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nothing better to do?

murmermer

Jun 15, 2009, 4:42 PM
the economy is collapsing, our president doesn't know what the job of a supreme court justice... and all we are worried about is if a senitor can get an iPhone/Pre/Env Touch/MyPhone on another network?

so much for "Change"...
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 4:49 PM
Yes.. having the Iphone on all carriers by brute force is the best way to spend their time on the floor... 🙄

Let's.. I don't know, work on reducing our budget and stimulating local businesses (rather than simply low paying mass market stores) Finding a way to stop bleeding money so they don't need to tax us 5 times for everything.

No, let's solve the hard issues... like why my kid can't get the iphone with verizon.
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irockash

Jun 15, 2009, 5:36 PM
Cause, you know the government can only handle one thing at a time.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 15, 2009, 5:56 PM
irockash said:
Cause, you know the government can only FOUL UP one thing at a time.


Corrected it for ya 🤣
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texaswireless

Jun 15, 2009, 6:01 PM
They are perfectly capable of fouling up more than one thing at a time.
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LEGOMAN

Jun 15, 2009, 6:05 PM
xmfd because you guys are in the government doing a good job right? i mean you guys are all talking about it like you could do better xfd
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 6:53 PM
I could... I wouldn't try fixing things I don't have the right to "fix."

It's not that hard to do a better job by doing less.
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texaswireless

Jun 15, 2009, 10:16 PM
Let's see.

I vote and I contribute in a positive way to my community through charitable functions, etc.

So.... yeah I can crticize all I want. At some point I would enjoy serving my community or state with some elected office. I know I would do a better job but as others have said, it won't be too hard to do better.
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captainplooky

Jun 16, 2009, 7:41 AM
texaswireless said:
I know I would do a better job but as others have said, it won't be too hard to do better.


🤣

Especially for Texas.

It's like Florida and Texas are in competition to see which state can be the biggest laughingstock of the country.
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texaswireless

Jun 16, 2009, 10:35 AM
Yea Texas is just terrible. Low job losses, property values somewhat stable, just horrible. Nanny states like my home of California are doing so much better. I mean being on the verge of bankruptcy, leading the nation in property value losses and job losses is much preferred right?
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captainplooky

Jun 16, 2009, 11:13 AM
Sounds nice if you can deal with the rampant pollution, backwoods racists towns (Paris for example out of many), the massive high school drop out rate (still leading the country in failures?), and my favorite - the desire to not even be part of the United States.

Of course... you have to have a job in order to lose it.
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texaswireless

Jun 16, 2009, 4:59 PM
And if I lived in CA you would find fault there. You really need to get a life.
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captainplooky

Jun 16, 2009, 7:42 PM
Actually... probably not.

Texas is a "special" state to me, which I loathe for numerous reasons.

It's the only state I know of whose Supreme court once actually ruled (and now set as precedent) that, "The [Texas] Constitution does not say that the lawyer has to be awake" in an appeal to a death row conviction.

Keep it classy Texas.
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texaswireless

Jun 16, 2009, 8:39 PM
You need to get a life. You posted almost 30 times today after not posting since May 6th. Addictions are not good. Obsessing over web postings are not good.

Don't have an aneurysm
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captainplooky

Jun 16, 2009, 11:04 PM
I would have thought by now that you would have learned that simply repeating yourself in a vain attempt to belittle me would have no effect.

Fortunately, I do not base my self esteem off the interwebs, or what people (especially people like you) think.

Though, I must admit, it is humorous to see that you still employ paradoxical arguments that reek of hypocrisy.

Perhaps you should examine your own posting history and take some of your own advice 🤣
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ecycled

Jun 17, 2009, 6:00 PM
this back and forth definately falls under the subject heading.....'nothing better to do'
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WiWavelength

Jun 16, 2009, 9:12 PM
captainplooky said:


🤣

Especially for Texas.

It's like Florida and Texas are in competition to see which state can be the biggest laughingstock of the country.


You have a definite point. Electing Jeb or George W. speaks volumes on the (low) collective IQ of the populace of a state.

AJ
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jskrenes

Jun 16, 2009, 10:02 AM
LEGOMAN said:
xmfd because you guys are in the government doing a good job right? i mean you guys are all talking about it like you could do better xfd


It's not a matter of doing it better, it's a matter of doing it LESS.
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 5:58 PM
They choose this because it will bolster votes, and allow them to not focus on other things that would be unpopular.
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HokiesACC

Jun 16, 2009, 10:01 PM
Yet another example of how government is pushing the door of the private sector farther and farther open. I really hope this doesn't get passed. It completely undermines the entire concept of capitalism. The ability of the carriers to have exclusive rights to certain models creates that atmosphere of competition and drives these companies into making better decisions on what devices they're going to need to not only keep their existing customers but to gain new ones. Not only that, but if this passed, they (the manufacturers) would be forced by law, to make devices for other networks, which may not even be a profitable thing for them to do, exclusivity aside. So now we've got the government forcing them to throw good money after bad, because...
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WiWavelength

Jun 16, 2009, 10:38 PM
HokiesACC said:
Yet another example of how government is pushing the door of the private sector farther and farther open. I really hope this doesn't get passed. It completely undermines the entire concept of capitalism.

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My God. who in the hell votes these moron politicians into office??


When capitalism involves the necessary use of public property (e.g. spectrum), stringent government regulation plays a crucial role.

If you really believe that VZW & AT&T are the progeny of noble capitalism (as opposed to unfairly privileged monopolism or oligopolism), then you, yourself, are a moron.

AJ
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akito

Jun 17, 2009, 8:08 PM
Do you really hate what america was built on? Are you a communiste? I'm sorry i mean "liberal"? Are you sitting at home collecting wellfair becuase you can't earn a livable wage on your own? I used to work for the "death star" but no matter who you work for you need to remember that your job is to make the company money. If the government getts in deeper of private companies then when does it end and they start telling us what cell phones to use? You have my pitty AJ for youre hatred of god and country.
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HokiesACC

Jun 17, 2009, 8:48 PM
Oh so when the government sells spectrum and VZW buys it, you mean to tell me that VZW just paid for the rights to use that network and a bunch of greedy politicians can say FU to VZW and tell them exactly what to do? Tell me where in the constitution Congress has this power to do this.

And I'm a moron for thinking that our service providers are a great example of capitalism? I'm sorry, are 4 big carriers not enough for you? Do you think we should have 30? Maybe 40? Will competition be more appropriate for you then? Do you think we need to break up Anheuser Busch too because they have 50% of the beer market? What about Apple? They have to have at least 80% of the digital music player market. We should definitely break them up. What about...
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Slammer

Jun 17, 2009, 6:32 AM
I don't see how carriers having exclusivity is good for competition.

If a carrier works on equal selection or choice, then carriers are forced to compete for better pricing and service. This is the way it should be.

As a consumer, I tire of hearing complaints from my friends of how they are paying through the nose to a carrier just because they have that certain device. While it was their choice to choose this direction, it still shows that the big two can charge whatever they want because where else can the consumer go? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to pay those monthly bills for the rest of my life for a phone.
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ecycled

Jun 17, 2009, 6:40 PM
in a perfect world it would be price and service, and now that more carriers are nationwide (it is a big nation to cover and takes time). So coverage is getting closer but still gaps, some are better in different areas.

however, without this exclusivity thing it would close some doors on manufacturer competition. I bet PALM wouldn't have had room to come out with the PRE. ok bad example because palm would still be dominating market from way back because no one could come out, and see we'd have crappy palms!

Exclusive has benefits.
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LEGOMAN

Jun 15, 2009, 4:55 PM
xmfd yeah bro i know what you mean obama does everything in the government and doesnt let anyone else propose any bills dude you're so smart xfd
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sunshinegirl

Jun 16, 2009, 11:34 AM
what does xmfd mean?
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ecycled

Jun 17, 2009, 6:57 PM
right?

xmfd = transfer my freaking deal, or maybe cross m*** F**** d**k

how about "x-mas my favorite day"
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japhy

Jun 15, 2009, 5:03 PM
Senators don't have hobby horses like this, they have constituents. Some nerds out there really wanted to have any phone they wanted on any network, so after getting nothing from the carrier, they went to Congress.

That's how things work in this county: people want something done that they can't do themselves, so they go to their gov't representatives.

Thus (to use another example) the President doesn't care about health care in spite of the will of the people, he cares about about because of the will of the people.

Obviously, enough constituents of the Senators in question (or more likely, a consumer rights group) pushed hard enough for this to get some action on it.
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 5:19 PM
aka, someone bought them a fancy dinner.
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japhy

Jun 15, 2009, 5:29 PM
That's how it's supposed to work. Granted, consumer groups have long ago taken the place of individual constituents, but still, what happened is exactly what should have happened. The people had a concern, they took it to their Senators (both democrats & republicans), the Senators responded.

Consumer groups have nothing to offer politicians but fuel for the populist fire. Astroturfing groups (ie - industry groups masquerading as consumer groups) will usually attempt to do some favors, but something like "more industry freedom" doesn't have profit as it's aim, just more consumer choice.

Have a little faith in the system: not every politician's every action is self serving or deceitful. 🙄
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 5:59 PM
Sorry, I had a little faith in the system. It's all spent by now.

Plus, "carrier exclusivity" isn't something the government should be talking about in the first place.
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japhy

Jun 15, 2009, 6:04 PM
The consumer groups involved would argue otherwise: it's not about being able to use cell phones on particular carriers so much as it's about freedom of usage.

I dunno if you know this or not, but the American people take their freedom (even trivial, useless, or even counter productive freedoms) very seriously. 😉

I personally agree that this issue is frivolous, but I wouldn't dare say that of it's philosophical underpinnings (not that I agree with them either, but still).
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 6:13 PM
They take it seriously because they are easily distracted.

I'm sorry, but I consider the fact that I have a huge chunk of my paycheck taken out every week for a system I'll never get to use (Social Security) a lot more important than getting whatever phone I want to work on whatever network I want.

Would universal compatibility be nice? Of course. But it is not the governments place to decide that, especially when they are blowing billions of dollars a year on already useless crap. Why add to it?
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sunshinegirl

Jun 16, 2009, 11:35 AM
I'm with you on this one.
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murmermer

Jun 15, 2009, 6:39 PM
I put Faith in the system... then came Obama... he wasn't even born in the USA (prove me wrong)
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Menno

Jun 15, 2009, 6:43 PM
You have no one to blaime for who's in office but you and me.

Think about it... the alternative was McCain.. someone who started out as a "maverick" and then became little more than a yesman to the party line when the GOP wasn't really all that popular.

It was like Kerry/Bush all over again. On one hand you had someone who was charismatic, but not really cut out for the job, and you matched him against someone with the personality of a dead fish. Neither was a good choice, but people were convinced they were the only choices.
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WZ_agent

Jun 16, 2009, 9:56 AM
In what way did McCain become a party line yesman? He was the least conservative candidate ever proposed. His big tent tactics lost him an election.
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NokiaGoth

Jun 15, 2009, 7:00 PM
it'll snowball if this ever does pass. first cellphones then videogames, then cars, and then who knows. a business has the right to compete, and offering somthing another business does not have is healthy competition, **** the senate, they don't know ****.


😈
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jhr2112

Jun 15, 2009, 7:33 PM
Exclusivity agreements are anti-competition.
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murmermer

Jun 16, 2009, 11:26 AM
but we can't be a good communist i mean progressive nation if we have choices in what we purchase.


especially cellphones
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WZ_agent

Jun 16, 2009, 12:40 PM
well everyone is ok with having the same cell phone and same car right?
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murmermer

Jun 16, 2009, 3:49 PM
as long as Apple picks the cellphone and Al Gore picks the car. (sarcasm)
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