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Nokia Bringing E63 To US

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"with support for US 3G networks"

johnkzin

Jan 8, 2009, 1:33 PM
Can I quote you on that (that it has T-Mobile 3G)?
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Byrd

Jan 8, 2009, 2:03 PM
I agree wit that and i often ask myself why they never make a phone that support our 3g bands but its a diff kind soo i guess no one has intrest in using that frequency. Guess they love the att bands
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NokiaGoth

Jan 8, 2009, 2:41 PM
T-mobile is supposed to be 3g this year finally.




NokiaGoth Twisted Evil
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johnkzin

Jan 8, 2009, 4:40 PM
T-Mobile has been 3G since Sept.
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Jayshmay

Jan 12, 2009, 5:31 AM
How is it you say you are a Nokia fan, and you don't own Nokia's flagship handset??? I'm speaking of the N95-3 of course!

I am yet to figure out how I am going to pay for it, but I do intend to get the beast of a phone the N97-NAM when it comes out sometime in the next 6 months.
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Omagus

Jan 8, 2009, 4:00 PM
They love whichever company can help them sell more units. Right now, that's AT&T.
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japhy

Jan 8, 2009, 4:31 PM
When a phone supports "U.S." 3G, it also supports Canadian 3G, and there's no AWS band on any Canadian carriers. Nokia is positioning the device to sell as many units as possible, so they'll want a device which appeals to the larger number of users. Thus: it's compatible with AT&T 3G as well as Rogers. Not a lot more customers, but certainly much more than if they just had AWS 3G for TMobile only.

As side note, I'm not sure why they don't produce more phones that are quadband GSM/triband HSPA (850/1900/2100), as so many other manufacturers seem to be doing, but they're the #1 phone seller in the world, so they've got to have some reason (possibly related to chip production costs).
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johnkzin

Jan 8, 2009, 4:45 PM
So, you're justifying "US 3G" because... it includes Canada? That's a bit of a stretch. It might help make "North America 3G" (and thus NAM 3G) more understandable, but it means nothing to "US 3G".

US 3G no longer means "850/1900/2100". It now includes 1700. Technology changes, and changes quickly. The people who market and speak about technology need to keep up or retire.

If they mean "AT&T/Rogers", then they should say that.

If they say "US 3G", then they shouldn't just be speaking about one of our two WCDMA carriers.
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japhy

Jan 9, 2009, 11:15 AM
johnkzin said:
US 3G no longer means "850/1900/2100". It now includes 1700.

If they say "US 3G", then they shouldn't just be speaking about one of our two WCDMA carriers.



US 3G has been industry shorthand for "850/1900" since 2005. At that time there was 1 carrier (Cingular/AT&T) with UMTS 3G, and since 2006 (I believe), Rogers has had 3G as well.

The AWS 3G band has been active about a year, with nowhere near the coverage or customer base (considering there is one UMTS 1700 carrier). Eventually, the phrase "US 3G" may include 1700, but realistically, by that time 4G will be up & running.
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Versed

Jan 11, 2009, 9:00 AM
850/1900 umts is also used in Latin America.
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thom06

Jan 8, 2009, 10:05 PM
What is with Nokia and not bringing some of their "good" phones over to the CDMA side instead of that dumb phone crap that doesn't even have S40. I realize Verizon is very picky with their devices, but I want to see an S60 device that I can actually use! There are huge swaths of the country uncovered by GSM, but blessed with Verizon and Alltel 3G. Why not develop a great S60 phone for the soon to be largest US carrier and 10th largest carrier in the world...yes CDMA might not have a UMB future, but it's here to stay...for QUITE a while. If they really want the US market Nokia simply CANNOT ignore CDMA forever, please less dumb phones!
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japhy

Jan 9, 2009, 11:23 AM
Given their history, Verizon would never allow an S60 device. It's been mentioned many times that Nokia is far less willing to bend to the will of the carriers in terms of hardware & software modification/neutering, and Verizon is the most demanding in that area. Nokia is the #1 phone maker in the world, so they can afford to ignore 1 carrier in one country, regardless of the size of that country.

Likewise, Verizon will soon be the biggest carrier in the biggest market, with established relationships with all phone makers, so they can easily afford to focus on certain types of devices/software platforms that they want to & exclude any they like.

So yeah. . . tough cookies for VZW people who like S60. Sorry!
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Jayshmay

Jan 12, 2009, 5:49 AM
I'm not with Verizon, so I get to carry an N95-3, and I love, love my phone! ! !

Thus is the benefit of not being with Verizon!
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Versed

Jan 11, 2009, 9:06 AM
I don't understand why no S60 development for cdma, even though I use gsm.

As far as large swaths, don't believe your own rhetoric, yes there are areas, but not large areas.
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