Verizon Agrees to Shorten Exclusivity Period to Six Months
another reason for me to hate verizon even more.
Verizon wants the iphone so badly that they are doing anything they can, even if it takes to sell their soul (in this case their exclusivity agreements) to get it.
the_eraser said:
By doing this (in a passive/aggressive way) they'll be forcing AT&T to follow, so that they don't look bad. I hope AT&T doesn't fall for this and actually extends the contract with apple for at least 5 more years.
Verizon wants the iphone so badly that they are doing anything they can, even if it takes to sell their soul (in this case their exclusivity agreements) to get it.
No 😲 Actually it's a smart move to voluntarily do something before the govt. comes in and mandates it. Who wants more rules and regulation?
You know, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you might make sense every once and awhile.
You can replace 'LG voyager' with any Verizon-exclusive phone and it'd be just as apt of a comparison. Of course none of them compare to the iPhone- nothing Verizon has does.
But the iphone is an exclusive phone. The biggest selling point of the iphone is it's OS, software developed by a company known as "APPLE" who is infamous for how quickly they will attack any other company that even hints at borrowing their code. You think Verizon's picky with their UI? That's most likely a huge reason why the iphone isn't with verizon. getting the two companies to compromise would mean one of them would have to give up control, and APPLE sure as hell wasn't going to do it.
There WON'T be a phone that competes directly with the iphone, there never will be. Just like you cannot have a phone that competes directly with a Blackberry.
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So you're telling me that Apple functions like a normal software company. What the hell is your point?
"You think Verizon's picky with their UI? That's most likely a huge reason why the iphone isn't with verizon. getting the two companies to compromise would mean one of them would have to give up control."
Ok... so is your point that Verizon should be allowed to copy Apple's UI? Oh awesome, why don't they just get some chinese company to just knockoff the entire iPhone as well!
I don't think anyone cares that Verizon is picky with their UI, moreso that Verizon's UI is to...
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I'm not saying that companies can't make phones that are just as good, or better (to certain customers) than the iphone, I am just saying, you can't compare it.
Read an essay called "In the Beginning was the command line" sometime by Neal Stephenson. Apple is successful because they sell their UI as an experience. That is why APPLE products are difficult to mimic. you can copy the form as much as you want, but in the end it comes down to the UI. This doesn't make them superior, thi...
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Apple is successful because they hire people who understand these studies! They aren't always 100% perfect, but more often than not they nail it. Palm did an exceptional job software wise with the Pre, and Google did for most parts of Android. And it's not just Apple, other phone companies such as Sony Ericsson usually did a good job paying attention to proper interface design and input methods.
But Verizon definitely ha...
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Blackberry has Path Dependence for their devices. They have expensive, specialized software programs that allow companies to use their phones for VPN communication. a signifigant redesign of the UI would cause a lot of issues, not to mention make the thousands of programs developed for the blackberries obsolete.
Apple feels it as well. This is the third generation of the Iphone that features the same UI, OSX has gone through 4-5 major revisions while still keeping essentially the same look for the same reason.
Palm was a dying fish, they needed to go for something totally new to survive. That last chance allow...
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Disclaimer: I am NOT a fanboy of any wireless company. Though the only wireless company I have ever been with is Cingular/ATT.
I am an honest consumer, not a fanboy. I just had to say that since I'm making a positive comment about Verizon.
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Honestly, I don't know why people bash the ENV line as much as they do. People fall in love with that phone in my store (disclaimer, I do work for them, but I'll never say that they are the best carrier for everyone)
The reason Bluecoyote doesn't like the phone is because they are a fanboy of the APPLE verizon. If the phone doesn't have a lowercase "i" infront of it, it is inferior to them.. I have no idea why this is the case, but different strokes I suppose.
Anyway I thought that comment was pretty damn funny comparing being a Verizon fanboy to a religion! ! !
I swear if they ever made a phone that looked like one of those communicators I'd buy one.
I liked the Voyager. I have the EnV2 myself because I drop my phone... a lot. so a touch screen would be bad for me. I'm most likely getting the tour in a few months because I need a smartphone soon and sadly I don't think we'll get a Android phone by that time. The HTC Hero.. that looks like a slick piece of art.
Really the only feature I'd like that my phone doesn't have is a physical keyboard. I have the Nokia N95-3, recently I've been eyeing the E75. But recently I've been busy hustling down debt. I need to move on with my life and leave my 20's behind me and be debt free, heck yeah!!!
CT is a nice area. Only was there briefly, but I enjoyed it. As much as it frustrates me, I'll always consider PA my home. Kinda like that annoying uncle that randomly curses at the paper boy. Annoys the crap out of you sometimes, but it's something you wouldn't want to trade.
Hershey is a nice area, but the stores we have there are already well established.
Menno said:
I swear if they ever made a phone that looked like one of those communicators I'd buy one.
Motorola Krave? Looks just like the old school communicator, clear flip and all. Just put it on speaker, and blammo: instant Star Trek!
Is that some defensive mechanism you use to defend crap products?
Let me break down the LG Voyager here...
Physically speaking of the hardware, we're not talking about a bad device. What is bad is the fact that for what was essentially a phone priced at the same price as an iPhone or even Blackberry curve you've got something with a pathetic application framework. Unlike even most "dumb phones," you have a phone incapable of installing any sort of useful application, and the application...
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Most of the applications you are complaining about not being able to get arn't programmed for BREW. Verizon recently announced that they would start transitioning to Java, which should open up their platform to companies like google.
Considering they announced that they were working on a cross platform appstore, I'd expect that this is where they are heading. I'd expect to see Java enabled phones before you even see widespread 4g phones.
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And who chose this crappy platform? Exactly.
"Your issues are with the Verizon UI, not the phone.. or rather the LG UI since they were the company that really developed it for Verizon."
Exactly they are, though LG's UI is terrible in its own right.
"The iphone and blackberry require a $30 a month data plan, the voyager did not. If the voyager did require a data plan, it would only be $15 a month. Not everyone who wants a touch screen needs some huge app store, or a smartphone."
To get equal functionality you need to pay $10.00/mo for VZ Navigator, $10.00/mo for VCast Video (which is equivalent to the free...
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why blow 200? the same reason people blew 600 on the iphone (plus $30 a month) when it was first released. yes, it can do a lot of cool stuff, but a lot of people bought it simply because they wanted a touch screen, and it looked cool. Never underestimate how much someone will spend on their toys.
BTW, I work for VZW, and hate most of the company. Most certainly no fanboyism here. I've had, and sold them all. They all suck in some areas, and rock in others. To be honest, TMO is the most user friendly of the top 5, with Sprint a close second (can't believe I said that, but they do a ton for their smart phone customers).
Iphones, andriods, and pres are for kids, silly ppl who have nothing better with their time than play silly applications like shake the baby and rolling a ball into a hole. Oh and dont forget the compass/magnet. IT's a gimmick. Sadly its a trend that is spreading.
Apple for now will not go to anyone other than ATT for their phones because ATT is not in a position to negotiate. ATT needed a flagship phone to boost them into competition they were desperate. Tmobile had its own thing going with HTC (and still does) Verizon was too restrictive and Sprint was well sinking. If the iphone does ...
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I somewhat agree with you, I do think in a few years, iphones will be like ipods, a commodity item for sale.
By voluntarily changing the way agreements are made, they are making it that much harder for the government to mandate changes.
This isn't about them wanting the iphone. This is about them telling the government to shut up and spend some more time actually doing their jobs instead of trying to micromanage things outside their field. You'll notice that this deal is only for small regional carriers, so even if ATT follows point for point, their precious iphone is safe from the "big bad red." Which is a great thing for them, because they would go into the negative real fast without that phone.
the_eraser said:
By doing this (in a passive/aggressive way) they'll be forcing AT&T to follow, so that they don't look bad. I hope AT&T doesn't fall for this and actually extends the contract with apple for at least 5 more years.
Verizon wants the iphone so badly that they are doing anything they can, even if it takes to sell their soul (in this case their exclusivity agreements) to get it.
YOU HAVE MUST BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!! Apple first came to Verizon to sell the IPhone. There was many things that played into Verizon not accepting the device, but one of the key components was that Verizon wanted to TEST the phone. Apple said take it the way it is, Verizon passed on it. Take a look at the hist...
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glinc said:
iPhone or not, I hope it doesnt come to verizon. The tour is much better than that piece of crap that can't multitask lol having to close every single application to be able to run another thing.
If VZW, was offered the iPhone right now, they would take it, the same holds for Sprint and TMO. It has nothing to do what you think about the iPhone, if you like or not. And yes I know Apple came to them first. But that was then and this is now.
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