Union Authorizes Strike Against AT&T
Top message: With so many people unemployed right now by taoareyou
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Let's hope the unions have some documentation or management to testify to directly support this claim.
What can you reference to back up this claim?
Unfortunately, to do so would jeopardize my own job, even though these forums are set up with anonymous user names. I can tell you this: as a manager, I am privy to information that isn't shared with the folks out on the production floor. I know for a fact that management lies about the real purpose behind policies they implement, and many actively seek ways to terminate workers they dislike. This is reality.
I don't think companies want to revert the economy to an early 1900's standard of living. You do realize that companies rely on consumers? They don't want unemployed families because unemployed families don't purchase their products and services. During hard times they still have to keep improving to remain competitive as well as remain profitable enough to make investors keep their capital in the company.
Personally, I don't think it's a matter of social economics to these corporations. If they cared about that, they would never hire illegals or contracted workers who, for the most part, live way below what is considered the poverty level. I think the bottom line to them is their own bottom line.
I can assure you, running a huge corporation is not as simple as many of the entry level employees seem to think it is. No decision by a company of this scale is done lightly and it has been gone over countless times before implementing it.
I don't think anyone has said that running large corporations is simple. What I am saying is that these decisions are based on what's best for their bottom line, not the workers, who are considered expendable overhead.
taoare you said:
If you think public perception has no play in something like this, you are being short sighted. As far as maintaining their jobs, one possible outcome could be a compromise where some of the union demands are kept, but additional employees are laid off or outsourced to offset the cost.
Good unions don't accept terms like that. If their's does, they need to be voted out.
For every corporate sales location that shuts down, there are multiple agent businesses that would be more than happy to take up the slack.
For every union call center that shuts down, there are other non-union call centers that can open.
So, as a union member, are you willing to accept that the strike may result in some workers not paying as much for their health care and in return your job is eliminated?
I am NOT a union member, and wouldn't be eligible even if a union did exist at my place of employment due to my position within the company.
Yes, it's true that there's always someone out there willing to work for less money, longer hours, etc. etc. The problem is that these folks are probably incapable of holding down a real job somewhere else. Where I work, it's mostly druggies and illegals who can't obtain employment elsewhere for obvious reasons. Most companies don't care how stupid, unreliable, or spaced out someone is if they are willing to work for peanuts.
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