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Finally we can truly compare a premium phone on Sprint vs. Verizon.

erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 1:57 PM
Verizon has so far been very cleverly shuffling away premium devices over to the "red" with iron-clad exclusivity agreements. Their phones are soooo appealing 😳 , modern, well constructed and flashy that consumers are drawn 🤤 to the sexy hardware/software while ignoring the dry-hump 😈 price-gouging techniques that the slick,customer friendly, well-skilled sales teams saddle new customers with on the way out of the store. Dan Hesse may not be as appealing as the horn rimmed network guy, buut his price plans are rock solid. His service is outstanding, and he finally can directly compete with VZW with a sizzling BlackBerry release. Let's see $99/month orrrrr $149/month...I wonder which plan will fit better into my recession proo...
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Menno

Jun 16, 2009, 3:00 PM
This is wholly depending on where you live.

If you live in an area where sprint and Verizon have THE SAME coverage, and you will never use the phone outside of that zone, sprint's is cheaper. If you are in an area where one works better than the other by a significant amount, you go with the one that works better.

Having a 99.99 unlimited plan is great, if you get reception. Not everyone who gets Verizon 3g can get sprint voice (let alone data). So the price difference is only something to consider if everything else is equal. I will gladly pay $49 a month if it means the service works, because why pay 100 in the first place for one that doesn't?
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 4:36 PM
Menno said:
This is wholly depending on where you live.

If you live in an area where sprint and Verizon have THE SAME coverage, and you will never use the phone outside of that zone, sprint's is cheaper. If you are in an area where one works better than the other by a significant amount, you go with the one that works better.

Having a 99.99 unlimited plan is great, if you get reception. Not everyone who gets Verizon 3g can get sprint voice (let alone data). So the price difference is only something to consider if everything else is equal. I will gladly pay $49 a month if it means the service works, because why pay 100 in the first place for one that doesn't?

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HawkeyeOC

Jun 16, 2009, 4:58 PM
jrfdsf said:


Sprint's service would still be cheaper even if you didn't live in area with the same coverage. Sprint did away with roaming charges years ago. Where have you been?


Go back and reread the question. You missed the entire point. there was no mention of roaming charges. 😲
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 5:11 PM
HawkeyeOC said:


Go back and reread the question. You missed the entire point. there was no mention of roaming charges. 😲

So how would it be more expensive then?
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algorithmplus

Jun 16, 2009, 5:22 PM
jrfdsf said:


So how would it be more expensive then?


If you live in a Verizon dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Verizon plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. Sprint may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Verizon plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

If you live in a Sprint dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Sprint plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. AT&T may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Sprint plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

I could p
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 5:26 PM
algorithmplus said:


If you live in a Verizon dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Verizon plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. Sprint may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Verizon plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

If you live in a Sprint dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Sprint plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. AT&T may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Sprint plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

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algorithmplus

Jun 16, 2009, 6:28 PM
jrfdsf said:
If I lived in a dead zone, I would purchase an Airave and still save money.


What if you didn't have high speed internet available? Would you purchase a satellite internet connection just to use Sprint's Airave even though they don't have local towers and Sprint would disconnect you for excessive roaming if you used it outside of your home?
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 6:38 PM
algorithmplus said:


What if you didn't have high speed internet available? Would you purchase a satellite internet connection just to use Sprint's Airave even though they don't have local towers and Sprint would disconnect you for excessive roaming if you used it outside of your home?

If I didn't have high speed internet available, I would purchase a satellite so that I could have broadband service for my computer, not just so I could have an Airave.

It would depend on whether or not I had decent coverage outside my home as to whether or not I would get Sprint.
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algorithmplus

Jun 16, 2009, 6:48 PM
If you didn't use the internet much except for e-mail, would you still get satellite internet for faster connection even if you didn't need it?

I'm just saying that you can't assume every single consumers is the same as you. Other people have different wants and different needs. Other people can also use other carriers. Sprint is not a "one company fits all consumers" organization. Unless I missed the newsflash that all mobile phone users switched to Sprint and it's the only mobile company still in business.
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:18 AM
algorithmplus said:
If you didn't use the internet much except for e-mail, would you still get satellite internet for faster connection even if you didn't need it?

I'm just saying that you can't assume every single consumers is the same as you. Other people have different wants and different needs. Other people can also use other carriers. Sprint is not a "one company fits all consumers" organization. Unless I missed the newsflash that all mobile phone users switched to Sprint and it's the only mobile company still in business.



But its still the best bang for your buck, regardless of your situation. Why pay more when you can pay less...that simple.
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crazyeaglefan236

Jun 18, 2009, 12:26 AM
What's that noise? I can't hear you...that noise of millions of Sprint customers leaving daily is deafening. Oh, and how about Sprint making the top 10 list for customer service by MSN Money! Congrats man! Oh wait, that was top ten for worst customer service companies in America. Oh yeah, they finished third (kinda like their spot with net customers...and just think, if they improve in the worst list up to forth they will match where they are in customer base in a few years after T-Mobile passes them). Only thing even more amusing is the fact most the other companies in worse list were banks or cable companies! LOL

Hey...enjoy your cheap rates.
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mreeves84

Jun 18, 2009, 10:02 AM
look what he did there,he made up stats to slam a company...cute little fan boys! 😈
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:15 AM
algorithmplus said:


If you live in a Verizon dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Verizon plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. Sprint may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Verizon plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

If you live in a Sprint dead zone and you primarily would use your phone at home, since you live in a dead zone, a Sprint plan would not be good, as it does not work at your home. AT&T may have great coverage at your home. Therefore, a Sprint plan with no coverage at your home would be a complete waste of money.

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Radbard

Jun 18, 2009, 10:18 AM
I live in Wyoming and I can assure you that Sprint does not work here, even though we have alltel and VZW. One of my roomates has a sprint paperweight to prove it. BTW I'm not bashing sprint if they had coverage here I would give them a shot.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 16, 2009, 5:46 PM
jrfdsf said:


So how would it be more expensive then?


Reread. no clue where you are coming from. Your not making sense.

"This is wholly depending on where you live.

If you live in an area where sprint and Verizon have THE SAME coverage, and you will never use the phone outside of that zone, sprint's is cheaper. If you are in an area where one works better than the other by a significant amount, you go with the one that works better.

Having a 99.99 unlimited plan is great, if you get reception. Not everyone who gets Verizon 3g can get sprint voice (let alone data). So the price difference is only something to consider if everything else is equal. I will gladly pay $49 a month if it means t
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 6:19 PM
HawkeyeOC said:


Reread. no clue where you are coming from. Your not making sense.

"This is wholly depending on where you live.

If you live in an area where sprint and Verizon have THE SAME coverage, and you will never use the phone outside of that zone, sprint's is cheaper. If you are in an area where one works better than the other by a significant amount, you go with the one that works better.

Having a 99.99 unlimited plan is great, if you get reception. Not everyone who gets Verizon 3g can get sprint voice (let alone data). So the price difference is only something to consider if everything else is equal. I will gladly pay $49 a month if it means the service works, because why pay 100 in the first p
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Menno

Jun 16, 2009, 6:27 PM
saving 49 bucks a month is only a value if the service works where you need it. If you need to rely on some other service to compensate for the money you save with the deadzones (a second cellphone, a landline, the frustration of noth having a phone, whatever) the value is not that great.

I am not bashing sprints service or price point. I am saying that sprint fans posting on here saying "we are cheaper, so we are better" makes about as much sense as verizon fans saying "it's the network" when the customer is fully covered with sprints network.

my original post was a typo, it should say "sprint is a better value." Seriously, it's the interwebs.. basing a retort on a single word is setting yourself up for the obligatory "THAT'S NOT ...
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Menno

Jun 16, 2009, 6:21 PM
What I mean is if you are in an area where your sprint phone DOESN'T WORK, then it doesn't matter how much you are saving on your (now) paperweight. Just like having "friends and family" with verizon doesn't mean squat if your phone doesnt work where you need it to.

Customers should look at coverage first (that the phone works where they need it, when they need it) and then worry about pricing. Because saving $49 dollars a month on a phone that doesn't work is a waste of 100, just as (I would assume sprint people would say) spending 149 for a service where sprint offers everything verizon does is a waste of 49..

I'm NOT bashing sprint. I'm just saying that price point only matters if you compare equal services (in this case coverage)...
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 6:31 PM
Menno said:
What I mean is if you are in an area where your sprint phone DOESN'T WORK, then it doesn't matter how much you are saving on your (now) paperweight. Just like having "friends and family" with verizon doesn't mean squat if your phone doesnt work where you need it to.

Customers should look at coverage first (that the phone works where they need it, when they need it) and then worry about pricing. Because saving $49 dollars a month on a phone that doesn't work is a waste of 100, just as (I would assume sprint people would say) spending 149 for a service where sprint offers everything verizon does is a waste of 49..

I'm NOT bashing sprint. I'm just saying that price point only matters if you compare equal
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algorithmplus

Jun 16, 2009, 6:35 PM
Apparently it's a tough concept for some people to get. It's not a one phone, one plan, one price, one network suits everybody world, which is why different companies fill coverage holes in different areas, offer/design/manufacture/sell different phones, and have different plans at different prices.
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mycool

Jun 16, 2009, 10:43 PM
Don't forget that to some people having good customer service is key too. I can not stand calling the customer service of a company only to be connected to someone in India who doesn't give a sh*t about truly resolving any issues I run into.
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:19 AM
Menno said:
What I mean is if you are in an area where your sprint phone DOESN'T WORK, then it doesn't matter how much you are saving on your (now) paperweight. Just like having "friends and family" with verizon doesn't mean squat if your phone doesnt work where you need it to.

Customers should look at coverage first (that the phone works where they need it, when they need it) and then worry about pricing. Because saving $49 dollars a month on a phone that doesn't work is a waste of 100, just as (I would assume sprint people would say) spending 149 for a service where sprint offers everything verizon does is a waste of 49..

I'm NOT bashing sprint. I'm just saying that price point only matters if you compare equal
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Menno

Jun 17, 2009, 3:06 PM
gah... freaking trolls read the post.

I am saying that the everything plan is a great value if you have coverage. if you don't have coverage, it's not a good value. This is why att and verizon can charge more.

I am NOT trying to bash sprint. I am saying that price point is not the only thing you look at when you are looking at a cellphone
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Overmann

Jun 17, 2009, 3:58 PM
Yea, if price point was the only important thing, I would go buy a Curve from metroPCS and blow you all away with half that everything unlimited pricing! 😛
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MizzSprint

Jun 17, 2009, 11:02 PM
Let not forget that you do get what you pay for. Here in NJ Metro works but not in certain towns hmm, I'd rather pay that extra 50 for nationwide service. I guarantee once Metro becomes nationwide in order to pay for the pole rentals they're going to have to raise their prices. The nationwide carriers aren't threatened now because the metro service isn't up to par yet.
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swatch

Jun 17, 2009, 12:51 PM
Sprint may not charge for roaming but they WILL cancel your agreement if you roam too much. In this area, we get NUMEROUS Sprint clients that bring in their letter of termination with the stated reason of excessive roaming.........makes no sense, but remeber you always get what you pay for
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MizzSprint

Jun 17, 2009, 11:12 PM
Verizon did the same thing with their air card service. At least they're terminating u for free and not charging u. Why complain about that shoot just move on to another carrier. People need to read what they're getting themselves into at the point of sale. The problem with people are they're so in a rush to do nothing.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 16, 2009, 4:07 PM
erikclarke said:
Verizon has so far been very cleverly shuffling away premium devices over to the "red" with iron-clad exclusivity agreements. Their phones are soooo appealing 😳 , modern, well constructed and flashy that consumers are drawn 🤤 to the sexy hardware/software while ignoring the dry-hump 😈 price-gouging techniques that the slick,customer friendly, well-skilled sales teams saddle new customers with on the way out of the store. Dan Hesse may not be as appealing as the horn rimmed network guy, buut his price plans are rock solid. His service is outstanding, and he finally can directly compete with VZW with a sizzling BlackBerry release. Let's see $99/month orrrrr $149/month...I wonder which plan w
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 4:38 PM
HawkeyeOC said:


Someone drank a LITTLE too much coffee this morning didn't they? 🤣 Maybe it was Kool-aid? 🤣

By any chance, do you write horror movie scripts for a living in your "recession proof" job? 🤣


Guilty!

He stole some of yours when you weren't looking.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 16, 2009, 5:01 PM
jrfdsf said:



Guilty!

He stole some of yours when you weren't looking.


wow! I didn't even know I even took a side? Lots of silly little children sticking their tongues out going "my network is better than your network...na na"

Carry on children 😳
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 5:22 PM
HawkeyeOC said:

...Lots of silly little children sticking their tongues out going "my network is better than your network...na na"

True.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QS519Ztmo »
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WiWavelength

Jun 16, 2009, 5:44 PM
Verizon Wireless. America's Most Reliable Wireless Network. Because We Say So.

AJ
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tbabynyc

Jun 16, 2009, 6:16 PM
How dare they even try to compare Verizon to Sprint. LOL!!! x 10!

Can't you even tell who the best wireless network is by just looking at their quarterly reviews? DUH!! Verizon all the way baby!

And another thing, they are having the BB Tour to be released on Sprint as a favor. 😈

Maybe to see if they can "possibly" even beat Verizon in sales for this phone. I bet, those who try out the Tour in Sprint, will run to Verizon.

Mark my words.

Okay I'm done now.

🤣 🤣 🤣
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WiWavelength

Jun 16, 2009, 6:24 PM
tbabynyc said:
Okay I'm done now.


Really? No! Please come back. We need more of your astute, cutting analysis.

AJ
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algorithmplus

Jun 16, 2009, 6:31 PM
LMAO
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tbabynyc

Jun 16, 2009, 10:14 PM
No I am done. Everybody has Verizon. My family, friends, work, etc. You can't really underestimate their service. I know it is expensive, but its better than anything else out there. I had Verizon for over 8 years. Never went back. Had Sprint,and AT&T. Verizon works better, hands down. In my home, that is the only cell provider that actually works. This is all based on my experience and or opinion.

So that is what I see coming for the Tour. It will have more business with Verizon than with Sprint. Especially, since Rim decided to release that POS phone, Storm.

Anything to replace that dump. 😛

Nite!
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:30 AM
tbabynyc said:
No I am done. Everybody has Verizon. My family, friends, work, etc. You can't really underestimate their service. I know it is expensive, but its better than anything else out there. I had Verizon for over 8 years. Never went back. Had Sprint,and AT&T. Verizon works better, hands down. In my home, that is the only cell provider that actually works. This is all based on my experience and or opinion.

So that is what I see coming for the Tour. It will have more business with Verizon than with Sprint. Especially, since Rim decided to release that POS phone, Storm.

Anything to replace that dump. 😛

Nite!



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crammy1

Jun 17, 2009, 9:04 AM
i thought u were pro-verizon..but then u acknowledge that their choice in phone(ie;storm) is a "POS."
tell me...how can the most reliable phone service provider provide a "POS" phone?
time and time again, people like you are told that not because u have that experience its the same with everybody else.as u have said its your experience and or opinion, not everybody's, but..

just YOURS!! ...

o and yeah, nite...dont wake up !! 😛
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BLubak1

Jun 16, 2009, 4:20 PM
You actually think Verizon has a more attractive handset lineup than Sprint? I have Verizon because the network is (generally) better than Sprint where I am, but I hate Verizon's handset selection, especially given the fact that all of their non-smartphones have the same exact interface! It's like having a choice between a Ford Fusion, Toyota Camry, BMW X5, and Nissan Titan, all at different prices, yet when you hop in for the test drive, they all look, feel, work, and handle exactly alike. What's the point of having a choice if it's really not a choice at all?
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erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 5:22 PM
Actually, I am aware of the big red visual interface that VZW places on its devices. However, when honestly comparing the handsets offered by both companies, I find that there is a VZW answer for each desirable handset/PDA sold by Sprint (with the current sole exception being the Palm Pre - temporarily.) Conversely, Sprint has no directly competitive answer to several highly rated VZW devices, like the LG Versa, LG enV Touch, LG enV 3 and the Samsung Alias 2. It is devices like these that customers praise (check the PS ratings,) desire and tout to their friends and family members that creates a separation in the market, where Sprint cannot compete directly with VZW. Signal strength of course varies depending on where in the country the indiv...
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MizzSprint

Jun 16, 2009, 7:52 PM
I think what people fail to realize is LG, Samsung, RIM, all give each carrier a choice of the phones. They line up the prototypes and whoever is in charge of saying we want this and that phone at Sprint obviously doesn't do a great job. Str8 from the LG rep mouth Verizon picks up every phone they made. Sprint was counting on their beans with this Palm Pre. You say Sprint cannot compete with Verizon as if they never had the opportunity to get these phones. I honestly think whoever pick Sprints phones are a few older people that picked up the rumor just to shut the tweens up about a messaging phone.

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erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 11:07 PM
Actually I wrote "Sprint has no directly competitive answer to several highly rated VZW devices."
I never wrote that Sprint was incapable of competing. I only mentioned that they were not offering equivalent devices to several of the staple VZW phones. I should have even added the LG Dare to the original listing. From your statement I take it that there is a manager at Sprint that is repeatedly failing to select develop and promote the very devices that give VZW the edge. Furthermore, notice how Sprint regressed in functionality by offering the Instinct S30 (lacking Rev. A data, with the same screen resolution, camera and basic OS) while VZW progressed with the awesome enV Touch (from the Voyager line, where each successive device has been...
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:42 AM
sprint phones are better, plus their phones arent crippled like verizons are. lgs suck that simple..lgs make beginner pdas, theres not much you can do on them..no multitasking, or anything you can do with a winmo or even a bb. Sprint makes great business phones. HTC, Samsung, Palm,blackberrys, motorolas make great phones. The MiFi Card(which is really cool). 4G network(wimax). Everyone has voice, its the internet that we love to use. Mine is super fast with sprint..also sprint has the most dependable 3g network. Their wireless aircards are cool. I got the Compass 597 which is the smallest connection card on the market.Nothing to install. Bought it got was online in a matter of minutes. It hooks to my laptop or pc via usb, gives me broadband ...
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crammy1

Jun 17, 2009, 9:25 AM
you realize nobody replies to your messages anymore ^^
you sound like a sales rep...hihi

sorry i just have to say it, were on the same boat and i dont like people to hate you for being a fanboy...
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 9:39 AM
u do realize i just placed these replies minutes ago?

fyi i am a sprint sales rep...

thanks for your reply tho!
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crammy1

Jun 17, 2009, 12:45 PM
u do realize i checked your other replies tho..and i noticed that u are...i am also one ^^
but dont make it too obvious 🙂
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crammy1

Jun 17, 2009, 9:22 AM
i read it somewhere(i cant site anything because im at the office at access is limited) here also in phonescoop that the rev A and 0 difference is upload speeds, so i think its not really a problem plus the s30 has a better hardware, as evidenced with the reviews data experience in the s30 is significantly improved compared to the original.
so i would still count it as an improvemed phone.
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erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 5:43 PM
PS: The Verizon release of the BlackBerry Storm last year was virtually inexcusable. I personally don't consider that device to be a VZW asset. Its overall performance is truly un-BlackBerry-like.
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sprintisbetter

Jun 17, 2009, 8:43 AM
palm pre is the phone to get right now...its sooo cool..and its sooo worth it to get one.
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jrfdsf

Jun 16, 2009, 5:36 PM
erikclarke said:
Verizon has so far been very cleverly shuffling away premium devices over to the "red" with iron-clad exclusivity agreements. Their phones are soooo appealing 😳 , modern, well constructed and flashy that consumers are drawn 🤤 to the sexy hardware/software while ignoring the dry-hump 😈 price-gouging techniques that the slick,customer friendly, well-skilled sales teams saddle new customers with on the way out of the store. Dan Hesse may not be as appealing as the horn rimmed network guy, buut his price plans are rock solid. His service is outstanding, and he finally can directly compete with VZW with a sizzling BlackBerry release. Let's see $99/month orrrrr $149/month...I wonder which plan w
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 16, 2009, 5:42 PM
jrfdsf said:
Hypothetically if your budget allowed, you could have Verizon/Sprint service AND AT&T on the same phone. Although CDMA usually has the better coverage, sometimes the opposite is true.


This isn't hypothetical. The Tour's insides are basically the Storms. Unlocking the phone will let you got to AT&T or T-Mobile easily. The catch is you lose 3G in the US on the other networks because it doesn't have those frequencies. It's already been done with the Storm
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mycool

Jun 16, 2009, 10:34 PM
Well, I'm willing to start a company and give you a $50/month price plan to beat out Sprint's price plan. I mean we are just comparing price plans, not coverage or service, right?
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erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 11:17 PM
As I stated in an earlier message. Sprint provides the best service for my area. Service is location dependent. Pricing is universal. The opportunity for fair comparison can only be made in areas of equivalent coverage with equivalent equipment. Most metropolitan areas will suffice. Besides, VZW and Sprint devices can freely roam into each other's territory with correct roaming settings enabled. However, the availability of 3G dependent options will be curtailed when roaming. Because Sprint's 3G footprint is so consistent, and the options are not offered at any extra cost to most users, we tend to take advantage of all options, from Sprint TV to TeleNav GPS, from unlimited SMS to BlackBerry email. If we had the glorious LG hardware, we would...
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erikclarke

Jun 16, 2009, 11:32 PM
Thank you very much to everyone that participated in this impromptu discussion. I originally wrote my statement to encourage discussion and do realize that selection of a mobile phone service provider is a highly personal matter, heavily based on past experiences. Of course it is ultimately the decision of the bread winner with the cash to spend on whatever device and services suit his/her needs. The responses I have read were poised, sometimes passionate and very informative. Obviously, fans of the BlackBerry Tour are more distinguished than the average set of sophomoric web chatters that quickly descend into a flaming pit of waste without substance. Peace to my fellow CDMA connectors.
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evrodude

Jun 17, 2009, 9:12 AM
I'm sorry I don't have the time to read every single argument in this thread, but if I was getting this new Blackberry device, I would keep my current voice plan at $39.99 a month and get a consumer Blackberry e-mail and Internet service plan at $29.99 and keep my text messaging package at $10 a month. This includes unlimited mobile-to-mobile calls and unlimited mobile-to-mobile messaging and some amount of night and weekend minutes which to me is not relevant since I don't talk that much any way. Then add the taxes and fees and we come out with (rounding off the amounts) $40 + $30 + $10 + around $7 for taxes and fees = around $87. Not to hate on Sprint, but Verizon's $87 after taxes and fees is good $13 less than Sprint's $99.99 before taxe...
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crammy1

Jun 17, 2009, 9:34 AM
the simply everything plan is not the ONLY plan weve got..
all those features that you mentioned plus unlimited text(u mentioned txt is mobile2mobile) and nyts at 7pm with 450 anytime minutes plus sprintTV and navigation already included, ow and nascar and nfl mobile(if ur a fan) all of these plus all that u mention for only 69.99+tax(ow and roaming longdistance is unlimited too,em not sure if verizon offers that)

more value* at the same price..i dont know u decide...

*im not saying you need all of those but having them there when u need them is definitely a plus.
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sofa_king_good21

Jun 18, 2009, 7:31 AM
For real I have the 450 min plan for 69.99 that comes with unlimited messaging to anyone and data AND my nights automatically start at 7. Sprint KILLS Verizons plans.
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phonephetish

Jun 17, 2009, 11:42 PM
Wow this phone looks nice. I just switched over from BB Curve w/Verizon to the Pre w/Sprint. So far I've had good reception and cust service. I used to pay $85 w/taxes on Vzw for 450 minutes, 500 text/unlimited IN text and BB data. 450 minutes was enuf for me cuz most of my family & friends were on Vzw so calls were free. But now I have 2 lines on Sprint sharing 1500 minutes and unltd everything else including TV & navi, can't beat that. I am going to check out the Tour when it comes out. I like the Pre but I still miss my Blackberry. I heard that where Sprint doesn't get coverage, they roam on Verizon's network anyway? Is this true, meaning that Sprint gets the same coverage as Verizon?
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andy2373

Jun 18, 2009, 12:50 PM

I heard that where Sprint doesn't get coverage, they roam on Verizon's network anyway? Is this true, meaning that Sprint gets the same coverage as Verizon?

Yes that's true. But there seems to be trouble between hand off's. meaning while switching from Sprint's network to roaming you'll drop your call if on the phone. Or it might be the other way around. 😕
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