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I'll try not to think about it

muchdrama

May 24, 2005, 1:30 PM
This is the sort of thing that I don't want to know about (but it's damned interesting...thanks Rich!)
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DDA

May 24, 2005, 2:43 PM
Gonna have to second that. Very interesting and something that effects some of us here. Thank you Eric, for giving me something else to keep me awake at night.
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WirelessStoned

May 24, 2005, 2:50 PM
Oh man I knew I should have stayed with GSM ............................................. .............................................
Nah I'd rather work for a verizon who can not activate any phones than with Cingular anyday lol 😛 👿 😈
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V.Grimm

May 24, 2005, 4:05 PM
can't they just start mixing esn and hexs that will double there esn numbers? I don't think it will be that hard to temporarily fix until they figure out something better.
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Rich Brome

May 24, 2005, 4:43 PM
Nope. 32 bits is 32 bits, decimal or hex.

ESNs are already represented as hex sometimes, depending on the context, which is why you'll usually see both the decimal and hex representations printed on the label of any CDMA phone. It's the same 32-bit code either way.

Decimal and hex are just for us humans. The 32-bit binary number is what the systems care about, and that can't be expanded that way unless you want to add "2" to "0" and "1". 😉
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rzande1

May 25, 2005, 10:27 AM
yea there is already a mix of hex and deciminal. The esn on my phone is alphanumeric.
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phone tech

May 26, 2005, 12:17 AM
That is just hex. Hex consists of 16 characters, 0-9 and A-F.
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matt1981m

May 30, 2005, 3:43 PM
the alphanumeric (HEX) esn is just a computation of DEC ESN...they mean the same thing....
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phone tech

May 26, 2005, 12:01 AM
which is why you'll usually see both the decimal and hex representations printed on the label of any CDMA phone.
Yes most, but LG has stuck with the old school HEX format. makes it a pain to do ESN changes for those of us at the store level when it asks for a dec. ESN.
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spartacus51

May 26, 2005, 6:12 PM
Aww c'mon, you can't convert hex to dec in your head?

Curious, what carrier? Sprint's LGs all have hex and dec. But I suppose that's a matter of sprint doing the packaging.
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phone tech

May 26, 2005, 10:39 PM
I used to be able to with smaller #s when I was in school and hex was forced down you throats, but I have no steady use for it now.
What carrier VZW and yes on the box it is in both, but if someone comes in with a phone, behind the battery it's all hex 😡 .
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spartacus51

May 27, 2005, 12:35 PM
Well I guess all I can say to that is sucks to be you then. Made me think about it and I didn't really know so I checked. Sprint puts their own ESN label on, has hex and dec, not to mention system supports either or.

On a side note, you must have been the cool kid in the school. Only numbers I ever cared to convert in my head are 0-9
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phonerboi74

Jul 19, 2005, 6:23 PM
just curious...anyone here have the binary equivalents of decimal digits memorized?

how about the binary equivalents of hex digits?
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tropicalhaven

Aug 6, 2005, 1:17 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, here you go:

Dec Binary
0 0
1 1
2 10
3 11
4 100
5 101
6 110
7 111
8 1000
9 1001
10 1010
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