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Sprint Asks Obama to Set Up $2 Billion First-Responder Network

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MarkCohen

Jan 16, 2009, 3:46 PM
You're either with Sprint, or you don't care about the well-being of Americans in emergency situations.

I can't wait to see how all the haters will spin this.
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Basic3

Jan 16, 2009, 3:50 PM
Here's how I view it:

Dan Hessy's crew proposes to the President that they GIVE them 2 billion dollars, disguised as funds to set up a First Responder network. Because he's driving both Sprint and Nextel into the ground.

I don't think it has as much to do about 'being with Sprint' as it does putting pressure on the government to buy into a MUCH needed way to coordinate emergency departments when there is a disaster or a wide scale emergency.

I am not saying there shouldn't be a dedicated network, I'm just saying that Sprint shouldn't be the network.

Yes I'm biased... it's just an opinion.
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JL9000

Jan 16, 2009, 4:01 PM
this is being setup due to the fact that its needed if you read he is not saying hey help me build wimax it brings up vechicles and alot of other things and yes sprint is the best to carrier out this job or wait we could use verizon ptt because ppl really do have a matter of minutes to live compared to the seconds it would take with sprints ptt just my thought
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VZW_insider

Jan 16, 2009, 4:08 PM
Interesting that you would assume Verizon's PTT takes minutes to connect. In fact Verizon's REV-A PTT works just as well as Sprextels. I'm willing to be AT&T's PTT service is comparable as well nowadays.

It doesn't make sense for the government to fund Sprint's emergency response plan to the tune of 2 billion unless they are prepared to fund everyone carrier in the same respect. Just another company asking for money from the taxpayer.

And to those who are about to go on claiming I hate Sprint, I actually loved Sprint back in the day, they made some costly decisions and should have to deal with the consequences of those decisions... such is the world of business.
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JL9000

Jan 16, 2009, 4:20 PM
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sorry but if i was in danger im sure you know which one i would want the government to back those are facts look them up
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Americanstud1987

Jan 16, 2009, 4:35 PM
I think they should just trade their services to Verizon since the CDMA coverage is more reliable, and just let Sprint fail as a company. Oh wait, its already doing that itself.
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WiWavelength

Jan 16, 2009, 4:47 PM
Americanstud1987 said:
I think they should just trade their services to Verizon since the CDMA coverage is more reliable...


Yep, "reliable" is a word from VZW's marketing slogan. So, it must be true.

AJ
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Americanstud1987

Jan 16, 2009, 4:51 PM
It's actually true if you compare coverage areas to Sprint, or At&t. At&t is only really good in cities, and Sprint isn't really good..any where.. yeah,.
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Sprint Noobie

Jan 16, 2009, 5:00 PM
get over yourself american.... i have sprint, my service is great and i live in the city troll.
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KennyJ19

Jan 16, 2009, 6:52 PM
i work for at&t and have a PTT phone from them but i also have Nextel Ic502..and we have done a side by side and nextel is much faster then at&t and we have also done a side by side with VZW and you can see that Nextel is faster.. I know that PTT is not for every one and alot of people don't like it but for the ones that do use it Nextel is the way to go. but no matter what anyone says its all about what you want and what works for you the best.

My IC502 work with CDMA for voice and Data and Iden for DC..i have better coverage with my SprintNextel phone then i do with my at&t work phone witch is a Blackberry bold and the New Motorola Tundra PTT phone.

I also go all over the US big City and small and i have been with at&t for over 4yrs...
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FknTwizted

Jan 17, 2009, 12:31 PM
well the funny thing is that sprint has to get the equipment ie the trucks and what not in which vzw already has these and uses them when service is interrupted in a area. I'm not dogging any company here I'm just saying why would it be a good choice to give a company to acquire these to make their service work in an emergency situation when their competitors already do this... i don't know about att I'm sure i will get confirmed on this issue that they have them too. i think they should evaluate all the companies and see which one will be more cost effective and more reliable and not whim out $2mil because remember people that this is OUR money that they are flinging around. but then again the government loves doing things and not thinkin...
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WiWavelength

Jan 16, 2009, 5:04 PM
Oops, looks like you spilled some of that big red Kool-Aid on your shirt.

AJ
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BigShowJB

Jan 20, 2009, 1:04 PM
shirt, pants, shoes socks and I think it maty have seeped into his brain when he sat down...
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nexsprint

Jan 17, 2009, 1:57 PM
No company would dare lie on their coverage map would they?

Get over yourself and your overmarketed "network"
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 5:12 AM
Personally, I don't call it a "marketing slogan", I call it brain washing!!!
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BigShowJB

Jan 20, 2009, 12:58 PM
which is exactly what marketing tries to do...
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stoopered

Jan 16, 2009, 5:25 PM
Sprint owned most of Verizon's towers but recently sold to Tower Co. What crack are you smoking? Sprints network actually has more coverage than any other cell phone company Geographically speaking. Consumers who disliked Sprint because of their bad service years ago still rate Sprint bad. Remember it's the "Most dependable network in the country"
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llama

Jan 16, 2009, 5:31 PM
stoopered said:
Sprint owned most of Verizon's towers
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stoopered

Jan 16, 2009, 5:04 PM
Wrong. It does not work as well as Sprints. Do you listen to yourself? Have you tried both? I have and Verizon's is a joke.
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 5:23 AM
No they don't listen to themseleves, that's why I like to call them Verizon crackheads, cause they're drug addicts of Verizon.
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Basic3

Jan 19, 2009, 2:30 PM
JL9000,

Sprint's PTT is not superior to Verizon. And Most people would say that it doesn't come CLOSE to IDEN. It requires EVDO speed and that is not available everywhere. Statistics show that IDEN DC is more reliable than Sprint's PTT. No EVDO no PTT.
Rarely do you see and IDEN user have no DC service.
To push an Emergency Response Frequency that depends on PTT to a Sprint format would put people in rural areas in serious jeopardy.
If ANY carrier can find a way to EFFECTIVELY put a PPT system on CDMA AND IDEN it would be almost flawless... Please do not site the recent Sprint PPT to Nextel DC'ers to me. It doesn't work. My company was the first dealer of Nextel in Michigan. PTT is NOT DC. Sprint has driven DC into the ground and dis...
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WhoDey

Jan 16, 2009, 5:15 PM
But if you think Hesse is "driving them into the ground" you are either willfuly ignorant, or trolling... and Im not sure which is worse.

Theyre not on solid ground, but by nearly every measure, theyre doing better than this time last year.
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sprintrep08

Jan 16, 2009, 5:19 PM
any ptt service that uses Rev A is garbage including sprints DCS phones.. nextel is the only strong, real ptt service
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llama

Jan 16, 2009, 5:29 PM
Nextel they were trying to sell off?
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sprintrep08

Jan 16, 2009, 5:30 PM
sprint decided to keep and rejuvenate the company
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tetero

Jan 16, 2009, 5:57 PM
Go and check the stocks....at $2/share see how long they will last. It's only a matter of time before some company buys sprint.

Don't think they will last too long, and this is just a way to ask for money instead of calling it a Bailout
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JL9000

Jan 16, 2009, 6:05 PM
man 2.00 a share time to buy anytime a company gets money from the government there stock goses up Laughing Laughing and with the pre and wimax that would be smart to buy
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 5:32 AM
I am certainly not a Sprint fanboy, but I think the Pre will do very, very good for Sprint, even better than the Instinct.
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BigShowJB

Jan 20, 2009, 1:56 PM
I'm gonna snag a couple hundred shares when I get my taxes done this year
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Jayshmay

Jan 17, 2009, 5:27 AM
I haven't seen you here in the PS forums for quite a while.
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Basic3

Jan 19, 2009, 3:46 PM
Please enlighten me, what your basis for 'by nearly ever measure they are doing better than this time last year'.
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DiamondPro

Jan 16, 2009, 10:30 PM
Sprint is trying to help bottom line. This is not some plea to get money by any means. If they were it be a whole lot more that 2 billion dollars. Bank of america is getting 20 billion and lets not even talk about what the big 3 car makers need to survive. With this program everyone in America will benefit from the already great service Sprint provides during disasters. I think its necessary because for tax payers money we get something in return and Sprint has already made it clear what this money will be used for. Think of the benefits a service like this would have had during 911 or Katrina.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 16, 2009, 11:41 PM
To ask for any taxpayer money during difficult economic times makes little sense. Put more burden on the poor old taxpayer now will you Sprint?

Disguise a bailout plan for Sprint behind providing a "first responder" network?
Of course Sprint has to say it cares and just happens whip its iden technology out and tell everyone "we are here to help"

At least the automakers have the guts to tell the american people they need to to directly save their own buts (be it true or not).

Sprint has gone too far.
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jrfdsf

Jan 17, 2009, 12:13 PM
HawkeyeOC said:
To ask for any taxpayer money during difficult economic times makes little sense. Put more burden on the poor old taxpayer now will you Sprint?

Disguise a bailout plan for Sprint behind providing a "first responder" network?
Of course Sprint has to say it cares and just happens whip its iden technology out and tell everyone "we are here to help"

At least the automakers have the guts to tell the american people they need to to directly save their own buts (be it true or not).

Sprint has gone too far.

Even more disgusting is when a Sprint hater posts negative blather about something that company is doing "disguised" as an opinion.
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MarkCohen

Jan 17, 2009, 1:39 PM
jrfdsf, may I just say you're like my favorite poster here?

Seriously, not one valid and well-supported fact has been used in the arguments against Sprint/Nextel on this one. The same can't be said for the other side.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 17, 2009, 3:54 PM
MarkCohen said:
jrfdsf, may I just say you're like my favorite poster here?

Seriously, not one valid and well-supported fact has been used in the arguments against Sprint/Nextel on this one. The same can't be said for the other side.


The biggest argument against Sprint/Nextel on this issue (the same goes for Verizon, T-mobile, or AT&T if it were them instead asking for money) is the fact that they are asking for the money.
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MarkCohen

Jan 17, 2009, 5:00 PM
Yeah, how dare they ask for money to perform a service?

Do you honestly believe that any other carrier would do this for free (assuming of course they were able to do such a thing dependably)?

I'll answer that for you. No. And no one would mind. You just pick apart Sprint at any given opportunity because you think that quantity of points/complaints = quality of arguments.

PROTIP: They don't.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 17, 2009, 8:47 PM
well, it was nice of you to choose sides for me.

And yes, "how dare they ask for money to perform a service"

Now if the government came to them or opened up bidding for such a service it would be considered legitimate.

begging for money isn't Surprised
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 17, 2009, 3:44 PM
jrfdsf said:


Even more disgusting is when a Sprint hater posts negative blather about something that company is doing "disguised" as an opinion.


If this were AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon or any other company my comment would have been the same.

As Diamond pointed out, this is about a companies bottom line and not about caring
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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 1:33 AM
You always manage to twist something I post. I did not say this was to help Sprint's bottom line but to help people across the US. Everyone face with a tragic disaster could benefit from this. When people lives are on the line seconds matter the most and you can't put a price on that! Period! And if Sprint were trying to get money it be a lot more then 2 billion. Stop hating. I'm sure if it were anyone but Sprint you would be ranting about how great the idea is.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 2:31 AM
A little late to the party Diamond Laughing

Feeling a little paranoid are you? Paranoid
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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 3:57 PM
No just have a life unlike u Laughing

I don't have time to be on here constantly reading and replying to everyone.

If I did I would be in here correcting you all day long Rolling Eyes

So when I have the time I will get back to your lil games you like play. Razz

Some day I hope you will grow up and stop following me around Eh?
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 4:16 PM
If your "correcting" of me consists of your Sprint commercials, you are living in a very strange fantasy world Surprised

Your paranoia is getting the best of you Diamond...I am everywhere on phonescoop and you by admission tell us:

"I don't have time to be on here constantly reading and replying to everyone."

So your arguement is a week one at best about following you.

Grow up and get over it Very Happy
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phonegnome

Jan 18, 2009, 9:23 PM
I whole-heartedly agree that asking for taxpayers to foot the bill is not a very good thing at all at this time. From what I gather according to the article though, is that the government was looking to spend money anyway to create an emergency response network. This undoubtedly is very costly. Much, much more than 2 billion. Sprint currently is the owner of the IDEN network. This without doubt, is the system most government and emergency response teams already rely on and widely use for this kind of service. Sprint is financially stricken and on their own, cannot really afford to enhance the network to what kind of service that the government is seeking. They are however, already the major supplier of most of the equipment needed and curren...
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 18, 2009, 10:26 PM
The Feds have moved or are moving away from iden. Sprint lost out on a recent high dollar govt. contract I believe in '07 for phone services and other carriers have moved into territory once held by Sprint.

Assuming the government is interested in what Sprint wanted to provide, open this up to bidding.

Otherwise, this is just a handout to Sprint. AT&T has already been able to pull this off without front money.

Should be interesting to see what happens with this administration. Dems are not historically corporate friendly.
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trey1475

Jan 18, 2009, 12:47 AM
Uhhhm.... Sprint is the last network I'd want to rely on during an emergency. Lol at Sprint trying to get their bailout package on the sly. We up to ya games sprint.
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WiWavelength

Jan 18, 2009, 12:52 AM
Thanks for sharing your worthless opinion. Nobody cares.

AJ
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 18, 2009, 1:18 AM
WiWavelength said:
Thanks for sharing your worthless opinion. Nobody cares.

AJ


And thank you for doing the same Laughing
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WiWavelength

Jan 18, 2009, 1:35 AM
HawkeyeOC said:


And thank you for doing the same Laughing


No, as a researcher in the wireless industry for the past eight years, my informed opinion is actually worth something, unlike most of the blather (yours included) that poses as discourse in this forum.

So, you can listen and learn. Or you can continue to spout hot air.

AJ
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 18, 2009, 2:23 AM
WiWavelength said:


No, as a researcher in the wireless industry for the past eight years, my informed opinion is actually worth something, unlike most of the blather (yours included) that poses as discourse in this forum.

So, you can listen and learn. Or you can continue to spout hot air.

AJ


Your contribution to the "discourse in this forum" is dually noted as well as your own blathering.
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Americanstud1987

Jan 18, 2009, 5:53 PM
HawkeyeOC said:


Your contribution to the "discourse in this forum" is dually noted as well as your own blathering.



I agree. Wavelength adds more insult to injury. Anyone can post as they feel, and your no one to say they can't. Your post was uncalled for, and a waste of our time reading.
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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 1:49 AM
Here's another pointless opinion I'd like to see removed. You wouldn't even be in this discussion had you not followed me in here like you do everywhere I go. Then you reply over and over spreading your biased against Sprint. If you would not rely on Sprint's Iden network during emergency's you obviously are not looking for the best option and most effective solution.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 2:42 AM
DiamondPro said:
Here's another pointless opinion I'd like to see removed. You wouldn't even be in this discussion had you not followed me in here like you do everywhere I go. Then you reply over and over spreading your biased against Sprint. If you would not rely on Sprint's Iden network during emergency's you obviously are not looking for the best option and most effective solution.


Gee, do you think this guy is a little paranoid about something? Paranoid

get over your problems and get on with posting something meaningful.
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trey1475

Jan 18, 2009, 3:05 AM
WiWavelength said:
Thanks for sharing your worthless opinion. Nobody cares.

AJ

Uhmm it was just a joke. I guess it flew right past your dumbass head!
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jrfdsf

Jan 19, 2009, 12:52 PM
trey1475 said:
Uhhhm.... Sprint is the last network I'd want to rely on during an emergency. Lol at Sprint trying to get their bailout package on the sly. We up to ya games sprint.

The thing is, it won't be YOU personally who would be relying on the network, it would be first responders and emergency personnel.

Sprint has a proven track record of quickly and efficiently responding to disasters, as well as providing a network that still works when others don't (i.e. Katrina, 911).
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 1:44 PM
jrfdsf said:


The thing is, it won't be YOU personally who would be relying on the network, it would be first responders and emergency personnel.

Sprint has a proven track record of quickly and efficiently responding to disasters, as well as providing a network that still works when others don't (i.e. Katrina, 911).


Others have proven you wrong already.
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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 4:05 PM
Yet another phrase you use often to sway opinions and discredit others.

Often with little proof to back it up.
Is it even possible for you not to post useless information???
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 4:19 PM
DiamondPro said:
Yet another phrase you use often to sway opinions and discredit others.

Often with little proof to back it up.
Is it even possible for you not to post useless information???


For you anything said that goes against Sprint is in your eyes "Yet another phrase you use often to sway opinions and discredit others."

There is no greater fanboy than you with Sprint Laughing
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DiamondPro

Jan 19, 2009, 4:26 PM
That didn't even make since... but that does not surprise me coming from u Eh?

There is no greater fan boi than you for Verizon Laughing

But none of are devices are crippled and over priced.
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 19, 2009, 4:45 PM
DiamondPro said:
That didn't even make since... but that does not surprise me coming from u Eh?

There is no greater fan boi than you for Verizon Laughing

But none of are devices are crippled and over priced.


And this has what to do with the original topic? Shocked

Going after me and singling me out on your day off from school and then turning around and complaining that people like me follow you?

Please go on...
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