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Palm Pre Kills

mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 4:44 PM
Unfortunately an updated camera isnt going to help the iphone's chances. (no flash) The pre's system is too advanced and it is built for multitasking and simplicity. Look at this video and enough said!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQzCd2OnoM&feature=P ... »


BTW, i personally used both phones so i know what im talking about as well. Also another thing people might not know about the Pre is that you can have multiple web browsers with different web sites opened at once, switch between them, sort them out in order sequence of your likings, and even view them all on one screen.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 4:48 PM
The iPhone doesn't have full multitasking yet, but the underlying technology on the iPhone is far more robust. The application framework is light years ahead of what Palm is offering.

Palm's multitasking isn't fully baked yet. The device I used experience numerous slowdowns and lags that exceed anything you'd experience on an iPhone.
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 4:53 PM
I chose to own the pre over the iphone and as a heavy user on the pre i promise i have not experienced one lag or problem with the phone. I am not hating on the iphone because of its popularity or success, but fact of the matter is, there is a phone out that beats it. Iphone cannot do the things Pre can, or at least like u said, not yet. Well not yet isnt good enough because we can talk about infinate things that havent come out yet that may have potential to outwork anything. So with what is given to us right now, Pre beats iphone. iphone will come out with something to stand a chance. then we can all call iphone a copcat NOW!!!
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:00 PM
Your a liar the pre has no lag issue.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:02 PM
Wrong.

If you're multitasking (browser+music+mail) there's a noticeable lag.
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Disrespect

Jun 8, 2009, 5:03 PM
Well even in the review that Phonescoop put up on the Palm Pre. he said that he had opened up like 50 different things and "NO" LAGGING!

check ur information before trying to lie.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:14 PM
Let me see... yup, definitely experienced it. Oh, and other review sites, too. ( http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron /detail?entry_id=41378 ) and by David Pogue (who liked it and still admits it) http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/technology/ personaltech/04pogue.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
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Disrespect

Jun 8, 2009, 5:23 PM
I am blocked from other sites at work but let me ask u this. Did they expirence lagging with how many apps running or tabs? i bet it had to be alot, not just two or three.

U shouldnt need no more then three or four apps or tabs open at one given moment anyways.

And remember this is a PHONE not a computer, but at least it gives u the option of computer like actions unlike some other phones.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 8:11 PM
I had two browser tabs (one on twitter, one on PS), the Mail client open and was playing music in the background. The music got choppy and I had to wait for about 10 seconds to launch an app.

It did lag, but it wasn't totally unacceptable, but it's noticeable. YES I do like the Pre's multitasking, but it comes at an expense.
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xzavier2008

Jun 9, 2009, 12:07 PM
See this is whats funny to me...BlackBerry came out with the Storm, and said this was going to be an Iphone killer. That flopped... Than LG came out with there so called iPhone killer (the on on Sprint) that too flopped... than Android came out on T Mobile and said that it was also going to put a dent into iPhones reign. Nope not there.... Than Palm Pre said that it was going to make the iPhone run for its money and that it was going to be an iPhone killer...Nope sales numbers arent there. why cause it could sync with iTunes...LoL geeee is anyone seeing something here. Why are all these phones claiming to be better and yet they compare themselves to the iPhone? Is it cause the iPhone is superior in SYNCING with mobile me, is it cause it can ...
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 9, 2009, 4:24 PM
xzavier2008 said:
See this is whats funny to me...BlackBerry came out with the Storm, and said this was going to be an Iphone killer. That flopped... Than LG came out with there so called iPhone killer (the on on Sprint) that too flopped... than Android came out on T Mobile and said that it was also going to put a dent into iPhones reign. Nope not there.... Than Palm Pre said that it was going to make the iPhone run for its money and that it was going to be an iPhone killer...Nope sales numbers arent there. why cause it could sync with iTunes...LoL geeee is anyone seeing something here. Why are all these phones claiming to be better and yet they compare themselves to the iPhone? Is it cause the iPhone is superior in SYNCI
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:05 PM
No there is not i have one here that has 6 tabs running and its not lagging at all. How bout this go grab your iphone and get 2 tabs up.... i will wait.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:09 PM
Look, I've used it, and I've had lagging. So did other review sites. You can watch the video on Phone Scoop and compare the speed to an iPhone... which I'm guessing you've never used!
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:20 PM
LOL phone scoop the site your on stated that they were able to run MULTIPLE TABS WITH NO LAG AT ALL. Stop Lying already, you haven't even touched a pre yet. How bout this tell me how you unlock it.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:27 PM
You swipe your finger in a semicircle. Yeah, amazing, I know. Phone Scoop has their opinion, but there are other reviewers whose sentiments echo mine.
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:35 PM
Again you lied, you slide the lock icon all the way to the top, but of course since your a liar you wouldn't know this.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 8:08 PM
Try it, I'm right.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 9:14 PM
Kayslay34 said:
LOL phone scoop the site your on stated that they were able to run MULTIPLE TABS WITH NO LAG AT ALL. Stop Lying already, you haven't even touched a pre yet. How bout this tell me how you unlock it.


Take it easy there 😳
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scorpio

Jun 8, 2009, 5:02 PM
If "The application framework is light years ahead of what Palm is offering."? Why can't the iphone "multitask"? Why doesn't the iphone have MMS? Why doesn't the iphone have a Synergy like platform. Why doesn't the iphone have an integrated message system?

Numerous slowdowns my a**, you're full of it! 🙄
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:07 PM
I have never seen anyone suck this bad at slaming sprint or one of its products.
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Versed

Jun 8, 2009, 8:17 PM
This is not a Pre or Sprint topic. BTW the one I used in the store seemed lagged, could it be that demo program running, sure.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:08 PM
The iPhone does multitask (Mail, Phone, , but current multitask functionality is limited. If you've used a Pre (or WinMo phone) and have experienced the slowdowns, you understand Apple's reasoning. Not saying they shouldn't get on the ball with multitasking, but

The iPhone does have MMS as of today, and it was mostly a carrier-side issue. Did you miss the rest of the announcements or are you one of the people in a Boost Mobile commercial?
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:09 PM
Lol how is that multitasking if you answer the phone it closes the mailing.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:11 PM
Uh duh, I don't know, maybe the mail application is still able to fetch, compose, and send emails while you're on the phone.

Believe it or not, that's called multitasking!
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 5:14 PM
well then i guess the pre's multitasking beats iphones because of its advanced technology and platform. its far more convenient and attractive to use a pre than an iphone.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:19 PM
No denying the Pre's multitasking beats the iPhone's, but its platform doesn't. You know all those awesome applications the Pre doesn't have? Exactly.

The iPhone can very easily add multitasking with an OS update. It's running OSX, which we already know is capable of it. Offering a robust programming environment... not so quick.
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scorpio

Jun 8, 2009, 5:31 PM
What does the platform have to do with applications. So far the Pre has many more app's than when the 1st iphone launched. The 1st iphone did not have an app store until after a year it released. To date over 1000 developers have signed up for Palms SDK. 60% of those developers created the app's in Apples app store.
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:34 PM
You have to understand your speaking to a idiot. He doesn't take things like that into consideration that the iphone didn't launch with a app store.
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Versed

Jun 8, 2009, 8:19 PM
scorpio said:
What does the platform have to do with applications. So far the Pre has many more app's than when the 1st iphone launched. The 1st iphone did not have an app store until after a year it released. To date over 1000 developers have signed up for Palms SDK. 60% of those developers created the app's in Apples app store.


And the Pre only has 8gb or memory, Apple did that two years ago. Its 2009. I'm sure we can go back and forth with this.
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crammy1

Jun 9, 2009, 10:05 PM
their just starting..a lot of people already mentioned this(even on other sites) palm is trying to regain their fopoting in the market, they know they have a good product at hand but they still need to be prudent about how they lay down their cards, because if they make a mistake theyll lose a lot. thats what apple did, they started small (with 8gig) its only now that their making 32gig phones...and by the way the tech for 32gig phones is quite expensive, and im sure u can count the number of phones that has 32gig internal memory with one hand(to be honest i can only name the iphone3gs and n97 from nokia)
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crammy1

Jun 9, 2009, 10:07 PM
*footing
i knew proofreading the post was a good idea..but i still didnt do it ..hihi 😈
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crammy1

Jun 9, 2009, 9:53 PM
If the iphone can do that...im sure the people at apple would have done it already...or they would have been the bigger idiots ^^
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:17 PM
No it doesn't your not able to USE them both... hence MULTITASKING. You should stop while your ahead lol. Thats like saying if I'm on the phone and i get a call but i cant answer it because it will hang up the current convo and i call it three way because the call still showed up.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:24 PM
Yes you can use them both. MULTITASKING, believe it or not.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/07/iP ... »

Here is a picture! This displays the iPhone doing something else while it's in the call! (On the main menu but you get the gist)

Amazing!

You can be in the mail application while you're on a phone call! You know it because there's that handy green bar on the top!

Amazing!
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Kayslay34

Jun 8, 2009, 5:27 PM
You cant send a email while you are on the phone. Like i said.
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bluecoyote

Jun 8, 2009, 5:35 PM
I just did.
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cellfoneluva

Jun 8, 2009, 6:38 PM
Truth of the matter is. John Q Public aka the 18-35 year old demographic doesn't care about what the Pre can do and what the iphone can't. All he cares about is looking cool.

It's not cool to have a ugly lookin device like the Palm Pre when all of your friends have Sidekicks, G1's and iphones. There is virtually nothing that Palm and/or Sprint can do to pursuade this demographic otherwise. The Pre isn't "cool" enough to appeal to the masses. Plus it's on Sprint!

Like it or not people just want the iphone all because everyone else has one. It doesn't matter whether or it not it can do this and can't do that. Even Creative had better mp3 players when the first ipods came onto the scene. But we all know what the masses chose.

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Decept.ICON

Jun 8, 2009, 5:40 PM
YES YOU CAN! IT'S 3G! SMH!!!!!
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 5:53 PM
unfortunately its not as good as the pre. you cant even browse diffeent web pages at once...sad
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 5:53 PM
Palm pre is the best so far...it does wat the iphone does AND MORE.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 6:21 PM
mikedachamp said:
Palm pre is the best so far...it does wat the iphone does AND MORE.


Except teach you how to spell correctly 🤣
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 6:31 PM
you're an idiot. im not writing an essay here, im chatting, its called being faster. i didnt know i was being graded. o sorry i forgot my apostrophes. dont grade me down teacher.
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Jayshmay

Jun 8, 2009, 6:51 PM
A lot of people on Phone Scoop are jerks and are super critical about childish things like spelling. You just have to decide whether or not some posts are worth responding to.
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 7:29 PM
Thanks. I didn't take it to heart. Some people need to be put in their place. Especially iphone supporters. The end has come. Like I said iphone will be attempting to compete...then everyone can call iphones copy cats.
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Jayshmay

Jun 8, 2009, 7:38 PM
Personally I think the ones that need to be set straight are Verizon supporters, they think they're "network" is so, so much more supioror than ATT, obviously if ATT has 78+ million customers they're network can't be that bad. I'm no fanboy, just an honest consumer.
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 8:28 PM
All verizon customers know are what advertisements tell them. In my area att and sprint ar far more superior than verizon and still verizon customers believe they ar the best
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Jayshmay

Jun 8, 2009, 8:54 PM
Your are indeed one of very, very few honest people on PS! You aren't blinded by carrier bias.
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 9:45 PM
thank you
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 8:22 PM
mikedachamp said:
Thanks. I didn't take it to heart. Some people need to be put in their place. Especially iphone supporters. The end has come. Like I said iphone will be attempting to compete...then everyone can call iphones copy cats.


Although its nice you like your phone, saying foolish things like "the end has come" is just plain hillarious.

These are just phones people 🤣 iphone this...iphone that...copycats? 🤣

Reading all this "my phone is better than your phone and your phone sucks" crap is pretty entertaining actually. 🤣
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crammy1

Jun 9, 2009, 10:21 PM
actually to be honest...thats true^^
none of these phones suck..the fanboys do ^^
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Versed

Jun 8, 2009, 8:22 PM
Jayshmay said:
A lot of people on Phone Scoop are jerks and are super critical about childish things like spelling. You just have to decide whether or not some posts are worth responding to.


I agree, we all typo, we all make mistakes and this goes for both sides of the argument. Overlook it and be a better person for it.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 8:16 PM
mikedachamp said:
you're an idiot. im not writing an essay here, im chatting, its called being faster. i didnt know i was being graded. o sorry i forgot my apostrophes. dont grade me down teacher.


Sounds like an essay to me. If faster is the whole point to your existence, and facts and accuracy are not things that you care about...then it's you that look like the idiot and not me 🤣

Consider yourself graded down 🤣
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mikedachamp

Jun 8, 2009, 8:31 PM
Accuracy for a forum is the least of my concerns. Its speed and ease so I can tell people like you off faster and not take my time on this forum. you obviously hav nothing to saying regarding the previous topic so stop trying to findother ways to look smart.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 8:39 PM
mikedachamp said:
Accuracy for a forum is the least of my concerns.


You said it all right there 😲
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ygbhen

Jun 8, 2009, 7:01 PM
On paper that may be true but many have come and none have been able to dethrone the iPhone. HTC, Samsung, Blackberry, and everyone else had made touchscreen devices and packed them with everything but the kitchen sink but at the end of the day they did not execute well. I think that WebOS is probably the first real competitor to iPhone OS. Once the app catalog grows, we will see how well the Palm evolves because like it or not, I know too many friends and co-workers who own an iPhone and you could not get them to switch for the world. They are not fanboys, Apple just created a user experience that blows the competition away.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 8, 2009, 8:35 PM
You always get what you like and what suits your tastes and needs be it an iphone, Pre, blackberry or whatever.

A device called the curve actually dethroned the iphone in terms of sales this year. It's been around a while, has a trustworthy OS. Yes, you could spin the argument saying it's not a touch screen type phone or that most carriers sold it. It still outsold the iphone in the smartphone class.

The silly arguments on here about "my phone is better than your phone" are truly funny reads. No one will ever convince each other of it anyway.

Just get what you want, be it a fanboy, kool-aid drinker or whatever 🤣
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ygbhen

Jun 8, 2009, 8:46 PM
I agree!
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cellman123

Jun 8, 2009, 10:55 PM
I agree too. Why is it bad that people love the Iphone. What is wrong with being a fanboy. I still like other phones I just have not found one that works as good for me as the Iphone. 😁
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sofa_king_good21

Jun 9, 2009, 8:52 AM
There is no lag on the Pre I had my Pandora music playing while I was twittering while I was texting and arguing with my girlfriend and while I was watching Redtube and they say that men can't mutlitask HA!!! 😎
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 9, 2009, 12:39 PM
sofa_king_good21 said:
There is no lag on the Pre I had my Pandora music playing while I was twittering while I was texting and arguing with my girlfriend and while I was watching Redtube and they say that men can't mutlitask HA!!! 😎

🤣

If I were doing all that, the Pre may or may not be lagging but I am sure I would be 🤣
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fer712

Jun 9, 2009, 12:56 PM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet IPHONE IN YOUR FACE IT IS THE KOOLEST PHONE EVERSSS!!!! PLAM PRE IS BURNING
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mikedachamp

Jun 9, 2009, 1:38 PM
Use the pre for 5 min see why it ****s on the iphone
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Versed

Jun 9, 2009, 6:47 PM
The Pre is a nice phone, so is the iPhone, give it a rest. There is no real right or wrong to this.
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mikedachamp

Jun 9, 2009, 7:29 PM
If the pre has what the iphone has and more then that makes the pre better. Well said by me. There is no they ar both good in their own way. Pre is way more advanced. And apples response with the 3gs is not good enough
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 10, 2009, 12:19 AM
mikedachamp said:
If the pre has what the iphone has and more then that makes the pre better. Well said by me. There is no they ar both good in their own way. Pre is way more advanced. And apples response with the 3gs is not good enough


Give it a rest with the "my phone is better than your phone" garbage.

Although it's entertaiing to see the 1st grade bickering going on, it's also pointless after a while
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mikedachamp

Jun 9, 2009, 9:21 PM
wow apple is a big copycat. the new 3.0 update includes copy, paste, cut, and mms...that is a pre feature!!! apple copies the pre that is sad. it took apple 3 tries...palm 1. yikes whats next from the iphone? advance multitasking features and a querty keyboard and a flash and a shortcut tab that one can pull out in the middle of the use of a program and multiple websites/browsers open at once and...o i give up..iphone is old news now! wooooowwwwww
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 10, 2009, 12:23 AM
mikedachamp said:
wow apple is a big copycat. the new 3.0 update includes copy, paste, cut, and mms...that is a pre feature!!! apple copies the pre that is sad. it took apple 3 tries...palm 1. yikes whats next from the iphone? advance multitasking features and a querty keyboard and a flash and a shortcut tab that one can pull out in the middle of the use of a program and multiple websites/browsers open at once and...o i give up..iphone is old news now! wooooowwwwww


We know...you have said that and said it again. All you are doing at this point is being annoying.

Give it up, you're beating a dead horse 🤣
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