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Really???

dmack

Apr 16, 2009, 6:11 PM
"Apple never considered building a CDMA version of the iPhone due to CDMA's more limited distribution footprint."

I thought Apple made the iPhone for VZW first and VZW turned it down, then went to AT&T with it.
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bluecoyote

Apr 16, 2009, 6:14 PM
No, Apple never made a version for Verizon Wireless. They had originally looked into Verizon but chose to go with AT&T instead after a combination of factors, one of them reported to be Verizon's "why would our customers want an iPhone when we can give them an LG VOYAGER?" attitude.
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irockash

Apr 16, 2009, 6:21 PM
Or more Verizon wanting more control over the phone. With the current one, there's little to none AT&T involvement, other then the network.

Probably the same reason why Verizon is lagging on firmware updates for the Storm, while other carriers arn't.
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vzw_achiever

Apr 16, 2009, 6:48 PM
irockash said:
Or more Verizon wanting more control over the phone. With the current one, there's little to none AT&T involvement, other then the network.

Probably the same reason why Verizon is lagging on firmware updates for the Storm, while other carriers arn't.

Oh, so all the other carriers of the Storm have newer software. I see. 🙄
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AshDizzle

Apr 16, 2009, 6:56 PM
Isn't the newest OFFICIAL storm OS 4.7.0.75? Bell has release 4.7.0.122.

That's a pretty big lag.

I know they are planning to release .113 but that isn't official yet.
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OldPhone

Apr 16, 2009, 7:13 PM
I have worked for both Verizon Wireless and Cingular/AT&T, where I worked as a retail store manager.

When Cingular announced the iPhone a few years ago the then CEO Stan Sigman made a video statement that was sent to the company that Apple did indeed first go to Verizon, and Apple essentially wanted to start an MVNO and Verizon turned them down. Apple then approached Stan and he was more open to the arrangement and advised them against the MVNO due to the obvious reasons of having to come up with rate plans, billing systems, sales, support, tech service, etc. Stan offered them to allow Cingular to sell their phone instead, do all the hard work and offered Apple a heck of a deal on the cut of the feature sales, which we all know is requi...
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AshDizzle

Apr 16, 2009, 7:46 PM
Really. I have worked for AT&T for 3 years and watch all the internal videos e-mail updates, and have never seen anything close to this.

What was the date of the video? I assume this was on Jack TV because that was where Stan used to post videos.
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dca

Apr 17, 2009, 10:42 AM
Also, one spec for the entire world. One chipset w/ quad-band covers everyone. Apple never really wanted to give money to a 3rd party (Qualcomm for CDMA) in this venture. Lets face it, the subsidization of the iPhone has costed ATT almost 2B a year...
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bluecoyote

Apr 17, 2009, 11:11 AM
Uh..... versus what?
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AshDizzle

Apr 17, 2009, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I'll gladly spend 2 billion if I can make 3.
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irockash

Apr 16, 2009, 9:02 PM
Beats me really, I haven't kept up. But glancing at Engadget, they're usually complaining about Verizon and software updates, so I assumed this was the case. My bad.

But this still means Verizon would have to relinquish control of the hardware if they wanted the iPhone. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.
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AshDizzle

Apr 16, 2009, 6:50 PM
From what I understand, most people in the wireless industry see the comment as a tough-guy retort after the late Cingular signed the deal with Apple, and the news took the world by storm.

Jim Gerace, Vice President - Corporate Communications of Verizon said:
"We said no. We have nothing bad to say about the Apple iPhone. We just couldn't reach a deal that was mutually beneficial."
USA Today, 01/29/07


The article is here: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28- verizon-iphone_x.htm?POE=TECISVA

This is the only evidence of the "Verizon turned down the iphone" craze I have ever seen. People have now turned it into "Apple came to Verizon first."

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cellanator

Apr 17, 2009, 3:33 AM
Lets not also forget that Steve Jobs stated that his only regret with the I phone is that its not on Verizon's network. Verizon Wireless turned the phone down originally down for several reasons...

1)They can't support the device. If there is anything wrong with the device they cannot support it and have to have apple do it. Verizon Wireless cannot ensure customer satisfaction with a customer that owns an Iphone

2)Verizon Wireless would not make any money off of this deal. With the aggrement that AT&T Wireless has with apple they still have to see a singe cent from this deal. Buisness is Buisness and Verizon Wireless is still the largest most reliable and best customer service in the united states. Without the IPhone. Once VZW ge...
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AshDizzle

Apr 17, 2009, 6:51 AM
That is the worst post I have ever read.
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VZW611LA

Apr 17, 2009, 11:04 AM
Its all true tho.
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irockash

Apr 17, 2009, 6:39 PM
Second worst post.

Unless we're talking about blanket statements and over-generialization... you might have a point.
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dca

Apr 17, 2009, 10:46 AM
VZW is in cohoots with Microsoft. That's the only reason. Why didn't VZW sign w/ Google for search????

VZW has been last to the ball for EVERYTHING!!! Upper-exec management has no vision whatsoever of what the next 'Big Thing' is going to be so they leave it up to the manufacturers. The only thing they can come up w/ is unified UI so phone reps/tech support won't have to look in a book or intranet to assist customers, oh well, I don't see Jobs' team re-writing ANYTHING on the iPhone just to make VZW happy...
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japhy

Apr 17, 2009, 3:36 PM
There's some severe bovine excrement that must be sorted through here:

cellanator said:
Steve Jobs stated that his only regret with the I phone is that its not on Verizon's network.


When did he say that? Dare I ask for a citation? There's no possible reason a CEO would make such a statement about a competitor to a business partner. That's like Michael Dell saying "If only we could have all our computers run Linux" while standing next to Steve Ballmer. It would be not only rude, but incredibly dumb from a business standpoint.


cellanator said:
1)They can't support the device. If there is anything wrong with the device they cannot support it and have to have apple do i
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Overmann

Apr 21, 2009, 9:28 AM
And what about the stores selling a $500 phone for $200?
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