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What About TDMA Carriers?

JeffL

May 25, 2005, 6:00 PM
As someone who works for one of the remaining (US) TDMA carriers, I'm interested in knowing what the solution is for TDMA providers.

If we use the pseudoESN solution, we wouldn't be able to use our fraud detection system.

If we implemented MEID (and it's not clear from the article if it's being considered for TDMA), it sounds like an expensive HLR/VLR and billing system upgrade.

Very interesting topic, Eric! Thanks for bringing it up.

Jeff
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Rich Brome

May 25, 2005, 6:25 PM
Good question. You're right that this affects TDMA as much as CDMA.

But what will happen is that manufacturers simply won't be able to make new TDMA phones. That's not a big deal, since production of new TDMA phones has already dropped off to practically nothing.

I think manufacturers could easily make and stockpile enough TDMA phones this year to meet all future demand for TDMA phones (not much) without having a huge impact on their supply of remaining ESNs for new CDMA phones.

And of course, all existing TDMA phones will continue to operate just fine. There's nothing wrong with current ESNs, just that we're running out of new ones.
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JeffL

May 25, 2005, 6:48 PM
Rich Brome said:

I think manufacturers could easily make and stockpile enough TDMA phones this year to meet all future demand for TDMA phones (not much) without having a huge impact on their supply of remaining ESNs for new CDMA phones.


Making no OSS upgrades sounds great to me. And we're doing our part for ESN conservation by selling almost nothing but refurbished phones! 😉
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matt1981m

May 30, 2005, 3:21 PM
also there is the fact that most TDMA carriers are migrating to CDMA or GSM
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maokh

Jun 2, 2005, 10:35 AM
It sounds like this will make AMPS go out with a bang!

There are a couple of rural, low budget operations in the United States that may not make the switch anytime soon. Sounds like you better get your phones now if you want an AMPS side!
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spartacus51

May 26, 2005, 7:14 PM
One other thing of note on topic. I wouldn't be too concerned about fraud control. Remember even if it does come to an issue of duplicating ESNs, it'd only be a DUPLICATE, as in double, as in two. What are the odds of both ESNs showing up on the same network and the same geographic region?

The same applies to cases of the duplicate SMS or the service cancellations, it would have to occur that both be on the same network (I assume, someone correct me if I'm wrong) so yes, your odds become slightly higher than same geographical (1 in 6 or so)
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matt1981m

May 30, 2005, 3:56 PM
the odds are slim....but think about it.... "Murphy's Law"....it is bound to happen... 🤣
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