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The Reason for Nextel vs others

rockstar323

Jan 16, 2009, 6:22 PM
All cell phones calls are dependent on land lines. so if there is a major catastrophe and the land lines are down you wont have cell service either. this doesnt apply to nextel direct connect. Nextel DC is supported by SMR radios at each site. this can be a tower or, in the case of an emergency, a mobile tower with smr radios. during 9/11 the only phones that worked at ground zero was nextel. also nextel's can DC without a signal to each other within a short distance. so when it comes down to it would you rather have the nations largest network which is pretty much useless if land lines are down or a network that will work and has been proven to work in an emergency? i think the answer is simple.
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tetero

Jan 16, 2009, 6:31 PM
verizon was the only carrier working during the NYC Blackout lol
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rockstar323

Jan 16, 2009, 6:38 PM
all cell companies were down nextel rolled out mobile towers to ground zero for everyone to communicate. they also supplied phones.
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 4:30 AM
Do you live in NYC?
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Cellenator

Jan 16, 2009, 7:11 PM
but it's funny as all hell be that sprint is already crying poor-mouth poor-mouth, hook a brother up! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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MidnightDT

Jan 16, 2009, 7:58 PM
actually you are wrong. calls mobile to mobile (as in vzw to vzw or att to att) do not pass thru a landline terminal. only wireless to landline or wireless to a diff wireless carrier pass thru a landline terminal.

so you are not entirely correct. if they all had VZW and the landlines went down they would still be able to communicate without issue.
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Jobeleca

Jan 16, 2009, 11:33 PM
When I was hired at Cingular back in 2006 part of the training was a diagram of how the network works. You are correct that only calls to/from a landline or another carrier go through the traditional phone network. You are incorrect that M2M calls do not travel through wires, they traveled by separate T1 lines, though the type of lines may have since changed it is still a landline, just not the traditional phone network landlines.

Anything that is likely to knock out a traditional phone landline is also likely to knock out the other type of line. You would not even be able to communicate to the person next to you if that line system went down because the signal goes to the local tower, which goes to a regional center (via a line) which...
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MidnightDT

Jan 17, 2009, 2:48 AM
yeah but you are wrong because t1 lines have nothing to do with phone lines. it would take two entirely different events to cause both to go down. regular phone lines going down would not interupt t1 lines for m2m calling. its happened many times before when landline companies have had outages yet people can still use their cell phones.
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 4:54 AM
What about 3G data? HSPA/EVDO Rev. A? Is that routed over T1 lines also? What about fiber? Those are good cables to use?
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Jobeleca

Jan 17, 2009, 6:43 PM
More recently trained people could answer that, but that stuff just didn't exist at the time.
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Mektah

Jan 17, 2009, 9:45 AM
Actually you are wrong. Whether it's T1 lines or phone lines, all cellular communications services run through trunk lines which you guessed it are owned by the landline phone companies. So yes if landlines are down your precious mobile to mobile cell service would not work. That I know of no cell phone company has run it's own lines that are 100% independent of landline main trunklines, this also applies to home internet carriers/cable...etc.
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MidnightDT

Jan 18, 2009, 12:25 PM
then explain to me how (countless times) landline service will be out in an area but cell phones are still working. huh genius?
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knx2

Jan 18, 2009, 1:30 PM
wanna risk it? If you are ready to risk your life to your carrier fine. but im not!
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MidnightDT

Jan 18, 2009, 4:04 PM
fearmongering to try to get a government network deal? thats funny.
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knx2

Jan 18, 2009, 4:18 PM
Emergency services already use Nextel why would they switch? Sprint wants to build out the network more and make it more reliable IMO. So if it works already why switch? OH I KNOW because they already researched other companies and said NEXTEL is the BEST choice for us.

So sit down. Rolling Eyes
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calif1mc

Jan 17, 2009, 10:36 PM
I want a network that has coverage where I live, and Nextel and Sprint are no shows up here (Mendocino County, Northwestern California), give me the network please Smile
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Mektah

Jan 18, 2009, 8:48 AM
As I said before, if there is an emergency, no one will look for you. Laughing Twisted Evil
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TechBoy2881

Jan 18, 2009, 3:21 PM
I think the biggest reason to go with Nextel as opposed to the others is the 700 MHZ footprint. That wavelength can penetrate into a lot of places that Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile can't. Places like buildings that are on fire, or underneath collapsed structures.

Also, regardless of how calls are made, having the option of your phone also having an alternate 2-way communications system (DirecTalk) built in, without extra handsets or hardware is crucial.

Now, whether this carrier or that carrier was still in service on 9/11 or during Katrina is pretty irrelevant. At one moment or another, every carrier has failed while others were triumphant. The important thing is to look at the whole. With Verizon and AT&T, you have a wide...
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yakman

Jan 19, 2009, 10:26 AM
I work with Sprint Nextel, and was a top performing manager at VZW.

This solution is unlike any other in the industry as the trucks use a satellite backhaul to connect to the nationwide network. This means that in the affected area, this vehicle is not reliant on the impacted PSTN and related infrastructure.ATT and VZW simply cant do this with any track record or reliability. They require connection to a surviving T-1 line or a microwave hop to an existing site...pretty serious assumptions/requirements in a disaster. This solution can be deployed in an area with zero coverage and provide coverage and connectivity to the nationwide network. Consumer solution? Probably Not. First Responder and Major Enterprise customer - No Brainer.

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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 4:18 PM
Thanks for posting this info. Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. Who would know better then someone who has worked for both companies. Very Happy
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