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Verizon certainly isn't waisting anytime. . .

Jayshmay

Apr 17, 2009, 8:18 AM
Sure will be interesting to see which cities have LTE this time next year.

But what I am really curious about is what real world speeds Verizon will initialy launch the LTE network at.
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Overmann

Apr 17, 2009, 9:06 AM
At 700 MHz, I think the priority is not speed but Coverage. If they shoot for high speed at a low frequency there will be bandwidth available only for a low amount of users per tower.

I'm more curious as to how they will get Voice to work over LTE. That's where the beef is, as the lower frequency penetrates much better than 1.9 GHz.
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mosherkl

Apr 17, 2009, 9:58 AM
The bandwidth will support the same number of users regardless of the frequency. The rub is that the 700 MHz will travel further than 850, PCS, AWS, or even WiMax's 2.5 MHz. This results in more potential users being provided service from a particular tower, which means a smaller slice of the fixed bandwidth available.
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Slammer

Apr 17, 2009, 10:39 AM
mosherkl said:
The bandwidth will support the same number of users regardless of the frequency. The rub is that the 700 MHz will travel further than 850, PCS, AWS, or even WiMax's 2.5 MHz. This results in more potential users being provided service from a particular tower, which means a smaller slice of the fixed bandwidth available.


I must correct you on the first sentence of your post. Higher bandwidth frequencies have a much better handling of capacity. So while you make a good point on distance travel, the more potenteial users acquired by a single tower, will indeed slow down the speeds during high traffic usage. The other issue to keep in mind is that lower frequencies are more prone to interference ...
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en102

Apr 17, 2009, 11:41 PM
Thats more of a configuration/power issue than a frequency issue.

Just as 800MHz and 1900MHz exist today (many off the same physical site), you can have 800MHz sites every 1/4 mile in urban areas, reusing spectrum, and ~5-10 miles (or more) apart in rural areas.

The higher frequencies are more difficult to use in rural areas due to propegation, and lower frequencies are more difficult to use in urban high density areas for the exact opposite reason. Lowering the power, and tuning does fix the issue of low frequncies in urban areas but on the flip side... there's only so much power that can be used in transmission.

In the end, speeds should be similar, however, I do suspect that LTE will be more popular due to the same of GSM and te...
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Cellenator

Apr 17, 2009, 3:09 PM
verizon's data sucks sprint is already leading the way....4G in Seattle soon!
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Ace2525

Apr 17, 2009, 4:53 PM
Cellenator said:
verizon's data sucks sprint is already leading the way....4G in Seattle soon!


sprint is a poor mans VzW
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familyguync07

Apr 17, 2009, 6:38 PM
Ok Verizon Sucks... We Have the best 3g network the best voice coverage and the fewest dropped calls !! How dare you say it sucks !!! Welcome to Verizon Wireless America's Largest and Most Dependable Wireless Network!!
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Cellenator

Apr 17, 2009, 7:29 PM
no you dont verizon sucks!
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Overmann

Apr 18, 2009, 9:16 AM
Friend of mine passed up Verizon for Sprint, with the everything package for a little less, then tells me Sprint is worse than Verizon. It's called you get what you pay for.
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VZW611LA

Apr 18, 2009, 12:15 PM
Yea. Very Very Ture.
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Slammer

Apr 18, 2009, 12:38 PM
Overmann said:
Friend of mine passed up Verizon for Sprint, with the everything package for a little less, then tells me Sprint is worse than Verizon. It's called you get what you pay for.


How much are you willing to shell out to get what you pay for? Many people live by this mind set and never use the full potential of what was financially incurred on their part.

I think the point is that not one carrier is a bargain in an industry that as become a technological standard today. We all pay way too much! I have not been with out making a phone call very often, And if I can't, That means there is a chance that there is no VZW either. Just my experience since I am on the road a lot. I only pay 15 dollars e...
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irockash

Apr 18, 2009, 7:10 PM
ZOMG! A sensible post.
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Gorillanorth

Apr 20, 2009, 6:51 PM
I’m glad that you get what you need from Sprint. I also completely agree with what you say about getting what you need vs. what everyone else thinks you should have. However Sprint does not give there average customer what they need. This is why they have a net loss of 1.6 million customers a year. The fact also remains that unless you have a BB or talk none stop and need those unlimited min chances are you will be paying more for your service then you would at AT&T or Verizon. Not to mention you will have better service and less billing errors with both and last but not least the only reason Sprint lowered there prices was to compete with T mobile and to stem the customer loss..
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Slammer

Apr 21, 2009, 8:15 AM
Gorillanorth said:
I’m glad that you get what you need from Sprint. I also completely agree with what you say about getting what you need vs. what everyone else thinks you should have. However Sprint does not give there average customer what they need. This is why they have a net loss of 1.6 million customers a year. The fact also remains that unless you have a BB or talk none stop and need those unlimited min chances are you will be paying more for your service then you would at AT&T or Verizon. Not to mention you will have better service and less billing errors with both and last but not least the only reason Sprint lowered there prices was to compete with T mobile and to stem the customer loss..


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Gorillanorth

Apr 21, 2009, 5:19 PM
I would never try to change your mind about Sprint. Like I said I'm glad that they work for you and your company.Having worked for Sprint I know more then most about billing issues I spent 90 percent of my day fixing or trying to fix them.Three years ago I started working at Verizon. I have never had any issues with my Verizon bill and to there credit I spend very little time working on billing issues for there customers and when I do it is almost all ways the customers fault where with Sprint it was almost all ways Sprints fault. Again not trying to get you to come to the dark side lol These are just my experiences with the Sprint and Verizon.
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familyguync07

Apr 18, 2009, 7:29 PM
Yea Whatever Sprint is sure leading the way not posting a postive number for quite some time!! LTE 4g = the end of sprint trust me they will be bought out nextel is the end of the begining for sprint!! When people are willing to pay like $50 more to get verizon that must tell you something and what good is 4g going to be in one market?? Well it will be about as good as their crap customer service Verizon maybe can buy the divested markets once they tank!! HAHAHAHA Bye Bye Sprint
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Cellenator

Apr 19, 2009, 10:59 AM
If you think sprint is going to tank then that really shows how little you know.




http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...room&ID=1277707 » »

Sprint Receives $7.3 Million U.S. Department of Energy Grant to Expand Hydrogen Fuel Cell Deployment

Largest Single Grant Awarded by Department of Energy as Part of $41.9 Million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Funding for Fuel Cell Technology

OVERLAND PARK, Kan., Apr 17, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Sprint (NYSE:S) announced today it is the only wireless carrier to be awarded a $7.3 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy as part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funding earmarked for fuel cell technology. This is the largest single grant awarded by the Depar...
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Gorillanorth

Apr 20, 2009, 6:41 PM
I’m confused! What does investing in hydrogen fuel cells have to do with anything? Its simple math Sprint has at least a negative net loss of 400,000 customers a quarter. They will go under. You can not lose 1.6 million customers a year and expect to stay in business.
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Slammer

Apr 19, 2009, 3:48 PM
familyguync07 said:
Yea Whatever Sprint is sure leading the way not posting a postive number for quite some time!! LTE 4g = the end of sprint trust me they will be bought out nextel is the end of the begining for sprint!! When people are willing to pay like $50 more to get verizon that must tell you something and what good is 4g going to be in one market?? Well it will be about as good as their crap customer service Verizon maybe can buy the divested markets once they tank!! HAHAHAHA Bye Bye Sprint


Do you always piss before you unzip?
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Azeron

Apr 18, 2009, 11:59 PM
I wonder if we can expect tri-mode handsets in the future? 700/800/1900 with 700 for data only with 800 and 1900 for voice and data?
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