity?

I used to live near Roswell, NM. Are their claims valid as well?
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